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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[elephant]

Julius remains the dilemma. Many Knick fans seem to hate the dude after his bouts of public sulking and acrimony.


Such silliness

Read Thibodeaux for signs on how any of that affected the team.

It's about Juilius's on court production and how he gets along with everyone in the team room.  Sulking?  Heck - shows how much he cares.  I bet you Harden detractors would love to see James show some of that caring in his body language.  You hate the "who cares? look.  But when someone cares -outwardly - you hate this too.

No. And yes..

No. That shit was real. There were several times on court when I saw him give up on the moment, stop hustling in frustration, just extremely poor leadership. I suspect Lester could provide plenty of examples.

But yes. That wasn't the norm. It was him at his worse. He does seem to care. And I've never seen anything suggesting he doesn't have the respect and affection of his teammates.

[kidcarter8]

DEALS WITH ROSE

Rose makes  14.5 million, so you need to add another  9.7 million in salary to make the deal work.

Here are a few combinations of young players that can work under NBA trade rules

 Rose, Cam Reddish and Obi Toppin

 Rose, Toppin, Immanuel Quickley and Grimes

 Rose, Reddish, Quickley and Grimes


DEALS WITH FOURNIER

Fournier makes  18 million, so you need to add another  6.2 million to make a trade work under NBA rules.

Here are a few combinations of young players plus Fournier that work

 Fournier, Reddish and Grimes

 Fournier, Reddish and Quickley

 Fournier, Reddish and Miles McBride

 Fournier, Toppin plus any one of the players mentioned above



https://www.sny.tv/articles/knicks-notes-trade-package-for-donovan-mitchell

[chipstern]

DEALS WITH ROSE

Rose makes  14.5 million, so you need to add another  9.7 million in salary to make the deal work.

Here are a few combinations of young players that can work under NBA trade rules

 Rose, Cam Reddish and Obi Toppin

 Rose, Toppin, Immanuel Quickley and Grimes

 Rose, Reddish, Quickley and Grimes


DEALS WITH FOURNIER

Fournier makes  18 million, so you need to add another  6.2 million to make a trade work under NBA rules.

Here are a few combinations of young players plus Fournier that work

 Fournier, Reddish and Grimes

 Fournier, Reddish and Quickley

 Fournier, Reddish and Miles McBride

 Fournier, Toppin plus any one of the players mentioned above

https://www.sny.tv/articles/knicks-notes-trade-package-for-donovan-mitchell

With all due respect to the estimable Donovan Mitchell, and a modicum of respect to The Prophet Kiid

But FUCK EACH AND EVERY ONE of these one-sided, absurdly weighted DEALS. 

Nyets have asked Miami for Bam.

Nyets have asked Tornoto for Scotty Barnes. 

Their response was in keeping with the Knicks response to Ainge. 

FUCK U

[facilitatorn]

Fournier, Rose, Quickley. All players that make up Mitchells minutes. Our 2024 and 2026 unprotected, Dallas 2023, Washington 2023, and either a pick swap in 2025 or the rights to Rokas.

Last best offer that causes me no tears if Ainge turns down.

What team has a better offer that they are willing to make?

I do not see much competition from the rest of the market.

[kidcarter8]

DEALS WITH ROSE

Rose makes  14.5 million, so you need to add another  9.7 million in salary to make the deal work.

Here are a few combinations of young players that can work under NBA trade rules

 Rose, Cam Reddish and Obi Toppin

 Rose, Toppin, Immanuel Quickley and Grimes

 Rose, Reddish, Quickley and Grimes


DEALS WITH FOURNIER

Fournier makes  18 million, so you need to add another  6.2 million to make a trade work under NBA rules.

Here are a few combinations of young players plus Fournier that work

 Fournier, Reddish and Grimes

 Fournier, Reddish and Quickley

 Fournier, Reddish and Miles McBride

 Fournier, Toppin plus any one of the players mentioned above

https://www.sny.tv/articles/knicks-notes-trade-package-for-donovan-mitchell

With all due respect to the estimable Donovan Mitchell, and a modicum of respect to The Prophet Kiid

But FUCK EACH AND EVERY ONE of these one-sided, absurdly weighted DEALS. 

