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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Stay with Dennis Jr, Jaq.  You will be rewarded.

Payton unfortunately shelved - he was the key to 30-32-34-36 wins.

[Kam]

DSJ
Frank
RJ
Knox
Mitchell

[chipstern]

DSJ
Frank
RJ
Knox
Mitchell

At the very least, would like to see THIS UNIT get significant minutes as an entity. 

I mean, while "tanking" is not the order of the day, seeing as how these puppies are all keepers, it is surely incumbent upon us to commit...TO COMMIT to some serious player development moving forward. 

Having said that...

Shooters?  We are sorely lacking. 

Also, seeing as how Fizz is presumably now operating in Hornacek/Woodson WIN-NowOrDie-Mode, this would surely impact lineups, not to mention evaluating the scrum of veterans he has been gifted from Mills & Perry, Custom Tailors. 

[Kam]

DSJ
Frank
RJ
Knox
Mitchell

At the very least, would like to see THIS UNIT get significant minutes as an entity. 

Shooters?  We are sorely lacking. 

Also, seeing as how Fizz is presumably now operating in Hornacek/Woodson WIN-NowOrDie-Mode, this would surely impact lineups, not to mention evaluating the scrum of veterans he has been gifted from Mills & Perry, Custom Tailors.

It would be a bold statement by Fizz to the front office....  screw your high priced free agents you signed this offseason.  If you're gonna blame me for the food i'll throw back the ingredients.

Of the free agents who has impressed?  Maybe Taj of late.  Anyone else?  Elf when health?  If you want to say Morris they didn't even have him in their plans they got lucky with Bullocks health situation.

What has PerryMills done outside of the last two drafts?  Hired Fiz, traded for DSJ, and wasted cap space with little to show.

[bodiddley]

DSJ
Frank
RJ
Knox
Mitchell

It would be a bold statement by Fizz to the front office....  screw your high priced free agents you signed this offseason.

The good old Middle Finger Starting 5.

The main question is whether Fizz would get fired immediately after doing it once, or if they'd give him a little more rope to get his neck comfortable.

Anyway, those are the main 5 we need to try to develop.
Along with Trier and Dot.

[bodiddley]

Btw, the Cavs game today represents the end of the easiest stretch of the schedule.  Competition gets tougher right soon.
Knix with 6th most difficult schedule going forward.

Next 10 straight are against presumed playoff teams.  Easiest 2 are BKY and SAS.  6 Home and 3 Road, but mostly against top teams.  Most brutal:  PHI-off-BOS-@MIL 3 games in 4 nights.

Assuming Knix take revenge at Home v. CLE to get to 4-10.  How many of the next 10 do the Knix W?  Could easily be something like 6-18 or 7-17 on Dec 11 facing a 4 game West Coast trip.

At that point, the tank is on, our vets can be traded in package deals starting Dec 15, and Fizz unlikely to make it past XMas.

One reason I thought the Knix could get to 28 or 29 W's (whichever I predicted) was mainly I thought Knix easy early schedule would allow a decent start (say 6-7 or 7-6) and provide enough confidence and early W's to keep the team afloat. 

[bodiddley]

Bbtw, looks like Knix 2nd round pick goes to PHI, but we get CHA's 2nd round pick (from trading Willy Hernancortez).  So that 1-pt CHA loss could hurt our 2nd round pick (especially as it gives CHA and Devonte Graham Cracker confidence).  That was B2B game-winning 3's for CHA.  Against NYK interests.

[chipstern]

Oh, our #2 pick for 2019, which WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST PICK OF THE SECOND ROUND. 

PHIL JACKSON, whose mammary that Masterbaiter, The Prophet Kiid, recently suckled  in shaming Knicks fans for their complicity in running him out of town. 

OWN IT

2014-15

Signings: Shannon Brown (waived), Lamar Odom (waived), Jason Smith, Ricky Ledo (waived), Langston Galloway

Trades

Tyson Chandler and Raymond Felton to Dallas for Jose Calderon, Samuel Dalembert, Wayne Ellington, Shane Larkin, and two second-round picks (Cleanthony Early and Thanasis Antetokounmpo)

Wayne Ellington and Jeremy Tyler to Sacramento for Quincy Acy and Travis Outlaw

Travis Outlaw, 2019 second-round pick and swap rights on 2018 second-rounder to Philadelphia for Arnett Moultrie

Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith to Cleveland for Lance Thomas (via OKC), Lou Amundson, Alex Kirk and Cavs’ 2019 second-round pick

Pablo Prigioni to Houston for Alexey Shved, 2017 second-round pick (Ognjen Jaramaz) and 2019 second-round pick

Drafted: Cleanthony Early (No. 34) and Thanasis Antetokounmpo (No. 51)

2015-16

Signings: Derrick Williams (two years, $10 million), Arron Afflalo (two years, $16 million), Robin Lopez (four years, $54 million), Kevin Seraphin, Tony Wroten (never played), Jimmer Fredette (10-day contract)

