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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17955 on: April 01, 2021, 03:13:15 PM »
I get the concept, but who is going to get ObiT the ball in good position?
Most likely Rose or IQ (who throws good lobs) and both are 2nd uniters.
Simply if ObiT was reliable on D, he would play more.

Bogdan2 at a flat $18M is the same as starting at $16M rising to $20M over 4 years.
A legit sniper with ballhandling, some driving ability, passing, and average or above D.  Guy has a nice all-round game.  If we had Bogdan (or TyH), either could start, with Bullox as our backup SF.  If we need to save the money for a PG, I can understand that.  But Bogdan/TyH would help this current team significantly.
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« Reply #17956 on: April 02, 2021, 05:38:02 AM »
Bogmonster with 28 Pts on 12-17 FG; 4-5 on 3's, 5 boards, 5 assists, 2 blocks and a steal in 45 minutes (in a dub-OT game).
Sure just one game, and Burks has had a game or tow like that, but just an example of what Bogdan can bring.
Was brought in to complement Trae and take pressure off Young Trae by helping with ballhandling and facilitating and knocking down shots. 
Things will come together for ATL when DeA Hunter returns to his 3&D wing role.

Don't forget that MIL, with championship aspirations, tried to sign-and-trade for Bogdan.  They were giving up DiVicenzo, DJ Wil and Ilyasova.  But Bogdan didn't agree to the new contract and went the FA route.  In MIL, Bogdan would have teamed up nicely with JRue in an all-new versatile backcourt.  Bogdan would have been MIL's primary sniper, along with Middleton.  Not sure why he didn't agree.

JRue - Bogdan - Midddleton - Giannis - Lopez
That's formidable.
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« Reply #17957 on: April 02, 2021, 11:18:02 AM »
Not sure - but in your opinion could Milwaukee then have still completed the Holiday deal, which was

George Hill, Bledsoe and 5 number 1s (including 2020 pick Hampton) for JRUE and MERRILL?
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« Reply #17958 on: April 02, 2021, 12:25:21 PM »
MIL had the Jrue deal in place first, securing a PG upgrade over Bledsoe who was not good in the playoffs.  Then tried to arrange an s-n-t deal for Bogdanovic.  Things got awkward with the deal leaking 3 days before trades were allowed.  The questionable nature of the deal timing might have been why Bogdan pulled out of it.  Somewhat unclear, but it was a bit shady.

In any case, two wholly separate deals with the Bogdan trade = DiVicenzo, DJ Wilson and Ilya, players uninvolved in the JRue trade.  So I don't see the any problem.
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My point was that a top-tier team in MIL wanted Bogdan starting for them at $18 or whatever, and ATL with playoff aspirations did as well.  There was competition for his services and his contract is reasonable for his skill set (you usually pay a little extra in FA).

I would have tried to use FA to add a 4th legit Knick starter. 
I would have used the draft for the same, but we went with Toppings instead.
FVV, who might now wish we made an offer and he came to NY.  Or Bogdanx2.  Or Christian Wood, who went to a troubled team for a very affordable price. 
Any of those would have improved the NYK present and future.
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« Reply #17959 on: April 02, 2021, 12:35:02 PM »
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« Reply #17960 on: April 02, 2021, 12:39:07 PM »
MIL had the Jrue deal in place first, securing a PG upgrade over Bledsoe who was not good in the playoffs.  Then tried to arrange an s-n-t deal for Bogdanovic.  Things got awkward with the deal leaking 3 days before trades were allowed.  The questionable nature of the deal timing might have been why Bogdan pulled out of it.  Somewhat unclear, but it was a bit shady.


ok, cool

just reading this now.....

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/bucks-are-all-in-trade-giannis-jrue-holliday
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« Reply #17961 on: April 02, 2021, 12:47:22 PM »
On your draft point - I dont think Vassel or Haliburton would have been a  Knicks starter
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« Reply #17962 on: April 02, 2021, 02:15:42 PM »
My point was to try to draft a player who could become a starter.  And we didn't really try to do that, unless we anticipated moving on from Randle.

We needed a wing and a PG starter.
Vassal was my primary backup shooter choice if TyH was gone.
But then Avdija dropped, so TyH and Avdija looked like the two best options.
TyH certainly looks like he'll be a future starter.  You'd hope Avdija will become one too.
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« Reply #17963 on: April 02, 2021, 02:48:43 PM »
Eh...

Trade up would have yielded that - all accounts say we tried to to get Ball.

But I think after that we didnt feel a starter was available from the draft - at least not for this year.

Toppin fell in perfectly if Randle had been just adequate.

Still fits OK.

Could we deal him?

Sure.  All options open.
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« Reply #17964 on: April 02, 2021, 02:52:03 PM »
Vassal was my primary backup shooter choice if TyH was gone.


Actually looking back you had leapfrogged Haliburton with Vassell.  Neither would have started day 1.  Even Ball likely wouldnt have.  Edwards, maybe.  Eventual starters?  Remains to be seen for ALL 2020 draftees.
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« Reply #17965 on: April 02, 2021, 04:24:21 PM »
I don't wanna be a buzz kill for the devotee (who shall remain nameless) of the racist Trump-inspired voting restrictions devised by wise Georgian politicians , but Coke did indeed turn, Delta too, and repudiated voter-suppression in Georgia and anywhere else.

And today so did Major League Fucking Baseball.

No 2021 All Star Game in Atlanta.
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« Reply #17966 on: April 02, 2021, 04:37:39 PM »
Barrett and Bullock questionable tonight
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Chamaco also turns
« Reply #17967 on: April 02, 2021, 06:14:09 PM »
Quote from: elephant on April 02, 2021, 04:24:21 PM
I don't wanna be a buzz kill for the devotee (who shall remain nameless) of the racist Trump-inspired voting restrictions devised by wise Georgian politicians , but Coke did indeed turn, Delta too, and repudiated voter-suppression in Georgia and anywhere else.

And today so did Major League Fucking Baseball.

No 2021 All Star Game in Atlanta.

Oh, but the devotee, AKA Chamaco Cartero, also turns.

See his posts, he's no longer promoting Coke, he's now selling RC, whatever the fuck that is.



Chamaco is very flexible when it comes to that, and he adjusts to the situation 😜

PS. Hey LES, what have you been up to? No posting here for a while, what's up with you?, I miss my doggie 🐶
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17968 on: April 02, 2021, 08:22:09 PM »
OBI ASCENDING!
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« Reply #17969 on: April 02, 2021, 08:43:26 PM »
Skillset!


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