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chipstern

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So....
« Reply #14280 on: November 17, 2020, 01:11:54 PM »

So, Okoro's a bust in the making.

Waiter, check please. 
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Re: So....
« Reply #14281 on: November 17, 2020, 03:54:50 PM »

So, Okoro's a bust in the making.

Waiter, check please.

He could be just fine or he could be a Stanley Johnson or MKG.
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Re: So....
« Reply #14282 on: November 17, 2020, 04:12:45 PM »

So, Okoro's a bust in the making.

Waiter, check please.

He could be just fine or he could be a Stanley Johnson or MKG.

Projecting him as a bust is jive. 

And YES, I want Vassell. 

PS: The fact that the Knicks have done NOTHING STUPID, is promising.  By Sunday we will know for sure. 

PPS: And YES, I agree with BoD that Vassell is the 3&D wing I want running with RJB. 

PPPS: I believe the Knicks might be blowing smoke at #8, as regards, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HALIBURTON.  Not likley he drops that far, but maybe, MAYBE, the Knicks are propegating disinformation , as in, hey Atlanta, take Okoro at #8, hey Detroit, take Patrick Williams at #7. 

SOMEONE WE ARE NOT EXPECING IS GOING TO FALL TO #8.

Still time for Ainge to offer us Marcus Smart and their three #1s for the #8 pick. 

PPPPS: Fuck Gordon Hayward. 
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Re: So....
« Reply #14283 on: November 17, 2020, 04:22:20 PM »

So, Okoro's a bust in the making.

Waiter, check please.

He could be just fine or he could be a Stanley Johnson or MKG.

I would do more research on this if I were you.  May be some reasons Okoro turns out better - if you see Johnson and Kidd-Gilchrist predraft work.

I also wouldn't shovel dirt on those 2 yet though I agree whoever takes Okoro wouldn't want to wait so long
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14284 on: November 17, 2020, 04:23:51 PM »

Chip - don't worry

We are not taking Okoro. You will not need to defend the pick.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14285 on: November 17, 2020, 04:41:57 PM »

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14286 on: November 17, 2020, 04:54:16 PM »

Chip - don't worry

We are not taking Okoro. You will not need to defend the pick.

Not even sure Okoro will be there. 

At this point, while I am pulling for Vassell, I wonder if the Knicks would reach for Kira Lewis. 

My feeling is that Vassell would potentially be the best match for RJ moving foward as part of a 2-3 tandem.  Suspect Bullock and Ntilikina joins them. 

See Kevin and Iggy as 3-4. 

Randle and Wooten as 4-5.   

Not sure what the Knicks thinking is regarding Smith and Payton. 

I would like to see us get Jeff Teague.  Not sure how down he would be for the Knicks. 

PG Jared Harper has a two-way contract. 

Our pick at #27 becomes very interesting.  Some PG/Combo guard talent will be there.  If PF Jaden McDaniels falls to us, hard to see Knicks passing on him. 

Who knows. 



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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14287 on: November 17, 2020, 05:35:51 PM »

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PPPPS: Fuck Gordon Hayward.

sounds like there's a S&T being worked on.

supposedly a few teams interested in Gordo the Indestructible.

I like him-but Keerist he had some bad luck.

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Still time for Ainge to offer us Marcus Smart and their three #1s for the #8 pick.

There's still time for Trump to concede the election gracefully and beg forgiveness to the American people for being a fucking psycopathic murderous fascist D-bag.

I'm not sure on that trade Chip. Seems a little lopsided. Plus i really like Smart. He's like a good single-malt scotch, not for everyone, too much can give you a headache, but used responsibily you can get a real nice buzz.

Trump's apology probably comes first.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14288 on: November 17, 2020, 05:50:53 PM »

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PPPPS: Fuck Gordon Hayward.

sounds like there's a S&T being worked on.

supposedly a few teams interested in Gordo the Indestructible.

I like him-but Keerist he had some bad luck.

