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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9375 on: December 12, 2019, 11:50:07 PM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on December 12, 2019, 06:48:03 PM
Yanks had the team this year.  Still cant believe they faltered.
no such thing as a sure thing or even a close to sure thing...

surprising to see plain vanilla platitudes about the notion that the NBA is stronger with a strong Knicks team...they haven't for 20 years and going...and the NBA exploded...what they need to do now is shorten the season and you know that will never happen...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9376 on: December 13, 2019, 12:35:06 AM »
Quote from: Jack Straw on December 12, 2019, 11:50:07 PM
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on December 12, 2019, 06:48:03 PM
Yanks had the team this year.  Still cant believe they faltered.
no such thing as a sure thing or even a close to sure thing...

surprising to see plain vanilla platitudes about the notion that the NBA is stronger with a strong Knicks team...they haven't for 20 years and going...and the NBA exploded...what they need to do now is shorten the season and you know that will never happen...

You see the explosion with hindsight but you don't see how much bigger the explosion could be.

The NBA exploded when it had star players in big markets. 
LA and Boston, then Detroit, Chicago, New York and Houston.
Those Spurs teams, those Larry Brown Pistons... that was a downturn.
Then... Lakers started winning again, Boston started winning again.
LeBron had to team up with superfriends etc...

It wont be great for the NBA to have the Bucks vs Nuggets in the finals as it would be if it had Lakers/Celts or Lakers/Philadelphia

Knicks are terrible and the NBA is what it is today... if the Knicks were GREAT the NBA could be bigger.

That is all.

So in that explosive 20 year period you had big markets prospering.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9377 on: December 13, 2019, 12:41:55 AM »
It's entirely possible that you're wrong.
And that the NBA would have exploded moreso with a contending Knick team in the mix. Having a crummy team in the major media market has been an NBA weakness for two decades now.  With the NBA flourishing despite that injury.   [Next team up!]  The NBA and players all know that.
Having a weak sister in NY is bad for the NBA.

The very fact that NYK has been stinky for 2 decades means the next time the Knix revive and truly contend, it will be huger than huge.  Since NY fans are so desperate for a contender.

Lastly, you hear players and coaches all the time saying the same sort of thing Kerr said.  KD just the other day said that he considered NYK and that the next star who brings NY to contention will be hyper-celebrated.
Players still talk about MSG as the Mecca.  Guys love to perform well in NYC, as their exploits get extra hype.  It's still NY, NY.  There's still Madison Ave, etc.  Trump.  Bloomberg.  Even Hillary.  It's a NY moment without the Knickers. . .
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9378 on: December 13, 2019, 01:02:24 PM »
Yawn.....

Isnt there a game tonight?

Payton to start?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9379 on: December 13, 2019, 01:36:41 PM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on December 13, 2019, 01:02:24 PM

Payton to start?

Miller has said he likes the starts Frank has been getting the team off to.
So for now i expect Frank to start and Payton to finish.
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Is JD John Daly?
« Reply #9380 on: December 13, 2019, 01:37:57 PM »
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Re: Is JD John Daly?
« Reply #9381 on: December 13, 2019, 02:03:03 PM »
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Re: Is JD John Daly?
« Reply #9382 on: December 13, 2019, 02:09:08 PM »
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Quote from: Kam on December 13, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
https://awfulannouncing.com/twitter/johnathan-daly-knicks-james-dolan.html

Wow.

That's funny shit.

So Dolan apparently wanted Donovan Mitchell and thinks he knows Basketball and should be the GM.

I'm all for Dolan coaching this team.
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Re: Is JD John Daly?
« Reply #9383 on: December 13, 2019, 02:59:25 PM »
Quote from: Kam on December 13, 2019, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: elephant on December 13, 2019, 02:03:03 PM
Quote from: Kam on December 13, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
https://awfulannouncing.com/twitter/johnathan-daly-knicks-james-dolan.html

Wow.

That's funny shit.

So Dolan apparently wanted Donovan Mitchell and thinks he knows Basketball and should be the GM.

I'm all for Dolan coaching this team.

And why not, indeed? 

Frank Isola
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Portland 20-year-old rookie Anfernee Simons went 5 for 9 with 16 points. The Knicks last three lottery picks - Frank Ntilikina, Kevin Knox & RJ Barrett - went a combined 3 for 21 with 9 points.


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If it was up to James Dolan, Donovan Mitchell would be a New York Knick and Ntilikina would be on the streets in France. GM Mills butchered the pick.

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Is it worth mentioning that FRANK was NOT a Mills pick, but rather, a Phil Jackson/Clarence Gains pick on PHUL'S WAY OUT THE DOOR? 

Not of a piece with Affirmative Ed Tapscott passing on Ron Artest to take Frederick Weis on HIS WAY OUT THE DOOR, but well...



Comforting to know how well Jimmy The Jizz and Papa Ball should get along. 
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Re: Is JD John Daly?
« Reply #9384 on: December 13, 2019, 03:24:46 PM »
Quote from: Kam on December 13, 2019, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: elephant on December 13, 2019, 02:03:03 PM
Quote from: Kam on December 13, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
https://awfulannouncing.com/twitter/johnathan-daly-knicks-james-dolan.html

Wow.

That's funny shit.

So Dolan apparently wanted Donovan Mitchell and thinks he knows Basketball and should be the GM.

I'm all for Dolan coaching this team.

The entertainment value of that alone would be incredible.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9385 on: December 13, 2019, 03:30:50 PM »
It's not Dolan's fault, it's those idiots he hired ...

Funny.
Hopefully it is Dolan and Mills is soon to be gone.

Problem is this about-to-open trade season is pretty important for Los Knickeroos.

Simons and DJ Wilson are two of my trade targets.
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« Reply #9386 on: December 13, 2019, 03:39:05 PM »
Worth pointing out that among both our fans and the press...

That the notion of trading our best player from a scoring, defense, FT/3-Point Shooting and LEADERSHIP perspective, our one undeniable FA home run, has so much traction. 

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contract year
« Reply #9387 on: December 13, 2019, 03:45:27 PM »
So you're going to re-sign him into his 30's to go with our not-ready-yet yute?

Morris is our best trade asset and doesn't match our time frame.
If you're going to keep Morris, I'd move Randle, but his value is lower.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9388 on: December 13, 2019, 04:16:00 PM »
Thad is unhappy in Chicago, Gafford is good.

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7256019

Swap Thaddeus Young and Luke Kornet for Taj Gibson and Dennis Smith. They could take Trier instead if they prefer.

Miller would get a floor stretching big he’s familiar with. We’d get a really smart ball handling combo forward who can teach Knox and Randle more things they need to know than Taj can. I’m happier with Portis doing Taj things than I am with Taj doing them.

Taj going back to Chicago to replace a disgruntled Thad Young is a good story for them and if they want to cheap out they don’t have to pick up his contract next year.

It thins our guard heard by either a Smith Jr. or a Trier and gets us a fairly functional stretch five back in the process.
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Re: contract year
« Reply #9389 on: December 13, 2019, 04:24:52 PM »
Quote from: bodiddley on December 13, 2019, 03:45:27 PM
So you're going to re-sign him into his 30's to go with our not-ready-yet yute?

Morris is our best trade asset and doesn't match our time frame.
If you're going to keep Morris, I'd move Randle, but his value is lower.

That logic eludes me. 

Our time frame?

How about talent...
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