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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11430 on: March 10, 2020, 07:09:22 AM »
It was a separate trade indeed - with the Pelicans

ATL sent the 8 and 16, I think - who ended up being Jaxon Hayes and Nick Alex-Walker - and got the #4 pick Hunter.  Other things involved as well.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11431 on: March 10, 2020, 08:29:18 AM »
Some nice wheeling and dealing and drafting by ATL.

2019
Flipped  #8 (Jax Hayes) & #17 (NAW) for the #4 DeAndre Hunter

2018
Turned Luka into Trae and a next year 1st they used on Cam Reddish (#10 pick).  Also used a #19 pick they had from wherever for Huerter.

2017
John Collins #19.

They were a rock bottom depleted team.
Filled in their roster nicely.
Trae - Huerter -Reddish - Hunter - Collins in a 3 year period.

They also drafted DeVonte in the 2018 2nd round (#34) but flipped him for a next year 2nd.  Not that Trae & Graham are a viable backcourt, but DevGraham would be a strong bench microwave.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11432 on: March 10, 2020, 08:41:27 AM »
Final 16 games kick off with 3 Road games in 4 nights.
ATL on the back end of a Road B2B.

Then a 5 game sequence:
CHA  -  @ BOS  - GS  - LAC  - TOR
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A 3 game Road Trip
@ NO  - @ CHI  - @MEMf

3 at MSG:
MINN  -  MIA  - ORL

@ OKC  -  @ TOR
v. DET  -  @  MIN
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So 3 Road games against team at or about our Win total.
@ATL -  @CHI -  @MIN
MIN - GSW  - DET at Home.
2 other winnable games CHA & ORL at MSG.

Even split those 8 and lose to the 8 playoff teams, and a 4-12 finish would serve us well.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11433 on: March 10, 2020, 12:46:29 PM »
Quote from: bodiddley on March 10, 2020, 05:43:15 AM

Looks like whoever picked mid-20's will be closest.
Forget what i went with.
29 W's?

Will look for the prediction list when I have a chance.

Me 'n Carlos about to be knocked out by overachievement of all things.

But: I believe I had one or two contingency modifiers. Something like...

+ 5 if Knox averaged less than 10 mpg (not met)
+ 5 or +10 if F&kwhale fired by X-mas (met, thank god almighty, might put me back in the game, and still a source of daily joy)
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« Reply #11434 on: March 10, 2020, 12:51:43 PM »
Quote from: bodiddley on March 10, 2020, 05:41:46 AM

At this point I'd rather have the 2nd or 3rd worst record than the 6th (or 7th, Bulls just 21 W's).

Whereforewise, I'd start Mitch and Franc (or Jr. Smith) and Knox.
Smith - RJB - Knox - Randle - Mitch.
Elf and Taj, Hark and Portis as 2nd unit.
Hell, cna run 5 or 6 games with Portis starting and Randle sitting as well.

Only 16 games left.  Let's see what our pups can do.
Knox can use some long minute runs.
Same with Franc'n'Smith.

All in on development and game time for the yute.
W's be damned.
DET is going to be hard to slot under (since they excised their top players).  Hawks and Bulls trying to win games.
Just need to drop below CLE and MIN.

A Top 3 lottery slotting would be good.  Likely a Top 5 pick, and 7th at worst.  No reason to drop a couple slots down with meaningless wins secured by vets who won't be back.

All in for development, too, but really, don't worry about that lottery position and w/l's. Last year showed that clearly and the 7 & 8 teams will be happy as clams for a decade.

Silver won. Nobody's tanking ala Knicks' disgrace last year. (save for maybe the Pistons in their own way, late.). Good for the league. Good for the fans. Good for the teams. Good for the game. One really nice move.

Wherever we land there'll be a player and we gotta stick the pick.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11435 on: March 10, 2020, 02:24:27 PM »
Quote from: bodiddley on March 10, 2020, 08:29:18 AM
Some nice wheeling and dealing and drafting by ATL.

2019
Flipped  #8 (Jax Hayes) & #17 (NAW) for the #4 DeAndre Hunter

2018
Turned Luka into Trae and a next year 1st they used on Cam Reddish (#10 pick).  Also used a #19 pick they had from wherever for Huerter.

2017
John Collins #19.

They were a rock bottom depleted team.
Filled in their roster nicely.
Trae - Huerter -Reddish - Hunter - Collins in a 3 year period.

They also drafted DeVonte in the 2018 2nd round (#34) but flipped him for a next year 2nd.  Not that Trae & Graham are a viable backcourt, but DevGraham would be a strong bench microwave.


But....

not enough

Who will choose to play there?

Right now they may be looking at needing to deal Young to get their team really going (see Pelicans and AD - who are in better shape)

Young to Knicks in 2023?

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11436 on: March 10, 2020, 02:26:04 PM »
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« Reply #11437 on: March 10, 2020, 03:31:03 PM »
Why wouldn't anyone want to play there?
Atlanta is like the black capital of the nation.
Good weather too.

I forgot they added Capela.  A perfect move imo, as they need defense and a rim runner for Trae to PnR with.
Trae - Huerter - Hunter - Collins - Capela
Teague - Bembry - Reddish - Dedmon

That's a playoff team next year.
They just need experience, more time together, and fill in another role player or two.  They'll add a Top 10 pick this Summer.

I like the role payers they picked up the past few years.
Alex Len cheaply.  Vince as a wise oldhead.  Jabari as a trial.
They've shown some loyalty bringing back Teague and Deadman.

Seems like a well-run team poised to hit .500 next year, and be a playoff team every year.  An up and coming team with an exciting young player.
Don't know why players wouldn't want to sign up.  They could use a defensive SG and a backup PF.  They'll work out a deal with Collins.  At worst wait until RFA and match anything.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11438 on: March 10, 2020, 09:01:14 PM »
Two bad teams playing an oddball game ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11439 on: March 10, 2020, 10:17:22 PM »
Porzingis with another stinkus

THJ and Luka heroics not enough
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11440 on: March 10, 2020, 10:29:34 PM »
Quote from: bodiddley on March 10, 2020, 09:01:14 PM
Two bad teams playing an oddball game ...

Wait - we lost that game?

Too funny.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11441 on: March 11, 2020, 12:16:07 AM »
Randle with another giant pile of manure

Frank & Portis' heroics not enough

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« Reply #11442 on: March 11, 2020, 12:32:43 AM »
Julius played short minutes - just 11 shots

Good job by the bench
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« Reply #11443 on: March 11, 2020, 12:43:09 AM »
Lol, he played short minutes because he sucked so bad. Miller had to yank him (along with the other starters). Was ugly...
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« Reply #11444 on: March 11, 2020, 12:47:32 AM »
Randle would do a move or two and pass out.  Wasn't forcing shots.  Bryant sort of a body double and pestered him.  But Randle had midge Napier on him a few times and didn't do much.  Rare lackluster energy from Julius.  His rebounds reflect that.  He did all right when he just started taking open midrange shots instead of semi-bulling in.  Also fouled out, including a trio of 4Q fouls where he was a step late/slow.

20/10 game for Free-Franc.  Active and aggressive.

Bullington 44 mins combined.  Not a cameo for Dot.  Is he okay?
I'd rather see Dot out there than either of those two.  El-train won't be back.
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