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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

Not a problem if we make reasonable deals.

Replace Payton with Rose and Rose with Burks and we have a potent 10 or 11 man rotation. Stability and commitment will help us more than inspiration or desperation at this point.

[chipstern]

Free Agents = LONG TERM CONTRACT

We inked ONE

Julius Randle. 

Working out pretty good. 

When I think of the Knicks and long term contracts? 

Certain names spring to mind. 

Jerome James

Joakim Noah

Howard Eisley

Shandon Anderson

Tim Weatherspoon

Sometimes we strike gold, such as ALLAN HOUSTON, before Don Chaney blew his legs out. 

I kinda like the Rose-WWW-Perry conservative approach. 

I think there are TWO reasonably realistic free agents we could make a run at this summer. 

RFA Lonzo Ball.  If Pelicans match, and a sign and trade is called for, Frank and Kevin could prove a reasonable compensation...maybe toss in the #33 pick? 

UFA DeMar DeRozan.  Saw something interesting where DD apparently would like to come back to compete in the East.  If the price is right, he ain't worth a damn as a 3-point threat, but coming on 32, this SF/SG remains a solid 20 ppg man, gets to the FT line a lot, and is converting at an .887% clip this year with 7.2 assists a game. 

NOT saying we should make a run at him and bid Burks goodbye.  Anymore than I am bidding goodbye to Frank and Kevin. 

But LEON and WWW, PERRY and PERRIN have some interesting decisions regarding our own free agents and how and upon whom we should deploy our draft assets. 

Robinson-Noel-Taj-Pelle
Randle-Toppin
Bullock-Burks
Barrett-Quickley
Ball-Rose

Would look a tad crowded with both Ball AND DeRozan, does it not? 

Anyway, the idle mind is the devil's workshop, and BeElZuhBub does love to stargaze the draft and free agency. 

[facilitatorn]

We’ll also have 3 rooks to ship as well as future picks if we want to keep Kevin or Frank.

[bodiddley]

Rose was terrific in the 2Q.
Booker was a cold assassin in the 1st half, really carried PHX.
Knix gave a top team all they could handle.

Without knowing lockerroom dynamics, practice and such, I'm inclined to re-sign Nawlins hopefully around $8M a year (3/$25M if possible).  There is a C glut league-wide while teams also go smallball a good deal and want 3-point shooting from all 5 positions.  That is, how much can Father Noel cash in elsewhere?

Hang on to Taj and Pelle.  And look to sign and trade Mitch.  He's probably more expensive than Nawlins, somewhat injury-prone, and occasionally mopey.
MitchRob is a solid asset and we should be able to get something decent back for him.  Maybe Mitch and Franc go out in a deal for BallZo.  Flipping a good young C, where we have a surplus, for a good young PG seems smart.

Could keep Mitch -- what does he get $10M - $13M? -- and let Noel walk.
Mitch and Noel are so similar that I'd want to keep one and Taj who offers a different skill set and relentless rebounding.  Do folks notice how many O-boards Taj gets his hands on?  Pelle looks like a cheap serviceable 3rd C.

[bodiddley]

Anf Simons hit his first 9 treys.
27 points in 24 mins.
Tied an NBA record of 13 straight 3's (over 4 games in his case).
A young guy I've had an eye on.
I thought with Trent's sharpshooting, Simons could be had relatively cheaply.
But they moved Trent.

[kidcarter8]

RFA Lonzo Ball.  If Pelicans match, and a sign and trade is called for, Frank and Kevin could prove a reasonable compensation...maybe toss in the #33 pick?


Why would NO want those guys?

Frank would need a multi-year deal

[kidcarter8]

MitchRob is a solid asset and we should be able to get something decent back for him.  Maybe Mitch and Franc go out in a deal for BallZo.  Flipping a good young C, where we have a surplus, for a good young PG seems smart.


More sensible

[bodiddley]

Kanter 12 & 14 in 15 mins.
9 O-boards in 15 mins.

Checking out 2nd half of Pels v. Clips.  Large NOPe lead.
Main takeaway: Cousin Boogie is a mess.

Posts up and is visibly annoyed he doesn't get the ball.
Pass goes into T Mann on the other side and sails out of bounds, and Boogie's body language is so bad I'm surprised he didn't stamp his feet.  Geez.

Then Boogie has the ball up top and twice in a 2 min span he gets stripped, failing to see the double team coming both times.    Down 16 with 32 secs left in 3Q Boogie secures a rebound and his outlet gets blocked by the Pel in front of him, for a steal and another late NOPe possession.   Christ, I'd waive Cousins before the 4Q started.

Only positive for 3Q Boogie was he got the ball inside, missed the layup, missed the tip, then tipped it in.

[carlos123]

Kanter 12 & 14 in 15 mins.
9 O-boards in 15 mins.

Plus 3 assists and 1 block.

I keep saying he should be getting more minutes if the damned Portland Knicks want to win.

[kidcarter8]

Anf Simons hit his first 9 treys.
27 points in 24 mins.
Tied an NBA record of 13 straight 3's (over 4 games in his case).
A young guy I've had an eye on.
I thought with Trent's sharpshooting, Simons could be had relatively cheaply.
But they moved Trent.

Thanks for the tip.  Just added Simons today for my fantasy playoffs.  I have had him off and on in this inconsistent season.

I think most of us were on the "why would they trade him?" side of Simons talk.

[chipstern]

Mark me down as fervently oppossed to your proposal to offload Mitchell Robinson. 

[bodiddley]

Lillard & McCJ are a poor defensive backcourt.
So you need some D out there; Kanter for all his boarding and interior scoring is a sieve on D.

I tuned in to the NOPe game to check out Zion more.
But odd game for ZW,
23 points on very good FG%, 5 assists, but 3 turnovers and just 1 rebound.
6-11 FT.  Made a poor early 4Q read for a wide open Batum 3. 
Made his only 3.

Ingram was aggressive 3Q.
Bledsoe had a strong 3Q.
With Grizzled Adams out, Willy Hernancortez had a nice game.
Coach and announcers praising him as a real pro, always ready, etc.
Ball not far off a triple-double.  Could have looked for his own shot more.
Seems if they can get Bled & Ball working in the same game, they are a stronger team.
It's still seems like a team in search of an identity.

[bodiddley]

Mark me down as fervently oppossed to your proposal to offload Mitchell Robinson.

Are you going to:
1) pay Mitch, Noel and Taj?  Invest a bunch of money in C's?
(are we still paying Noah next year?)
2) Keep Mitch and let Noel go? 
run with Mitch, Taj, Pelle
3) Let Taj go?
(mistake imo)

[kidcarter8]

Taj isnt of importance, Bo - come on - dont get crazy

If we decide to keep Mitch long term and are fortunate enough that Nerlens signs on, Gibson is gravy.  Still, yes - a very good talent in our system - and I'd think a minimum salary guy - those dont really cost in filling a roster

[kidcarter8]

I would think the Pelle add was due to the other factors (of who else would be willing to stay at our price)

If all three are in our $$ range, Norvelle's deal is not guaranteed fully - and he is asked to sign a 2-way or let go