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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

Not having a fresh wing body up to checking Richardson while our top two available wings were trying to keep pace with Tatum and Brown wound up being the clincher.

The Celtics dove and curled when their guys had it in the post. Our guys pretty much stood around.

[chipstern]

Not having a fresh wing body up to checking Richardson while our top two available wings were trying to keep pace with Tatum and Brown wound up being the clincher.

The Celtics dove and curled when their guys had it in the post. Our guys pretty much stood around.

Yup

Thibs is all about "Rim Reads"

And Kick Outs. 

One thing I really loved about Rose was how he ran the baseline back door with Obi. 

Our talent level? 

I guess we are not really up to the cuts and motion of top tier teams such as GS and Phoenix.  Of course they have some pretty good PGs. 

Oh well. 

[lesterluv]

PS: I love Obi, but the notion that somehow he is ready to supplant Julius, or that Thibs has gelded him, is dubious.  Two things.  ONE: Without both ROSE and WALKER, the kind of back cuts and P&R opportunities an effective PG can precipitate with an athelete like Obi are pretty much negated.  TWO: Obi has yet to display a consistent, effective, NBA grade outside shooting game on par with his college heroics, either in the form of a midrange stop and pop off of the dribble, or from three point range, where he has been a horrific 12-58.  EVERY TIME OBI HITS A JUMPER, AN ANGEL GETS HIS WINGS. 

Not saying it's supplant Julius time by any means...but when our asses are already kicked, maybe, just maybe, can we find a little time for Obi to work on this kind of thing..

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?ContextMeasure=FGM&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022100545&PlayerID=1630167&RangeType=0&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612752&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game&CF=SHOT_DISTANCE*E*6

or that kind of thing

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?ContextMeasure=FGM&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022100545&PlayerID=1630167&RangeType=0&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612752&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game&CF=SHOT_DISTANCE*E*16

I'd rather see some of that than another 58 three point attempts...or another possession where Quick dribbles the ball around for 18 seconds..and don't need any fancy PG'ing for the aforedelivered video samples.

I mean f'ck...RJ has had three seasons of green card to work on his arsenal despite the fact that he still misses 15 shots a night half the time..let's give Obi some time and some damn rope, particularly whenever Julius' apparently chronic constipation is acting up...32 minutes, say, would be more than enough there.


*** this kid Toppin has fantastic hands and a lovely touch..let's work with him on the where and how

[elephant]

Agreed.

This is where our stunted offensive scheme fucks the future.

Obi has improved since last season, but he's not going to thrive when his role is so constricted.

[elephant]

Really the offense is so goddamn boring. At least the 2nd team tends to bring pace to the floor.

Last year wasn't a mirage, but we hit the ceiling with our offensive approach. It's outdated.

[elephant]

Speaking of players we traded who never amounted to much elsewhere.

Will Barrett be added to that list? Will he be a star once we trade him away? A starter?

I've got no idea. But I'm skeptical.

Yes, he's just 21. But his game hasn't seemed to grown since last season. Is that about him? Or how he's used?

[chipstern]

PS: I love Obi, but the notion that somehow he is ready to supplant Julius, or that Thibs has gelded him, is dubious.  Two things.  ONE: Without both ROSE and WALKER, the kind of back cuts and P&R opportunities an effective PG can precipitate with an athelete like Obi are pretty much negated.  TWO: Obi has yet to display a consistent, effective, NBA grade outside shooting game on par with his college heroics, either in the form of a midrange stop and pop off of the dribble, or from three point range, where he has been a horrific 12-58.  EVERY TIME OBI HITS A JUMPER, AN ANGEL GETS HIS WINGS. 

Not saying it's supplant Julius time by any means...but when our asses are already kicked, maybe, just maybe, can we find a little time for Obi to work on this kind of thing..

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?ContextMeasure=FGM&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022100545&PlayerID=1630167&RangeType=0&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612752&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game&CF=SHOT_DISTANCE*E*6

or that kind of thing

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?ContextMeasure=FGM&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022100545&PlayerID=1630167&RangeType=0&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612752&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game&CF=SHOT_DISTANCE*E*16

I'd rather see some of that than another 58 three point attempts...or another possession where Quick dribbles the ball around for 18 seconds..and don't need any fancy PG'ing for the aforedelivered video samples.

I mean f'ck...RJ has had three seasons of green card to work on his arsenal despite the fact that he still misses 15 shots a night half the time..let's give Obi some time and some damn rope, particularly whenever Julius' apparently chronic constipation is acting up...32 minutes, say, would be more than enough there.


*** this kid Toppin has fantastic hands and a lovely touch..let's work with him on the where and how

Agree

[chipstern]

Really the offense is so goddamn boring. At least the 2nd team tends to bring pace to the floor.

Last year wasn't a mirage, but we hit the ceiling with our offensive approach. It's outdated.

Last year our PGs were Elfrid and Derrick. 

Lately it's been Burks & Quickley. 

I have a vision of Dawg in chains, puckering up. 

"Okay, Elfrid, but only one, 'ya bum." 

[chipstern]

Wouldn't Rajon Rondo have made a world of sense in a Knick uniform? 

[carlos123]

Wouldn't Rajon Rondo have made a world of sense in a Knick uniform?

Sure, and how about Patty Mills? He is doing a damn good job for the fucking Nyets. Also, he is 33, but tough as nails and durable. One could think he is 25. I do not know how Pops let him leave SanAn.

[carlos123]

What happened to Draymond? He played a grand total of 7 seconds.

OTOH, Klay returned. 17 points in 20 minutes, not too shabby after a 2-year absence.

"- Rest in peace, Ashley Babbitt 1/6/21 -" Chamaco Cartero The Moron.
(Chamaco, you may also want to commemorate 4/30/45 if you know what that date is)
"- Rest in peace, Chamaco's Intelligence. It never existed anyway -" Me

[kidcarter8]

12.1 PER for Mills, who clearly preferred Brooklyn


It will be interesting to see if he holds up with the minutes played

[bodiddley]

NYK knew that Rose and Kemba would likely miss time.
We have two young PG's in IQ and McBride.
I'd play them.  Tell IQ to look to set guys up and run the team more than look for his own shot.
With Julius playing Point-PF to assist IQ.  Starting PG reps would help IQ expand his game.
Burks at PG is useless in so many ways.  I'd rather use the missed time to develop the yute.  Looking a few years down the road rather than caring about the 8th or 9th seed this year.

[kidcarter8]

 Knicks will surely move for a veteran PG soon.  The possibility of Rose and Walker both missing a playoff series is just too great.  And winning a series (and beyond)  is the goal.  not just making the East Ten

[Kam]

With Fournier out yesterday was a made for NY draft kings LOCK.  Should've bet the Celtics.