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How Should the Basketball "Topics" Be Arranged?

Knicks, NBA, College
- 3 (50%)
Knicks, Other Basketball
- 0 (0%)
NBA, College
- 1 (16.7%)
Basketball
- 0 (0%)
Leave it as it is
- 2 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 6

Voting closed: August 30, 2020, 02:57:14 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13800 on: October 19, 2020, 11:40:18 AM »

I disagree that Knicks need an overhaul

We have 3 starters locked in and several options to retain bench talent.

We could fly as is with DSJ and Knox starting, give them a chance to blossom - and potentially win 32-34 games

But I do expect upgrades in FA - and who knows what the #8 or higher will do to affect the overall strength of the team.

Will Frank take the step up in PER that he needs to off the pine? 

Who leads, other than the coaching staff?  Yet to be determined.

OPTIMISM for new regime.

I feel the same way.  I think the team is already close to being a playoff team but I do think the roster will get a major overhaul.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13801 on: October 19, 2020, 11:45:52 AM »

Personally, I don't even see picking 1 or 2 to be that desirable. 


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« Reply #13802 on: October 19, 2020, 11:48:33 AM »

I disagree that Knicks need an overhaul

We have 3 starters locked in and several options to retain bench talent.

We could fly as is with DSJ and Knox starting, give them a chance to blossom - and potentially win 32-34 games

But I do expect upgrades in FA - and who knows what the #8 or higher will do to affect the overall strength of the team.

Will Frank take the step up in PER that he needs to off the pine? 

Who leads, other than the coaching staff?  Yet to be determined.

OPTIMISM for new regime.

I feel the same way.  I think the team is already close to being a playoff team but I do think the roster will get a major overhaul.

NBA Radio analyst this week squawked how "if you are New York, you DO NOT WANT TO BE NUMBER 8 IN THE EAST!"

Funny.

Yes.  I take a series with MIL, TOR or NJ - surely.

Progress.

And if we did accomplish this, this would mean that either some of our current youth and/or some additions turned out well - which again would signal optimism for the management team
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« Reply #13803 on: October 19, 2020, 06:21:06 PM »

Personally, I don't even see picking 1 or 2 to be that desirable. 


heh      lol





Les, you need to say something.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13804 on: October 19, 2020, 08:06:22 PM »

Im good with Quickley at 27 if we go big or wing at 8.

Weve got a month for Thibs to continue to evaluate the commitment and potential of the players we have on hand.

Id be comfortable heading out the gate with Mitch, Randle, Wooten and some other big coming out the gate, assuming the other big is pretty good. The same can be said for the guards. Were not hamstringing Thibs and have room to develop if we keep the ones we have or can retain.

The fact that we have a decent haul of picks, cap money, and flexibility with slots makes any clamor for a big big move more hype than good sense unless the terms are very favorable to us.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13805 on: October 19, 2020, 10:19:32 PM »


The fact that we have a decent haul of picks, cap money, and flexibility with slots makes any clamor for a big big move more hype than good sense unless the terms are very favorable to us.

I read a blog the other day that Leon Rose was "desperate to make the knicks relevant" fueling the interest in a trade for CP3 or Westbrook.
I hope the writer was just desperate to meet a deadline and making stuff up.

As you say, there's no hurry.  Be patient and wait for the right use of the picks and cap room. 

In the past the Knicks have shown as much patience as a virgin in a bordello.
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« Reply #13806 on: October 19, 2020, 10:56:58 PM »

Les, you need to say something.

lol, OK. I say...I think kiid is probably next!

He Built a Trump Statue and Worshiped It. Then He Collapsed.
Bussa Krishna, a farmer who called President Trump his god, stopped eating after Mr. Trump became infected with the coronavirus, his family said. He died on Sunday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/world/asia/india-trump-fan-dies.html?smid=em-share
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Ill say
« Reply #13807 on: October 20, 2020, 12:39:43 AM »

Les, you need to say something.

lol, OK. I say...I think kiid is probably next!

He Built a Trump Statue and Worshiped It. Then He Collapsed.
Bussa Krishna, a farmer who called President Trump his god, stopped eating after Mr. Trump became infected with the coronavirus, his family said. He died on Sunday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/world/asia/india-trump-fan-dies.html?smid=em-share



Well, Ill say, Trumptin da god looks nice and trim and ...

HAS BIG HANDS! (I mean sorta, comparatively speakin, u know, to reality)
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« Reply #13808 on: October 20, 2020, 11:21:04 AM »

Personally, I don't even see picking 1 or 2 to be that desirable. 


heh      lol

Landing at one or two is desirable but trading into one or two requires some thought.

One and two are expensive buys.

The history of one and twos is schizophrenic.  High reward or historical fails - little in between.

5 -10 more inexpensive, more likely to contribute, lower expectations 
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« Reply #13809 on: October 20, 2020, 04:19:51 PM »

Personally, I don't even see picking 1 or 2 to be that desirable. 


heh      lol

Landing at one or two is desirable but trading into one or two requires some thought.

One and two are expensive buys.

The history of one and twos is schizophrenic.  High reward or historical fails - little in between.

5 -10 more inexpensive, more likely to contribute, lower expectations

You can fail at any pick.  The downside of an 8 pick failing out of the league is the same downside for a 2 pick. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13810 on: October 20, 2020, 05:20:41 PM »

Agreeing with FWK00 and Kam, Im happy to avoid the top 2. I like Ball, Edwards, Ajdiva, & Okongwu, and Wiseman as immediate difference makers.

Skipping GS and Minny, Charlotte, Chicago, and Cleveland round out the top 5. I dont have a deal to make for Chicago, but Charlotte and Cleveland seem to have potentially plausible trades to propose.

Charlotte gets #8, #27, right to swap picks with the 2023 Dallas pick, whenever it materializes with their closest lower pick in the same round if they have one, DSJ and any of our team option guys. We get #3 and Rozier.


Cleveland gets the #8, the pick in the 30s, right to swap picks with the 2023 Dallas pick, whenever it materializes with their closest lower pick in the same round if they have one, and Reggie Bullock. We get #5 and Dante Exum.

Any more than that, Id be reluctant to trade up from #8.

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« Reply #13811 on: October 20, 2020, 06:40:14 PM »

Only problem is Chicago and Charlotte are both trying to deal up, not down.

I guess we can try to deal with the one that fails.
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« Reply #13812 on: October 20, 2020, 08:02:57 PM »

That implies that neither is truly in love with who theyre seeing at 3 or 5. That would be great if true.

If neither or one succeeds in trading up, we have a potential deal. Both successfully trading up seems far less likely that both seriously wanting to.

Rose is in a strong position to demonstrate if hes good or bad in his current role in the coming months. He certainly has enough tools and options.
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« Reply #13813 on: October 20, 2020, 08:27:44 PM »

And you and your pals will JUDGE Leon Rose before the opening tip of the season, sadly
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« Reply #13814 on: October 20, 2020, 09:53:05 PM »

"- Pray the next 2 weeks for Hunter Biden -"
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Chamaco, here's our epitaph:



PS. Fook Leon Rose and Chamaco Cartero, both.
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