Trades

Tim Hardaway Jr. to Atlanta for No. 19 pick in 2015 (Jerian Grant)

2020 and 2021 second-round picks to Philadelphia for Willy Hernangomez

Swap rights on 2019 second-round pick to Orlando for Kyle O’Quinn

Drafted: Kristaps Porzingis (No. 4)

2016-17

Signings: Joakim Noah (four years, $72 million), Courtney Lee (four years, $48 million), Lance Thomas (four years, $27 million), Brandon Jennings (one year, $5 million — waived midseason), Sasha Vujacic, Mindaugas Kuzminskas, Marshall Plumlee, Maurice Ndour, Ron Baker, Chasson Randle (midseason)

Trade: Jose Calderon, Jerian Grant, and Robin Lopez to Chicago for Derrick Rose and Justin Holiday

2017-18

Drafted: Frank Ntilikina No. 8 in 2017, Damyean Dotson, No. 44 and Ognjen Jaramaz No. 58

Overall Grade?

You tell me...and let's not forget the Carmelo Anthony contract, and destroying his trade value on the way out the door, with the assistance of Phil's personal Lavrentiy Beria, Charley Rosen. 

[bodiddley]

Wayne Ellington and Jeremy Tyler to Sacramento for Quincy Acy and Travis Outlaw

Travis Outlaw, 2019 second-round pick and swap rights on 2018 second-rounder to Philadelphia for Arnett Moultrie

So we lost our 2nd round pick this year (likely 30-35) to ditch Outlaw's contract?
I vaguely recall that minor bit of failure.
Nice gift for PHI.

Of course this year's Knix could have taken on an unwanted contract or two in exchange for future draft picks, as ATL did with Crabbeapple.  Instead of splurging on PF vets.

[chipstern]

Wayne Ellington and Jeremy Tyler to Sacramento for Quincy Acy and Travis Outlaw

Travis Outlaw, 2019 second-round pick and swap rights on 2018 second-rounder to Philadelphia for Arnett Moultrie

So we lost our 2nd round pick this year (likely 30-35) to ditch Outlaw's contract?
I vaguely recall that minor bit of failure.
Nice gift for PHI.

Of course this year's Knix could have taken on an unwanted contract or two in exchange for future draft picks, as ATL did with Crabbeapple.  Instead of splurging on PF vets.

Point taken. 

However, kind of hard to imagine the Knicks, NOR KNICKS FANS, committing to yet another purposeful Tank Season, though we may nevertheless be headed in that direction. 

Chandler Parsons  $25,102,512
Evan Turner          $18,606,556
Allen Crabbe         $18,500,000
Alex Len                 $4,160,000

Atlanta's expiring contracts come the summer of 2020. 

[bodiddley]

Not sure exactly how to evaluate the Crabbe salary dump:

Crabbe traded by the Brooklyn Nets with Nickeil Alexander-Walker and a 2020 1st round draft pick to the Atlanta Hawks for Taurean Prince and a 2021 2nd round draft pick. (top-14 protected)

Prince is a useful player, but probably wouldn't merit a 1st on his own.  But even just the Nets #17 pick this year was pretty good.
ATL drafted SG N Alexander-Walker (and traded him to move up to get DeAndre Hunter).
But Goga Bitadze was #18
Thybule #20
Brandon Clarke #21
Grant Williams  #22

So that was a nice section of the draft.
I'd take Crabbe and Clarke instead of Bollocks and Portis.

And Nets pick next year could be higher than #17.
Though likely we'd just get one 1st and a 2nd for Crabbe (?)

[bodiddley]

The Cavs, playing on the second night of a back-to-back, will be without two of their best bigs tonight both Kevin Love (back) and Larry Nance (thumb) have been ruled out vs. the Knicks

Things stacked in Knix favor.
Guard the damn 3-point line.
Play up on their guards and make them drive into Mitch & Taj.

Also should be a chance for Randle to feast down low, and PnR lobs to Mitch.

[chipstern]

Salman Ali: The Rockets announced that the team has waived forward Ryan Anderson. – via Twitter SalmanAliNBA

Ryan Anderson   $2,564,753 [2019-2020]

2018-2019 Totals

3-Pt %: .225
FG %:   .304

OWN IT

[kiidcarter8]

DSJ
Frank
RJ
Knox
Mitchell

How about make that 3/4/5 your second unit?

Start DSJ, Wayne/Damean, Marcus, Bobby, Taj

[kiidcarter8]

Salman Ali: The Rockets announced that the team has waived forward Ryan Anderson. – via Twitter SalmanAliNBA

Ryan Anderson   $2,564,753 [2019-2020]

2018-2019 Totals

3-Pt %: .225
FG %:   .304

OWN IT

I regret that Ryan's inconsequential garbage time wasnt more productive

heh

Sad only in that he wont be going to the Finals with JH and Austin this year