Nyets have asked Miami for Bam.

Nyets have asked Tornoto for Scotty Barnes. 

Their response was in keeping with the Knicks response to Ainge. 

FUCK U

Yeah man - I like Fournier too

[kidcarter8]

Fournier, Rose, Quickley. All players that make up Mitchells minutes. Our 2024 and 2026 unprotected, Dallas 2023, Washington 2023, and either a pick swap in 2025 or the rights to Rokas.

Last best offer that causes me no tears if Ainge turns down.

What team has a better offer that they are willing to make?

I do not see much competition from the rest of the market.

There is very little future value in this offer - unless they could reroute Fournier.

Its basically Quickley and a bunch of late draft tickets

[facilitatorn]

No guarantee we would be any good in 24 or 26. But basically, yeah. And they get a long term commitment to the most prolific three point shooter over a season for our franchise. Is not that worth something? And a former now rejuvenated MVP. I do not think another team is going to sell Ainge on a sweeter deal.

[kidcarter8]

Brooklyn

I cant believe what I am about to say, Windhorst began, laughing.  The Brooklyn Nets have had a good off season. In a vacuum, they have gotten healthier. They have added supporting pieces. There  is optimism Ben Simmons is going to be better. And I think looking at the menu of options, the Nets are kinda like,  Kyrie, Kevin, take a look here.  What I will say is nobody knows what Kevin Durant is thinking right now. His communication with teammates and others in the league has been sparse. I dont even think that the Nets have a 100 percent understanding of why Kevin asked for a trade.  He spoke to the owner in Joe Tsai, but I am not sure that the Nets are 100 percent on the understanding of it. I think really that the next step in this, barring a teams change of heart to meet the Nets price  which I dont see at this point in the calendar  I think we are going to have to hear from Kevin Durant about how open he is to running it back with the Nets. So here we go, as everyone breaks for the summer, waiting for that to happen

[chipstern]

Nyets' Sean Marks not quite as all fired goofy as Ainge, but still...

Asking Bam from the Heat?

Scottie Barnes from the Raptors? 

Presumably, the Full Monty [Wiggins, Wiseman, Moody, Kuminga] from the Warriors? 

No...SALE. 

Phoenix wasn't going to trade Booker, hell, trade Bridges, and they just matched Ayton's max offer, so who?  Where?  HOW?

Durant is signed for what, FOUR More YEARS with the Nyets, at 44-47-51-54 million.  Is he going to stay home and not get paid?  As much as likes money, let alone how much he loves basketball. 

A full season with Kyrie and Ben, Claxton and Cam, Joe and Seth, Patty Mills and TJ Warren? 

That's a championship contender, no? 

Get over yourself, Kevin. 

PS: My reading of the Warriors is that they could give two shits about KD, kind thoughts and words notwithstanding.  Andrew Wiggins ain't Durant, but he is just starting to peak and is all of 27.  Did any of you see James Wiseman play in Summer League.  DAMN.  He has it all--size, agillity, an inside and outside game, offensive and defensive prowess, and is all of 21.  Moody, Kuminga, Poole, Looney.  That's a young and very young core to build on for the next decade.  Tough Titties, Kevin.   

[kidcarter8]

Knicks get Mitchell


Let's go!!!!!!!!!!

[kidcarter8]

Get over yourself, Kevin.


Durant's a pro.

He will be fine running it back (and down our throats)

[chipstern]

Knicks get Mitchell


Let's go!!!!!!!!!!

And your source for this is WHAT?

[kidcarter8]

A midget named Harry.

[chipstern]

A midget named Harry.

Heard from a reliable source that Knicks are finalizing a three team trade with Utah and LA for Donovan Mitchell and Bojan Bogdonavic. Utah receives 6 FRP Quentin Grimes and Russell Westbrook

Lakers receive Julius Randle Evan Fournier Derrick Rose and a chopped cheese

Apparently [purportedly] these "reports" are all emenating out of Utah.

[kidcarter8]

Minutes for Reddish.....