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« Reply #23385 on: April 19, 2022, 05:34:55 AM »

Generally, I will begin my daily Knicks obsession by Googling KNICKS NEWS.

The Rumor/Conjecture Mill grinds on.

Berman promulgating the Knicks/Leon Rose's ongoing interest in Donovan Mitchell and Jalen Brunson. 

K

Another source, which at first glance appeared legit, but upon cursory perusal turned out to be in the outer reaches of Wackamole.

For your giggles, I pass it along to y'all.

Knicks send out Kemba Walker and Julius Randle.

Charlotte sends back Gordon Hayward.

[Cough]

Hayward and pick 13 would make me think about it.

Hahaha

Of course you would.

This from the same GM who obsessed about saving two guaranteed years of 30 year old Evan Fournier's contract at roughly 18-19 million to take on two years guaranteed of the 32 year old Hayward at 30-31 million. 

In the past five years, Hayward has appeared in

1

72

52

44

49 games

In order to get out from under Julius Randle's contract, you would freeze 60 million dollars through 2024 on a player who has missed close to 40% of regular season games.

Rock on, dude.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23386 on: April 19, 2022, 12:24:34 PM »

There are twenty ten year players in this draft. I think two of them would help the Knicks more than having just one.
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« Reply #23387 on: April 19, 2022, 12:40:43 PM »

There are twenty ten year players in this draft. I think two of them would help the Knicks more than having just one.

Fac, what is a ten year player?
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Re: Uh?
« Reply #23388 on: April 19, 2022, 02:48:38 PM »

There are twenty ten year players in this draft. I think two of them would help the Knicks more than having just one.

Fac, what is a ten year player?

Presumably a player good for a productive ten year stretch in the league. 
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« Reply #23389 on: April 19, 2022, 03:21:41 PM »

Miles McBride, PG [21]

Quentin Grimes, SG/SF [21]

RJ Barrett, SG/SF [21]

Feron Hunt, SF/PF [22]

Immanuel Quickley, PG/SG [22]

Cam Reddish, SF/PF [22]

Jericho Sims, C [23]

Mitchell Robinson, C [24]

Obi Toppin, PF/C [24] 

Julius Randle, PF/C [27] 

That's ten young players.

Even assuming Mitchell is a goner and Julius is old[er], that makes 8 players under the age of 24. 

Rokas Jokubaitis, PG, was drafted at #34, two spots ahead of McBride, and he will be 22 in November.  So presumably the Knicks have some plans for him. 

That makes ELEVEN Young players. 

So where exactly are you going to slot in that extra draft pick, Fac? 

The Knicks traded their #19 pick to Charlotte, and packaged the 2022 pick they were supposed to get back [if Charlotte finhsed out of the Bottom 18] with Kevin Knox to get back Cam Reddish.  Someone in the Knicks hierarchy thought quite a lot of Reddish's upside. 

And we got Jericho Sims with the #58 pick, harvested from Philly in the multi team trade which shipped out Austin Rivers. 

SO IT AIN'T JUST ABOUT Stockpiling #1 picks.  Although, yes, great assets to accumulate, and we spent one to dump Knox and turn him into Reddish. 

The argument that there are multiple TEN YEAR players in this draft is neither here nor there, if there isn't even room on the roster for them, let alone for them to fight their way into Thibs rotation. 

Remains to be seen how Neon Leon & Company reshuffle. 

Joakim Noah comes off the books this summer.  So that's 6.4 million to play with, and the different middle class excepitions.

But no cap space until the summer of 2023. 

Kemba in on his way out for sure. 

But Julius?  Rose?  Fournier?  Burks?  Noel?  Are any of them in play?

Do we make a fair offer to Mitchell?  Or is he dangled in a sign and trade? 

Do we make a run at Brunson?  Do we have a shot?  Would have to be some kind of sign and trade, as we lack cap space until next summer.  CANNOT FATHOM HOW DALLAS LETS HIM WALK. 

So any and all trade projections from the logical to the absurd, are pretty much on ice.  We have no idea who is in play, who we might draft, or if we even keep our #1 pick. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23390 on: April 19, 2022, 08:53:57 PM »

Lets go you HAWKS!!!
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« Reply #23391 on: April 19, 2022, 08:56:13 PM »

Miles McBride, PG [21]

Quentin Grimes, SG/SF [21]

RJ Barrett, SG/SF [21]

Feron Hunt, SF/PF [22]

Immanuel Quickley, PG/SG [22]

Cam Reddish, SF/PF [22]

Jericho Sims, C [23]

Mitchell Robinson, C [24]

Obi Toppin, PF/C [24] 

Julius Randle, PF/C [27] 

That's ten young players.

