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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14190 on: November 14, 2020, 04:02:28 PM »

Yes, works for me.

Look, this site is getting Dicey. I'd love to keep in touch with everyone.


As I've said before. leave an email address as a comment at knicksmecca.blogspot.com just in case... it ain't going anywhere til I'm gone... so there's that.

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« Reply #14191 on: November 14, 2020, 04:28:19 PM »

Yes, works for me.

Look, this site is getting Dicey. I'd love to keep in touch with everyone.


As I've said before. leave an email address as a comment at knicksmecca.blogspot.com just in case... it ain't going anywhere til I'm gone... so there's that.

This site isn't going anywhere, whether I step down as mod or not.

This was just a hiccup, barely even technical.

Did you get a note from me?

Thanks Josh. I really appreciate your efforts and hope you decide to stay as moderator.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14192 on: November 14, 2020, 05:58:19 PM »

Yay! We’re back!

Rose needs to keep Thibs on a leash. Youth, prospects, and a reasonable support group of vets while maintaining our flexibility going forward.

There are some stupidly bad ideas out there in the noisysphere we need to pass on. Let other teams make those mistakes or the ones who already have continue to live with them.
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« Reply #14193 on: November 14, 2020, 07:10:52 PM »

DSJ, Julius and one of Dallas first rounders

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RUUSSSSSSSSSSSELLLLLLLL......

[2023 #1]

Not sure Houston would bite, but that seems sensible and fair, even if my inclination is still to go slow.  But I suspect Thibs wants to come out of the gate with his foot to the pedal.   I believe it hinges on the draft.  If we stay at #8, if we have a shot at Haliburton, or, if Russell is on ice....???

1    Minnesota   Anthony Edwards   6-5   225   SG   Georgia   Fr.
2    Golden St.   James Wiseman   7-1   235   C   Memphis   Fr.
3    Charlotte   Onyeka Okongwu   6-9   235   PF/C   USC   Fr.
4    Chicago   LaMelo Ball   6-8   180   PG   USA   Intl.
5    Cleveland   Obi Toppin   6-9   220   PF   Dayton   So.
6    Atlanta   Patrick Williams   6-7   215   SF/PF   Florida St.   Fr.
7    Detroit   Isaac Okoro   6-6   215   SG/SF   Auburn   Fr.
8    New York   Tyrese Haliburton   6-5   185   PG   Iowa St.   So.
9    Washington   Deni Avdija   6-9   210   SF   Israel   Intl.
10    Phoenix   Killian Hayes   6-5   195   PG   France   Intl.
11    San Antonio   Devin Vassell   6-7   200   SG   Florida St.   So.
12    Sacramento   Saddiq Bey   6-8   215   SF   Villanova   So.
13    New Orleans   Kira Lewis   6-3   170   PG   Alabama   So.
14    *Boston   Aaron Nesmith

Think anyone related to Paul Silas would smack his lips over Randle. 

And I believe DSJ would benefit playing with Harden and Gordon, as it would open up driving lanes for him. 

Wake me when it happens. 

Why would I put my heart into this as opposed to CP3? Especially considering Westbrook is a double edged sword.  Alive with minuses and plusses. 

He is a mediocre three point shooter.  Though in his best season with OKC,  back in 2015-16, he got up to .343% [200-583], but sliding since. 

He is a high volume shooter. 

Purportedly a moody motherfucker. 

And he just turned 32.  Which is slightly more tenable than 35, even though his contract is a year longer and just as scary [41,44, 47]

Still, not so gray around the fringes. 

As the dominant ballhanlder his last four seasons in OKC, he averaged 10.5 assists a game.  And 6.0, 9.0, 9.2, 9.6 boards.

27.2 ppg, 7.9 reb, 7.0 assist last season with Houston. 

Not a leader?

If RW is your bell cow, as he would be in NYC, you better believe he would be a leader, by example. 

I suspect Thibs wants to play with pace, and RW surely ups the pace. 

