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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[Kam]

Speaking of Ex-Kentucky wildcats, William C. Stein has been traded to the Mavs

[FWK00]

Portis at C
Randle at PF
Morris at SF

with Barrett and Payton

Any other lineup you trot out will be worse offensively.
Maybe better defensive lineups out there, but if you want to score you play Portis and reap the rewards of spacing.

https://twitter.com/dwsmall8/status/1220782160367497217

[FWK00]

No Frank's misses really aren't harmful.  He's a great kid too.   
On another note, all the yoga we must all be doing to have our backs be able to bend this way is crazy, huh?

You have to look at possessions.  In the Lake game, Franc went 0-8, but of his first 5 misses (I only saw/recall 6 of his FG's -- didn't see the 4Q), Knix got the 0-board twice and twice more tipped the ball once or twice and almost resumed possession.

Sometimes a missed shot is like a pass, if you draw a double team, miss a short shot and the unguarded teammate cleans it right up.  That would be a quality miss, a quality possession.  I believe somebody called those Kobe Assists. 

The opposite of that is when you take a terrible shot that leads to your opponents getting an easy fast break bucket.  Like say, Randle launching a contested 3 with LeBJ tattooed on him, the straight-on 3 clanking the backboard first then the rim then landing in Brow's hands and shortly thereafter LBJ's for an easy dunk, as he leaked out immediately after the contest, knowing it was a shit shot.

Unless I have an easy open shot, I'm always cognizant of whether there's a teammate underneath who can rebound.  And some games even when I'm missing 3's, I'll keep shooting them if my guys are getting the rebound (and especially if boarding and scoring).  It's the possessions that matter.

4 of Franc's first 5 misses were almost continued Knick possessions, two were.  It's not like Franc super-compromised the D, but we have good rebounders and guys were down low in position to fight for the carom.  So those turned out to be pretty good possessions despite the Franc misses.  Hell, maybe the Lakes Bigs just weren't expecting Franc to shoot so much.  But we had chances to get a 2nd shot, which is good.

I should add all 5 of those were reasonable shots that didn't go in.
If I'm Frankity-Franc and I miss 5 in a row, but the Knix keep two of those possessions alive, and almost corral two more misses, I'm feeling fine about those possessions and willing to shoot more.  It's a team game.  And if you're teammates can clean up your misses, those are solid possessions.

I didn't go back and analyze the Franc misses to see why we were contesting those rebounds so well.  But we were, and it's possessions that count not shooting % or who's putting the ball int he basket (or how) .  I found Julius' 0-4 on 3's more troubling than Franc's 0-8 FG, because of the context and use of possession.  Lakes did a good job of bottling up Julius, leading to turnovers and a number of last-second passes after he went up in the air or made a spin move to nowhere.

Jr. Smith came in and lost his man on his first defensive assignment, then after a few passes got to his guy and got blown past.  Yikes.  Two different defensive miscues on his very first play.

We need to trade for Alex Caruso, so we can run Robinson-Caruso PnR's ...

Great observations.  Small sample size and 0-8 is never a good thing but small consolation none the less.

[lesterluv]

Very pleasing start...one of the best of the season. Give it up to Julius for two big early blocks.

*and impressively, the second unit holding onto the lead so far despite spectacular stinkiness from Knox...

[Kam]

Portis at C
Randle at PF
Morris at SF

with Barrett and Payton

Any other lineup you trot out will be worse offensively.
Maybe better defensive lineups out there, but if you want to score you play Portis and reap the rewards of spacing.

https://twitter.com/dwsmall8/status/1220782160367497217

I'm not trying to be a smartass but what is a 3man line-up?   It's 5 on 5.

[FWK00]

Portis at C
Randle at PF
Morris at SF

with Barrett and Payton

Any other lineup you trot out will be worse offensively.
Maybe better defensive lineups out there, but if you want to score you play Portis and reap the rewards of spacing.

https://twitter.com/dwsmall8/status/1220782160367497217

I'm not trying to be a smartass but what is a 3man line-up?   It's 5 on 5.

It's not a three man lineup, its the players who are the common denominator regardless of the players in the other two positions.  The fact that these three keep showing up is an interesting metric that indicates chemistry rather than empty personal statistics.

I'm not even trying to rattle your arguments - simply trying to provide material as to why some of us feel so strongly about Frankie and Dotson.  MR is a no-brainer.

[kiidcarter8]

Julius is a throwback.  A bullish scoring PF.  But with limited versatility. He's not multi-positional, not switchable, doesn't protect the rim, isn't stretching the floor.


Too many words

[kiidcarter8]

Speaking of Ex-Kentucky wildcats, William C. Stein has been traded to the Mavs

I loved him in Bad News Bears

[bodiddley]

Speaking of Ex-Kentucky wildcats, William C. Stein has been traded to the Mavs

Geez, only cost them a late 2nd rounder (Utah's).  Picks below 45 are pretty marginal.
WCS is Big, 26, making just $2M.
Great cheap pickup for DAL.

I wonder why POR didn't try to get WCS for a 2nd rounder.  They could use a backup defensive PF.

So essentially GS decided to keep Marquise Chriss and gave away their Willie.

What a mess SACto is.
Kiid's right, they totally blew the chance to add Luka the Great.
Dedmon wants out.  Giles buried. Bogdanovich being underused and likely will leave as an FA.  Hield got his contract and is underperforming.  Fox has been injured.   They didn't develop WCS and seem to be failing with Giles as well.

3-15 lately.  Anything going right out there?
Disorganized team.  Bog is going to be available.  He should be on our radar along with Giles.  Good teams raid badly run teams ...

[kiidcarter8]

What would NY do with Bogdon or Giles?

In Vlade/Walton's defense Kings players have missed quire a few games.  DEPTH, like with many teams, seems a problem

[kiidcarter8]

SAC has 10 losses by 1-4 points

[bodiddley]

Knix need shooters.
Bogdan would start at SG for us. 
Guy can shoot and handle.

Giles would be a development Big.
A different body than Mitch.
Also insurance in case the League figures out Mitch more than Mitch figures out the League.

[kiidcarter8]

They are both free agents

[kiidcarter8]

My bad - maybe you meant this summer

[kiidcarter8]

Celtics didnt miss Tatum yesterday

JT has been hot.

Fultz and Ball as well

Markell 14-6-5 over ten games and at 46/75 shooting for season

Ball the lesser shooter but scorching it at 13-9-8 for last ten.