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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Knicks did all the right things this week.  Reflected in their record on and off the court.

No. The surplus of guards is not an advantage to player development.

Do you really want Smith taking Frank's time?

yes

they are both assets

[kiidcarter8]

Program note -

Duke vs UNC - that's Tre Jones and Vernon Carey vs Cole Anthony

Pre-Knicks    6 pm  ESPN

At 10 its Killian Tillie vs Malik Fitts (Zags vs St Marys)

Fitts is a 6-8 redshirt junior (22 already) and shoots 48/42/78

Tillie, a senior from France is at 54/44/74 career - 6-10 - nice stretch 4

I like looking for experience in our second rounders this year (this duo, T Jones, Cassius Winston, Diakite of Virginia)

[kiidcarter8]

Watch out for "bust" Thon Maker tonight.  Took over effectively for Drummond last night @OKC (7-12, 2-5, 3-5, 19-7-2-1) before fouling out.  Played 33 minutes.

[Kam]

Knicks did all the right things this week.  Reflected in their record on and off the court.

No. The surplus of guards is not an advantage to player development.

Do you really want Smith taking Frank's time?

I'm not stuck on the "Frank or die" trip a lotta knick fans are on.  Dennis has his own potential too. Elfrid is playing great.  Let's not play favorites.

[Kam]

It was a terrific trade for GS.  They got a guy (former #1 blah blah blah) who is clearly a better fit than Russell would be when Steph and Klay both return.  Wiggins is no KD, but with the Splash Bros, Draymond, and Wiggy they're loaded once more.  Oh yeah, they also get a probably lotto pick.  Amazing.    KD was going to leave for nothing, and they get a lotto pick and Wiggins out of it.

KD?

KD -> DLo -> Wiggins

[Kam]

Knicks did all the right things this week.  Reflected in their record on and off the court.

No. The surplus of guards is not an advantage to player development.

Do you really want Smith taking Frank's time?

yes

they are both assets

Right.

Did you want Malik Monk taking Frank's time?  That was who Dennis was rumored to be traded for. 

[Kam]

Would we have been allowed to extend and trade him? 

No.  We didn't have that option. 

[Kam]

Buyout season has begun.   At least in CHA.

Marvelous Williams bought out,  plans to sign with MIL assuming nobody claims him.   MIL dropping Bender for the roster spot.  Great cheap vet pickup.

MKG bought out.   DAL his likely landing spot.
Still a good defender.

I read somewhere that NYK might buyout Duke Ellington.   But unclear why.

Why not?

Seems decision has been made on his team option.

Might be wiser to keep his team option in case we want to package him and portis for someone in the offseason.

[Kam]

Oh woe be fallen Knicks faithful fear not! Tis I, Positive Pussy Prime!

[elephant]

We survived the Smith-Barrett combo in the 4th.

I thought coach brought back Payton and Randall too late (down seven with 6 minutes or something). I was wrong. They came through big. Payton genuinely running the offense at the end. I know Detroit sucks, but so do we, and it was great seeing this level of competence and control on both ends.

Ellington and Mitch with strong games.

[kiidcarter8]

Knicks did all the right things this week.  Reflected in their record on and off the court.

No. The surplus of guards is not an advantage to player development.

Do you really want Smith taking Frank's time?

yes

they are both assets

Right.

Did you want Malik Monk taking Frank's time?  That was who Dennis was rumored to be traded for.

You're asking me?

You have to pay better attention.  I am with Coach Cal, who said Monk would have been a great Knick

[Kam]

Knicks did all the right things this week.  Reflected in their record on and off the court.

No. The surplus of guards is not an advantage to player development.

Do you really want Smith taking Frank's time?

yes

they are both assets

Right.

Did you want Malik Monk taking Frank's time?  That was who Dennis was rumored to be traded for.

You're asking me?

You have to pay better attention.  I am with Coach Cal, who said Monk would have been a great Knick

I was asking elephant.    He seemed to want Dennis gone at all costs at the deadline.

[elephant]

Christ, how long do you run the experiment? It hasn't worked.

The Knicks were willing to trade Smith and Frank for talent, but they couldn't make the deal. So the issues are obvious.

I've criticized Frank's stagnation in the past, but much of that may have been a product of questionable coaching. The last couple of months has shown positive signs. Let's play the dude more and see what we've got. Weren't you criticizing the Knicks last year for undermining his confidence with inconsistent minutes?

Smith's best game in two years was the one he had against us before we traded him. For the last year, his poor play was ascribed to injuries or personal issues. How long do we keep saying that? Yeah, I would have preferred to forget the whole fucking Porzingis debacle and trade the man for someone else who might help the team more. That didn't happen. But I sure as shit hope that if his play doesn't improve, he sits.

[kiidcarter8]

Good game tonight - if erratic - 2 teams trying to get incrementally better

[Kam]

Christ, how long do you run the experiment? It hasn't worked.

The Knicks were willing to trade Smith and Frank for talent, but they couldn't make the deal. So the issues are obvious.

I've criticized Frank's stagnation in the past, but much of that may have been a product of questionable coaching. The last couple of months has shown positive signs. Let's play the dude more and see what we've got. Weren't you criticizing the Knicks last year for undermining his confidence with inconsistent minutes?

Smith's best game in two years was the one he had against us before we traded him. For the last year, his poor play was ascribed to injuries or personal issues. How long do we keep saying that? Yeah, I would have preferred to forget the whole fucking Porzingis debacle and trade the man for someone else who might help the team more. That didn't happen. But I sure as shit hope that if his play doesn't improve, he sits.

Knicks, according to rumor shopped, damn near every body on the roster.  I'm happy they didn't make a short-sighted deal and want to now develop these guys.  I liked/loved Elfrid and Frank backcourt experiment last game.  Steals galore.

I've criticized the knicks in the past for not playing Frank.  But he had all the opportunities this season and we did not win games with him.  Payton is playing several head and shoulders above Frank at the 1.   Frank at the 2 could be great.  Let's see more of that.