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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[chipstern]

Anyhow, I'm in positive pussy mode.

Brunson is fabulous. Reddish is surprising and delighting. Grimes and IQ seem to be reemerging. We're getting awfully competitive. Even some signs that the defense is getting stronger.

Think we're coming along.

Sure...PP.   

Save the defense has a ways to go. 

And we need to spread the looks around better.

RJ & Jalen played well, but it's not like other teams don't know where the ball is going. 

Cam & Quentin need more looks, for starters. 

And Thibs needs to find more opportunities for Julius to attack the rack.  Every time he makes one three, it encourages him to launch four more.  Not his area of strength. 

[kidcarter8]

Grimes with a healthy 7.3 PER.  Not sure what you all are seeing.

Is he a benefit to play 25 minutes if he gets his shooting up to 40/30/75?

Knicks PER - SVI on top

1   Svi Mykhailiuk   25   5   13   27.2   1.157   1.000   1.000   0.0   24.5   12.1   0.0   0.0   0.0   18.8   17.1      0.0   0.0   0.0   .123      12.1   1.5   13.5   0.1
2   Jalen Brunson   26   20   663   21.9   .596   .274   .343   1.4   10.1   5.7   32.3   1.6   0.4   8.5   25.1      2.2   0.3   2.5   .181      4.0   -0.3   3.8   1.0
3   Jericho Sims   24   14   202   19.3   .755   .000   .263   16.5   18.4   17.4   4.1   1.2   6.8   12.4   10.0      0.6   0.2   0.9   .202      0.0   0.7   0.7   0.1
4   Mitchell Robinson   24   12   259   19.0   .697   .000   .500   14.8   14.3   14.6   4.9   0.9   9.6   9.0   10.8      0.7   0.3   1.0   .186      0.1   1.4   1.5   0.2
5   Julius Randle   28   20   661   17.9   .584   .406   .413   7.1   20.7   13.8   15.4   1.2   0.6   14.1   25.9      0.9   0.5   1.4   .104      1.8   -1.0   0.8   0.5
6   Isaiah Hartenstein   24   20   450   15.1   .586   .175   .194   13.9   19.3   16.6   4.8   1.7   4.5   13.9   12.0      0.7   0.5   1.2   .127      -1.3   0.1   -1.2   0.1
7   Immanuel Quickley   23   20   453   14.0   .520   .494   .281   2.5   18.3   10.3   19.6   2.5   0.6   12.2   18.8      0.3   0.5   0.8   .084      -1.0   1.0   0.0   0.2
8   Derrick Rose   34   18   236   13.9   .507   .388   .086   3.1   10.8   6.9   23.4   1.0   1.9   11.7   24.1      0.0   0.1   0.2   .032      0.7   -1.5   -0.8   0.1
9   Obi Toppin   24   20   354   13.1   .543   .551   .075   4.1   18.6   11.3   8.8   1.2   1.3   10.1   19.9      0.1   0.3   0.4   .058      0.0   -1.1   -1.1   0.1
10   Cam Reddish   23   17   397   12.0   .577   .408   .232   1.8   6.1   4.0   6.4   1.8   1.9   7.4   15.6      0.4   0.2   0.6   .078      -1.3   -0.1   -1.4   0.1
11   RJ Barrett   22   20   695   11.3   .497   .340   .304   2.8   13.7   8.2   13.2   0.7   0.3   11.0   25.1      -0.3   0.3   0.0   .002      -1.8   -2.5   -4.3   -0.4
12   Miles McBride   22   9   54   7.6   .414   .450   .200   0.0   3.9   1.9   18.3   2.7   0.0   4.4   17.6      0.0   0.0   0.0   -0.007      -5.6   0.3   -5.3   0.0
13   Quentin Grimes   22   10   164   7.3   .480   .605   .093   2.5   10.4   6.4   16.2   0.9   1.7   13.5   13.2      0.0   0.1   0.1   .023      -3.4   -0.7   -4.1   -0.1
14   Evan Fournier   30   13   260   6.8   .474   .633   .122   0.8   10.2   5.5   11.5   1.7   1.1   12.9   17.4      -0.2   0.2   -0.1   -0.010      -3.7   -0.3   -4.0   -0.1
15   Ryan Arcidiacono   28   5   14   1.8   .000   .667   .000   0.0   15.2   7.5   8.4   6.8   0.0   0.0   8.9      -0.1   0.0   0.0   -0.084      -11.5   6.1   -5.4   0.0
16   Trevor Keels   19   1   1   -26.0   .000   1.000   .000   0.0   100.0   52.5   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   41.7      0.0   0.0   0.0   -0.811      -36.1   -8.6   -44.7   0.0

[kidcarter8]

Cam & Quentin need more looks, for starters.