I suspect Thibs wants someone to drive to the hoop and break down the D and open up deiving lanes and easier shots. 

I suspect Thibs wants someone who raises the level of intensity. 

Let's put it this way.

My son in law took me to a Charlotte-OKC game in 2018-2019. 

Hornets jumped on OKC.

In the second half, Wetbrook TOOK OVER. 

I've said this before, but it bear repeating. 

RW was like Barry Sanders in sneakers. 

When he pushed the ball up court, his intensity was palpable, let alone the sheer sound of his sneakers on the floor....bambambam...the Hornets defenders were on their heels.  He either finished himself, often with a +1, or kicked out to an open shooter. 

The chemistry between Westbrook and the Garden Faithful would be electrifying. 

And it had better be, given the guaranteed money involved. 

I believe RW would be inspired by the Garden and by being THE MAN. 

There is such a rain of BS and speculation busting out all over, any and all rumors needs be taken with a bag of salt. 

Again, I like Randle, but he seems like a placeholder.  His absence would leave a hole for sure, though perhaps an affordable FA might beckon. 

AGAIN, I am not a proponent of THE BIG SPLASH, but if Rose wants to roll that way, well...and have someone eating such an immense piece of the cap, if the price is only [ONLY], Julius, Dennis and the 2023 Dallas #1, well....
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14194 on: November 14, 2020, 07:13:30 PM »

Yes, works for me.

Look, this site is getting Dicey. I'd love to keep in touch with everyone.


As I've said before. leave an email address as a comment at knicksmecca.blogspot.com just in case... it ain't going anywhere til I'm gone... so there's that.


Can't see any recent comments at knicksmecca.  Is it that hard to navigate?

No. I simply haven't posted much.  You and everyone else are welcome to become authors there on the blog and I'll tidy up the links if you like.  It's very straightforward and I won't censor anything that isn't wholly inappropriate.

All of you might want to simply get established as authors as a backup plan.  Elba could evaporate suddenly.  Google OTOH is not going under in our lifetimes.

If you have suggestions, bring em on.  Covid has me homebound.
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« Reply #14195 on: November 14, 2020, 07:18:17 PM »

DSJ, Julius and one of Dallas first rounders

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RUUSSSSSSSSSSSELLLLLLLL......

[2023 #1]

Not sure Houston would bite, but that seems sensible and fair, even if my inclination is still to go slow.  But I suspect Thibs wants to come out of the gate with his foot to the pedal.   I believe it hinges on the draft.  If we stay at #8, if we have a shot at Haliburton, or, if Russell is on ice....???

1    Minnesota   Anthony Edwards   6-5   225   SG   Georgia   Fr.
2    Golden St.   James Wiseman   7-1   235   C   Memphis   Fr.
3    Charlotte   Onyeka Okongwu   6-9   235   PF/C   USC   Fr.
4    Chicago   LaMelo Ball   6-8   180   PG   USA   Intl.
5    Cleveland   Obi Toppin   6-9   220   PF   Dayton   So.
6    Atlanta   Patrick Williams   6-7   215   SF/PF   Florida St.   Fr.
7    Detroit   Isaac Okoro   6-6   215   SG/SF   Auburn   Fr.
8    New York   Tyrese Haliburton   6-5   185   PG   Iowa St.   So.
9    Washington   Deni Avdija   6-9   210   SF   Israel   Intl.
10    Phoenix   Killian Hayes   6-5   195   PG   France   Intl.
11    San Antonio   Devin Vassell   6-7   200   SG   Florida St.   So.
12    Sacramento   Saddiq Bey   6-8   215   SF   Villanova   So.
13    New Orleans   Kira Lewis   6-3   170   PG   Alabama   So.
14    *Boston   Aaron Nesmith

Think anyone related to Paul Silas would smack his lips over Randle. 

And I believe DSJ would benefit playing with Harden and Gordon, as it would open up driving lanes for him. 

Wake me when it happens. 

Why would I put my heart into this as opposed to CP3? Especially considering Westbrook is a double edged sword.  Alive with minuses and plusses. 

