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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[chipstern]

Exactly the same thing I said before the games started and Randle got cooking.

Randle and ObiT are duplicative.  Both one-position scoring 4's with iffy D (can't really play C or SF).  Seems another self-inflicted draft error.

Maybe drafting ObiT lit a fire under Julius.  But that doesn't change the dynamics.

Before Randle got cooking it was seen as a pick for when Randle was traded or not signed/re-upped.  In that case that would've been a prudent PF pick.
Now that Randle looks like a keeper you should be happy we have a keeper at PF.

Either way we have a keeper at PF.   A good thing.

Hey, I fail to see the problem with having TWO KEEPERS AT PF. 

Talent is TALENT. 

As for Kenny Atkinson over Thibs as a "developmental" coach?

Lordy.  Derrick Rose?  Jimmy Butler?  Taj Gibson? 

I don't think so, but a moot point. 

Hoping Rivers gets some burn tonight.  So far our signings of Noels and Burke have worked out nicely, Spellman still to be heard from, with both returning vets, Peyton and Bullock, getting into rhythm, and progress from our core puppies RJ, Robinson and Kevin, even Frank, if he ever stop getting nicked up.  Quickley and Toppin's time will come. 

This already very much THIBS' TEAM, and for that day old piece of bread, I am grateful. 

[kidcarter8]

Exactly the same thing I said before the games started and Randle got cooking.

Randle and ObiT are duplicative.  Both one-position scoring 4's with iffy D (can't really play C or SF).  Seems another self-inflicted draft error.

Maybe drafting ObiT lit a fire under Julius.  But that doesn't change the dynamics.

Before Randle got cooking it was seen as a pick for when Randle was traded or not signed/re-upped.  In that case that would've been a prudent PF pick.
Now that Randle looks like a keeper you should be happy we have a keeper at PF.

Either way we have a keeper at PF.   A good thing.

Bo is the only one who thinks they cannot play together

And when it comes down to it, your thinking may be right about the pick fitting position and NYK thinking - but could be it was their choice as best player available as well

Haliburton has been good, as has Avdija.  Until Obi flies we have no settled case

[kidcarter8]

Sounds like Rivers will play

Burks and Quickley out

[bodiddley]

TOR has blown a lead in all 3 L's so far:

New Orleans Pelicans rallied from an 11-point deficit and beat the relocated Toronto

DeMar DeRozan had 27 points and the San Antonio Spurs rallied in the final minute to beat the Toronto Raptors 119-114 on Saturday night.

Embiid shakes off injury, rallies 76ers past winless Raptors

Not sure what that's all about since we're talking a vet team with experience together.  Maybe conditioning, maybe bad luck.  Raps don't really have a 1A go-to guy when they need a bucket.  Siakim?  FVV?  Lowry?
Siakim and FVV are shooting under 40% FG.

G1 v. NOPe: tied game with 1:15 left in 3Q; TOR went 3-12 in the 4Q

G2: Tight game the whole way; TOR with a 4 PT lead with 2:10 left

G3: TOR didn't score last 5:10 of 3Q, losing a 13 Pt lead; Siakim fouled out; PHI shot 19 more FT's; TOR 37 Pt 2nd half

Aside from Boucher, their bench has been poor, and appears thin.
Might be why they faded late 3Q in 2 of 3 so far.
So Knick depth/bench could be key.
Though Knix have 6 (bench) guys out.

We'll see what Tom Thumb's rotations/minutes turn out to be.  I think so far he's trying to see what works.  Plus there's been different guys out every game so far.

Every year TOR has moved one of their once loaded bench into the starting lineup: Siakim --> FVV --> Anunoby.  But never restocked.
So it's Boucher and Normative Powell.  Alex Len, Stan John and Matt Thomas.
Good chance for Len and StanJohn to show they can play.  Two guys I was big on their rook/soph years.
Boucher has played well.

[bodiddley]

Hey, I fail to see the problem with having TWO KEEPERS AT PF. 

1) Lots of needs -- we needed to draft a starter.
2) Rather similar players, without positional variety
3) PF isn't a key position
4) a 4 game hot streak from Randle doesn't make him a keeper.

Aside from kiid, do others think Randle and Toppings can play together?

I definitely think the Knicks thought they drafted the BPA in ObiT.
The good thing is there is no rush to move Randle, so we can wait for obiT to develop or for Randle to claim a long term hold on Knick PF.

It struck me that Randle is basically playing Blake Griffin style PF.  Point forward who can rumble for physical drives and pop some 3's.  Draw defensive attention into the paint and kick out to shooters.  Straight from the Blake school of PF.

Losing weight and better conditioning has helped Randle.  A little quicker.  A little more willing to play defense.

[kidcarter8]

Strikes me as NEEDY that you would kill Randle all that time and still feel the need to analyze him when he is doing so well

Your silence on the matter is fine.

MATT THOMAS is the other bench guy playing well for TOR, who has no starter above a 15.6 PER

Just one of those things, I'd say - the slow start -

League will right itself (see PHI currently leading 4-0 Orlando by 25 before the half)

I expect a Malachi Flynn sighting.  Talk about paying dues.  1 game.  1 minute played

[kidcarter8]

SIAKAM suspended by team for tonights game

[bodiddley]

Normally Powell paying dividends as a starter.
We'll see how TOR's bench holds up.
But Knix also thin tonight due to injuries.

[kidcarter8]

Looks like Rivers may get the chance to stop the stink.

Holy Kurt Rambis!!!!

[kidcarter8]

Austin went with the LONNIE SHELTON rather than his dad's 25

[bodiddley]

Randle ran over one guy.  Another play nearly spun into a triple team then threw the ball away.
RJB 1-5 FG.
Knox with a 6' foot floater from 8' away.
Kinda ugly so far.

Edit: then Knox cans a pair of 3's.

[kidcarter8]

Knicks need some Moneyball management

As in telling Knox - "when you take that runner going away from the hoop to your right you hit it at 16%"

[bodiddley]

Au Revoir making a difference.
NYK bench smacking TOR's around.

[kidcarter8]

Barrett needs to see Abdul Rauf

[bodiddley]

Considering Knix starters are 0-11 on 3's, and the team 2-18, being down by 2 is rather good.