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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kidcarter8]

Whoever gets Rose gets his Bird rights - and thus can sign him for up to 13.4 mil per (has to be 2+ years)

Certainly a positive for Knicks should we complete the deal, which is supposedly close to fruition.

[bodiddley]

MIA sure loses guys along the (left) baseline, which is tailor made for ObiT.
Mitch got outplayed by Bam.

Butler looked rusty, yet made some big shots, got 12 FT's and nearly a trip-dub.  A competitor.  MIA 3-2 since Butler returned (an OT loss an another by 3).

Bollocks was hot.  7 treys and 4 steals = a nice 2-way effort.
Randle did his thing. 
Was almost enough.
Heat a gritty grind it out team.
So are the Knix.
Good game

[carlos123]

Dollars To Doughnuts, THIBS Is The Impetus Behind Any Rose Trade. 

Casey Stengel, when once asked what the secret of his success, opined, that "I never play without my man," by which he meant YOGI BERRA, whether at catcher, first base or left field. 

Thibs is most def developing youth. 

Robinson, Barrett, Quickley....RANDLE. 

But he likes his vets.

Payton, Rivers, Bullock, Burks. 

Again, one has to think there is more than one deal on the back burner. 

If I were to transmogrify into Trader Facil, in some idealized Alternare Universe, I would offer the Pistons Dennis Smith, and our two #2 picks, one of which is Detroit's own, trending towards the first pick of the second round, and Charlotte's pick.


Alan Hahn just posted on FACEBOOK, that according to the Athletic, this is precisely what is going down. 

Dennis Smith and draft compensation for Derrick Rose.  A fair bet that no #1 picks are going bye bye.

So Detroit getting back their #2 which we aquired from the Morris trade.  Maybe Charlotte's #2 or one of the future #2 picks we have stockpiled.

Sure he likes his vets.

Like BoZ said, we got Taj, Rivers and soon D. Rose. Butler won't play for him, so the only one missing from the old gang will be Joakim Noah.

[kidcarter8]

Deal is official

Knicks keep the DET pick - give up the CHA - with DSJ

Happy for Dennis

Happy for Rose

Happy for Knicks

[luee]

Pretty obvious with TT if you are soft you do not play, which begs the question why not Franky and KK?

[bodiddley]

For just Jr. Smith and the CHA 2nd, it certainly didn't cost much to get Rose.
I assume this means we've largely given up on Rivers who was IQ's running mate.
And now Rose will take over that role.

[facilitatorn]

The Bird rights for Rose makes this super tasty.

We still have three picks in the upcoming draft, including a second rounder we’ve improved with this deal (by making Detroit worse).

This was a sharp move.

I’d rather see Rose take the minutes from Rivers than Quickley. He may displace Payton some as well.

[carlos123]

For just Jr. Smith and the CHA 2nd, it certainly didn't cost much to get Rose.
I assume this means we've largely given up on Rivers who was IQ's running mate.
And now Rose will take over that role.

That would be nice.

Hope it's not just wishful thinking.

But I'm afraid he's gonna eat into both Elf's and IQ's minutes.

We'll know pretty soon, won't we?

[chipstern]

The Bird rights for Rose makes this super tasty.

We still have three picks in the upcoming draft, including a second rounder we’ve improved with this deal (by making Detroit worse).

This was a sharp move.

I’d rather see Rose take the minutes from Rivers than Quickley. He may displace Payton some as well.

What the ACTUAL FUCK?

Apparently the days of the Knicks being abject suckers have passed. 

In my wildest dreams I couldn't conceive of offloading Dennis, and getting back Rose for the price of Charlotte's #2.  Not Detroit's....CHARLOTTE's!  Wow. 

Some blogger gave the Knicks a C+ on this trade because it will cut into Quick's time and delay his evolution. 

Moron. 

If it cuts into anyone's time, it will be Rivers.  I would expect to see Quickley out there with Rose and the second unit.  For starters. 

As of today, the way the draft is seeded, PreLottery-PingPong balls, the Knicks would have the #6, #9, and #31 picks in the draft. 

I was sure Detroit would hold out for Ntililina & the #31 pick, to team two Euros, a French back court of Frank and Kilian Hayesn so getting Rose for Thibs at the cost of a player who was no longer in our plans, and what is presently the #38 pick, is solid. 

Thibs gets a combo guard he trusts [and who hoefully has better vision of Obi on those baseline back cuts, and Mitchell on the pick and roll], IQ gets a more skilled mentor, Elfrid gets more competition, Rivers gets the gift of Frank breathing down his neck, and Dennis gets a second chance. 

The Charlotte pick is the second of two second rounders we got for Hernan-Gomez. 

Charlotte is presently at 11-13, while we are at 11-14, knotted at 7 & 8 in the EC. 

I would expect the value of that Hornets pick to crater a bit, because they are a team on the rise with Hayward and Ball.  Anthony Edwards looks to be a good pro, but gotta believe T-Wolves would like a Mulligan on Ball.  Ball and Russell would be some back court. 

Anyway, I know that many Knicks fans are conflicted on D-Rose given the desire to see more of Quickley.

IQ ain't going anywhere.  This is good news. 

Perry & Perrin did good. 

I suspect that out of Rose, Payton, Quickley, Rivers, Ntilikina, Barrett, Bullock, Burks, Knox and Brazdeikis, out of TEN PLAYERS competing for minutes at PG, SG, SF, some other shoes will be dropping shortly. 

Meanwhile, "We who are about to compete for Thibs' love, salute you." 

[chipstern]

The arrival of Rose brings help for the NBA’s 25th-rated offensive team and creates an overlap of veteran guards, including starter Elfrid Payton and Austin Rivers. Rivers is likely to become a player that contenders seek in trade talks as teams look to fortify backcourts closer to the March 25 trade deadline. – via Adrian Wojnarowski @ ESPN

[elephant]

The arrival of Rose brings help for the NBA’s 25th-rated offensive team and creates an overlap of veteran guards, including starter Elfrid Payton and Austin Rivers. Rivers is likely to become a player that contenders seek in trade talks as teams look to fortify backcourts closer to the March 25 trade deadline. – via Adrian Wojnarowski @ ESPN

Yeah, I saw that. But having seen Rivers all season, I thought, "Really?"

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

In any case, if the basic take is that Rose will take River's minutes, cool. I hadn't thought of that earlier, because I guess I didn't see Rose playing that kind of role. But if he can — and perhaps this is the kind of thing Thibs has insight into — it will be interesting to watch.

[kidcarter8]

For just Jr. Smith and the CHA 2nd, it certainly didn't cost much to get Rose.
I assume this means we've largely given up on Rivers who was IQ's running mate.
And now Rose will take over that role.

Assume away

I am thinking Thibs doesnt GIVE UP on guys.

With Rivers many thought he was signed to deal anyway.

We'll see.

[Kam]

The Bird rights for Rose makes this super tasty.

We still have three picks in the upcoming draft, including a second rounder we’ve improved with this deal (by making Detroit worse).

This was a sharp move.

I’d rather see Rose take the minutes from Rivers than Quickley. He may displace Payton some as well.

What the ACTUAL FUCK?

Apparently the days of the Knicks being abject suckers have passed. 

In my wildest dreams I couldn't conceive of offloading Dennis

The KP trade keeps paying dividends!

[Jack Straw]

well D Rose cost us very little - that's nice, and now that it's done, time will tell how it all shakes out...as long as IQ minutes are affected (and his minutes have dropped of late) I'm fine...Rivers has not looked sharp of late so there's that...

today was spirited but a B2B matinee - even at home, is a janky scheduling  to begin with...

[Kam]