He is a mediocre three point shooter.  Though in his best season with OKC,  back in 2015-16, he got up to .343% [200-583], but sliding since. 

He is a high volume shooter. 

Purportedly a moody motherfucker. 

And he just turned 32.  Which is slightly more tenable than 35, even though his contract is a year longer and just as scary [41,44, 47]

Still, not so gray around the fringes. 

As the dominant ballhanlder his last four seasons in OKC, he averaged 10.5 assists a game.  And 6.0, 9.0, 9.2, 9.6 boards.

27.2 ppg, 7.9 reb, 7.0 assist last season with Houston. 

Not a leader?

If RW is your bell cow, as he would be in NYC, you better believe he would be a leader, by example. 

I suspect Thibs wants to play with pace, and RW surely ups the pace. 

I suspect Thibs wants someone to drive to the hoop and break down the D and open up deiving lanes and easier shots. 

I suspect Thibs wants someone who raises the level of intensity. 

Let's put it this way.

My son in law took me to a Charlotte-OKC game in 2018-2019. 

Hornets jumped on OKC.

In the second half, Wetbrook TOOK OVER. 

I've said this before, but it bear repeating. 

RW was like Barry Sanders in sneakers. 

When he pushed the ball up court, his intensity was palpable, let alone the sheer sound of his sneakers on the floor....bambambam...the Hornets defenders were on their heels.  He either finished himself, often with a +1, or kicked out to an open shooter. 

The chemistry between Westbrook and the Garden Faithful would be electrifying. 

And it had better be, given the guaranteed money involved. 

I believe RW would be inspired by the Garden and by being THE MAN. 

There is such a rain of BS and speculation busting out all over, any and all rumors needs be taken with a bag of salt. 

Again, I like Randle, but he seems like a placeholder.  His absence would leave a hole for sure, though perhaps an affordable FA might beckon. 

AGAIN, I am with FACIL, and am not a proponent of THE BIG SPLASH, but if Rose wants to roll that way, well...and have someone eating such an immense piece of the cap, if the price is only [ONLY], Julius, Dennis and the 2023 Dallas #1, well....
, in a sea of bad ideas, this one is marginally less painful. 

MARGINALLY. 

Your thoughts, FaCil? 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14196 on: November 14, 2020, 07:47:11 PM »

Avdija likely wont be there but if we did get Russ, Deni over Tyrese is an easy call.
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« Reply #14197 on: November 14, 2020, 07:54:14 PM »

NBA Central: The New York Knicks may be willing to move R.J. Barrett or Mitchell Robinson if it meant landing one of the top three picks, per @Chad Ford (h/t @Sam Amico ) pic.twitter.com/VPsknnOgFe

Shit's gettin real for LaMelo and Knicks
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« Reply #14198 on: November 14, 2020, 10:50:14 PM »

... and the only thing that really makes sense is my Mitch to GSW trade.


Mini doesn't need RJB.  Mitch would be a minor role player there.
GSW and CHA don't need RJB, they want shooters and defenders.
CHA might like Mitch, but could just draft WiseMan or Okongwu.

But give GSW a 15-20 min a night rim protecting, long-armed perimeter guarding, rim-running Mitch.
And the #8 pick.  Draft a 3&D wing -- Vassell?  Pa Williams?  Saddiq?  Okoro?

GSW adds Mitch & Vassell
or Mitch & Okoro
or Mitch and Pat Williams.

Again, I'd flip Wiggins for love, so not relying on too many yute role players.
Mitch would revive Dray.  They could be an awesome defensive tandem.