And Thibs needs to find more opportunities for Julius to attack the rack.  Every time he makes one three, it encourages him to launch four more.  Not his area of strength.




- we got the guy we wanted/needed.  But is Brunson a bit of a ball hog?

[facilitatorn]

Our PG is by at least decent and serviceable as a starter. All our Bigs are scratch or better. We have three young wings who have to grow into their roles.

Hard to say exactly what gets a player the trust of this coaching staff and head coach.

[kidcarter8]

I am ready for a little lineup shift once Cam gets back. I think he and Rose were questionable last night.

Mitch Sims
Randle Obi
Cam RJ
Grimes IQ
Brunson McBride

If anyone breaks down, you have a worse athlete but a good shooter and smart player to step up in Hartenstein, Fournier, Svi, Archi, and Rose.

I'd like to see RJ in the second unit too. Never thought he was a great fit with Randle.

Can we do this, given his new salary?

[elephant]

- we got the guy we wanted/needed.  But is Brunson a bit of a ball hog?

Naw.

He's just good. Unafraid of the moment.

But the lack of ball movement towards the end of the game has long been a Knicks problem. Needs fixing.

[elephant]

I am ready for a little lineup shift once Cam gets back. I think he and Rose were questionable last night.

Mitch Sims
Randle Obi
Cam RJ
Grimes IQ
Brunson McBride

If anyone breaks down, you have a worse athlete but a good shooter and smart player to step up in Hartenstein, Fournier, Svi, Archi, and Rose.

I'd like to see RJ in the second unit too. Never thought he was a great fit with Randle.

Can we do this, given his new salary?

Yes.

And if he thrives there (okay, okay, maybe I'm dreaming), he'll still get good minutes.

[kiidcarter8]

- we got the guy we wanted/needed.  But is Brunson a bit of a ball hog?

Naw.

He's just good. Unafraid of the moment.

But the lack of ball movement towards the end of the game has long been a Knicks problem. Needs fixing.

Brunson gets his assists when he can't get up a shot.  Not by design.  Better than a guy that can't pass at all - true

[chipstern]

Your main squeeze sleeps with the fishes.

Your secondary squeeze has been promoted. 

Feron Hunt?

Waived. 

DeQuan Jeffries?

Two Way Contract.

6'5" 230 lbs. 

Listed as SG, also as SF/PG. 

Hmmmm. 

December 15 coming.

Who might be going? 

[kidcarter8]

Nice job by Thibs tonight tightening rotation.

[chipstern]

Duh?

🙊🙉🙈

[elephant]

Mitch Sims
Randle Obi
Cam RJ
Grimes IQ
Brunson McBride

I keep coming back in my head to these 5 starters. Feels....strong, balanced. Love to see how they would actually blend together.

[elephant]

Nice job by Thibs tonight tightening rotation.

Sure, if we're playing Detroit every game, a tight rotation works well.

With everyone else?

Not so well.

[lesterluv]

- we got the guy we wanted/needed.  But is Brunson a bit of a ball hog?

Naw.

He's just good. Unafraid of the moment.

But the lack of ball movement towards the end of the game has long been a Knicks problem. Needs fixing.

Brunson gets his assists when he can't get up a shot.  Not by design.  Better than a guy that can't pass at all - true

Yep, I don't think this can be so quickly dismissed with a naw.

We can acknowledge and be grateful for his skills, confidence, efficiency, commend his ability to get 2-3 buckets in a row to stop an opposing run, but be aware that there may be limitations.

His job is to organize the offense.

When you have a whole bunch of guys who ain't hitting their shots, or getting the right ones, in a shocking three-point drought, from long timers like Fournier to youngsters like RJ or Obi, you have to at least glance in that direction as well as the players themselves and the coach.


*** still bewildered by DRose use if healthy, maybe just a long period to get sea legs back, heartened by the 25 minute run last night, want to start seeing him toward end games

[kidcarter8]

Nice job by Thibs tonight tightening rotation.

Sure, if we're playing Detroit every game, a tight rotation works well.

With everyone else?

Not so well.

Well no - he tightened it because we lost the big lead.  It was a horror.  You cant tell in the finals stats since starters were taken out so early.  Shame - Julius could have had 50.  Bernard gets the benefit of having played in close games when he got his 50/50.