Even assuming Mitchell is a goner and Julius is old[er], that makes 8 players under the age of 24. 

Rokas Jokubaitis, PG, was drafted at #34, two spots ahead of McBride, and he will be 22 in November.  So presumably the Knicks have some plans for him. 

That makes ELEVEN Young players. 

So where exactly are you going to slot in that extra draft pick, Fac? 

The Knicks traded their #19 pick to Charlotte, and packaged the 2022 pick they were supposed to get back [if Charlotte finhsed out of the Bottom 18] with Kevin Knox to get back Cam Reddish.  Someone in the Knicks hierarchy thought quite a lot of Reddish's upside. 

And we got Jericho Sims with the #58 pick, harvested from Philly in the multi team trade which shipped out Austin Rivers. 

SO IT AIN'T JUST ABOUT Stockpiling #1 picks.  Although, yes, great assets to accumulate, and we spent one to dump Knox and turn him into Reddish. 

The argument that there are multiple TEN YEAR players in this draft is neither here nor there, if there isn't even room on the roster for them, let alone for them to fight their way into Thibs rotation. 

Remains to be seen how Neon Leon & Company reshuffle. 

Joakim Noah comes off the books this summer.  So that's 6.4 million to play with, and the different middle class excepitions.

But no cap space until the summer of 2023. 

Kemba in on his way out for sure. 

But Julius?  Rose?  Fournier?  Burks?  Noel?  Are any of them in play?

Do we make a fair offer to Mitchell?  Or is he dangled in a sign and trade? 

Do we make a run at Brunson?  Do we have a shot?  Would have to be some kind of sign and trade, as we lack cap space until next summer.  CANNOT FATHOM HOW DALLAS LETS HIM WALK. 

So any and all trade projections from the logical to the absurd, are pretty much on ice.  We have no idea who is in play, who we might draft, or if we even keep our #1 pick.

ON ICE?  Sure.  Make mine a Kettle One.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23392 on: April 19, 2022, 10:21:11 PM »

Lets go you HAWKS!!!

Jimmy FUCKING Butler
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« Reply #23393 on: April 19, 2022, 10:26:55 PM »

Lets go you HAWKS!!!

Jimmy FUCKING Butler

Love it.  Looks like it was a fun game.
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« Reply #23394 on: April 20, 2022, 12:09:18 AM »

Lets go you HAWKS!!!

It is certainly turning into a delightful series. More of the same please!
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« Reply #23395 on: April 20, 2022, 12:17:47 AM »

Rose, Burks, and Taj provide vet leadership.

Kemba and Noel are dead roster spots, completely unplayable.

Jules and Ev put up numbers but are underwhelming in their overall play on the court.

Keep the first set. Eat the next two. See what the market is for the last two as they still should have some value.
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« Reply #23396 on: April 20, 2022, 12:43:52 AM »

Rose, Burks, and Taj provide vet leadership.

Kemba and Noel are dead roster spots, completely unplayable.

Jules and Ev put up numbers but are underwhelming in their overall play on the court.

Keep the first set. Eat the next two. See what the market is for the last two as they still should have some value.

Fair enough.

But still, no reason to.have a yard sale for Julius or Evan.  They are talented players, and at the very least, Neon Leon needs to gague the temperature of the market. 
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« Reply #23397 on: April 20, 2022, 07:30:21 AM »

Knicks send out Kemba Walker and Julius Randle.

Charlotte sends back Gordon Hayward.



We already have a Hayward.
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« Reply #23398 on: April 20, 2022, 07:50:39 AM »

Do we make a run at Brunson?  Do we have a shot?  Would have to be some kind of sign and trade, as we lack cap space until next summer.  CANNOT FATHOM HOW DALLAS LETS HIM WALK.


Sad tale.  Dallas has to pay Bertans and Dinwiddie a combined 34 mil - to have gotten rid of the Latvian Loser.

No $$ to keep the required Brunson.

Now - they will try to deal Davis and Spencer, but.......

Dinwiddie a Knick?  For  #1?   Who is in?  (18, then 19 mil - 2 years)
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« Reply #23399 on: April 20, 2022, 07:56:22 AM »

Dinwiddie 12-30, 1-10, 14-20 this playoffs.  14 assists, 7 turnovers
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