Scurry - ??
Klay - Damion Lee
Vassell/Okoro - ??
Love - Paschall
Dray - Mitch

Well, they'd still need some backup G's and wings.
They should try to scoop up Brad Wanamaker for the ~$4M exception (what used to be the LLE).
Guy played hard on both ends.  Could back up Scurry.
Try to pick up a vet SF with some 3&D chops who could start some.  Like a Bullock/Courtney Lee type.
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« Reply #14199 on: November 14, 2020, 10:55:58 PM »

NBA Central: The New York Knicks may be willing to move R.J. Barrett or Mitchell Robinson if it meant landing one of the top three picks, per @Chad Ford (h/t @Sam Amico ) pic.twitter.com/VPsknnOgFe

Shit's gettin real for LaMelo and Knicks

Not this shit.
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« Reply #14200 on: November 14, 2020, 10:59:40 PM »

... and the only thing that really makes sense is my Mitch to GSW trade.


Mini doesn't need RJB.  Mitch would be a minor role player there.
GSW and CHA don't need RJB, they want shooters and defenders.
CHA might like Mitch, but could just draft WiseMan or Okongwu.

But give GSW a 15-20 min a night rim protecting, long-armed perimeter guarding, rim-running Mitch.
And the #8 pick.  Draft a 3&D wing -- Vassell?  Pa Williams?  Saddiq?  Okoro?

GSW adds Mitch & Vassell
or Mitch & Okoro
or Mitch and Pat Williams.

Again, I'd flip Wiggins for love, so not relying on too many yute role players.
Mitch would revive Dray.  They could be an awesome defensive tandem.

Scurry - ??
Klay - Damion Lee
Vassell/Okoro - ??
Love - Paschall
Dray - Mitch

Well, they'd still need some backup G's and wings.
They should try to scoop up Brad Wanamaker for the ~$4M exception (what used to be the LLE).
Guy played hard on both ends.  Could back up Scurry.
Try to pick up a vet SF with some 3&D chops who could start some.  Like a Bullock/Courtney Lee type.

So you're saying the Knicks sacrifice MR and Vassell for (presumably) Ball? who?

AND they pay a higher contract to Ball than MR.  What a deal!

Why would they do this?
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« Reply #14201 on: November 14, 2020, 11:25:37 PM »


So you're saying the Knicks sacrifice MR and Vassell for (presumably) Ball? who?

AND they pay a higher contract to Ball than MR.  What a deal!

Why would they do this?

Why?
Because they’re the fucking Knicks and they listen to advice from morons that are at the same level of idiocy of Chamaco Cartero.
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« Reply #14202 on: November 14, 2020, 11:41:58 PM »

They do it to get a high level starting PG for the next decade plus.
They do it if they believe Ball is a potential all-star.
Getting a high quality starting PG is the only thing that will turn the Knix around.
A 19 year old PG prodigy.
Yeah, why would anyone want that?
Got to give to get.

Caveats:
1) Not a sure thing Ball lasts to #2.
(of course the deal would be contingent upon GSW picking Ball for us)
2) I haven't seen Ball play much, but he does make some genius level passes.  His casual full court transition passes off the dribble are uncanny.

If Ball had better form on his J, Mitch & #8 for Ball would a no-brainer.
Mitch is a fun intriguing player, but defensive C's can be found much easier than a staring PG. And the lack of a quality defensive C can be papered over much easier than not having a good PG.

Mitch and Vassell are nice building blocks I'd like the Knix to have.
But Ball could be a franchise cornerstone.
It's simply a level up.


I forgot GSW has Looney and is so thin at G.
We could expand the deal to get Looney ($5M) and give them Elf or Jr. Smith.
I'd want to hold off on including Franc.
Elf, despite his lack of 3's, would fit there well as a Scurry backup who could run the team.
Run him out there with Mitch and Klay.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14203 on: November 15, 2020, 12:02:26 AM »

Rusty is too much of a commitment for too long. Screw that. Let Houston enjoy the marriage.

If Ball drops to 8, sure, pick him. No trading up for him though.

Actually if a team above us takes him and will give him up for 8 and the second rounder, pull the trigger.
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« Reply #14204 on: November 15, 2020, 12:16:30 AM »

None of that taint happenin'
Got to give to get.
You don't value Ball highly.  Fine.

TheMelo has some incredible passing vision.
While a 6'7" PG with handles and vision is rare.
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