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Still time for Ainge to offer us Marcus Smart and their three #1s for the #8 pick.

There's still time for Trump to concede the election gracefully and beg forgiveness to the American people for being a fucking psycopathic murderous fascist D-bag.

I'm not sure on that trade Chip. Seems a little lopsided. Plus i really like Smart. He's like a good single-malt scotch, not for everyone, too much can give you a headache, but used responsibily you can get a real nice buzz.

Trump's apology probably comes first.

Kiid has already castigated me for a one-sided pornographic fantasy.

GUILTY. 

Of course you like SMART. 

Not the ultimate PG, but a solid facilitator who has upped his outside shooting, and is a dynamic defender and the consummate competitor. 

Knicks fans would worship him. 

Given the dicey nature of Kemba's knee, no, I cannot fathom why Danny would gift him to the Knicks. 

But for me, that is what it would take, plus the three #1 picks for #8. 

I like Hayward's game.  Good cat, but snake bit physically, and a ridiculous contract. 

PS: Plus the karma.  Walt Perrin, now part of the Knicks brain trust, prevailed upon the Jazz to pick him...WITH THE SECOND OF TWO #1 PICKS FROM THE MARBURY TRADE, which they picked up from Phoenix, as part of a deal to absorb Tom Chambers' shitty contract.  BAD Karma. 

PPS: Again, the fact that the Knicks have done nothing truly stupid or reactively short term in thinking since April is consoling.  Their coaching and player development and front office and scouting moves were all solid.   We will know more by Sunday.  In any event, we would have jumped on a Westbrook deal in the past.  Probably still on the table, but am not feeling much enthusiasm. Front office people have the same obligations as physicians...DO NO HARM
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14289 on: November 17, 2020, 06:22:30 PM »

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Of course you like SMART.

Not the ultimate PG, but a solid facilitator who has upped his outside shooting, and is a dynamic defender and the consummate competitor.

Knicks fans would worship him.

Given the dicey nature of Kemba's knee, no, I cannot fathom why Danny would gift him to the Knicks.

But for me, that is what it would take, plus the three #1 picks for #8.

I like Hayward's game.  Good cat, but snake bit physically, and a ridiculous contract.

I've talked up Smart for several years here, (usually following a kid jab) he's an acquired taste and has gained more of a following as more folks appreciate the intangibles he brings.

He's like a middle-linebacker on defense, he sees the entire field and can play the run or pass. and he's a special teams demon.

He's a vlast to watch, even the time you shake your head and ask, "why Marcus, after he bricks three 3s in a row.

I wouldn't trade him for the #8 straight-up, plus he's on a very good contract. He's a bargain. I can't see a good reason to trade him unless as part of some mega-package bringing back huge value.

I like Gordo too, smart court savvy, usually makes the right play, and he's only got the 1 year left at $34MM, so his contract isn't that bad. I do wonder what he thinks his next contract will be. That may be the sticking point. I could see something like a 3 year extension, 3-66, plus the $34 for a 4-100 type deal either as a S&T or as a 6th man semi-PG wing in Boston.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14290 on: November 17, 2020, 06:32:31 PM »

Chip as an aside, I saw an NBA draft value matrix, similiar to the NFL chart that value picks and while there are a few iterations,

the rough value of the 14th, 26th and 30th picks is about the 4th pick.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14291 on: November 17, 2020, 06:52:29 PM »

I like the idea of a defensive core built around Frank Vassell and Mitch. Vassell would be a good get at #8.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14292 on: November 17, 2020, 07:07:44 PM »

Not sure what the Knicks thinking is regarding Smith and Payton.


DSJ right now is our starting PG

I am willing to give that a whirl if we do not add a free agent.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14293 on: November 17, 2020, 07:11:01 PM »

But for me, that is what it would take, plus the three #1 picks for #8.


Chip's about as smitten with Vassell as he was with Renaldo Balkman.
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« Reply #14294 on: November 17, 2020, 07:11:44 PM »

And Tony Douglas
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