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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

So Phoenix is reportedly on the hunt for a PG. Here is a way they could get one that would be beneficial to both teams. It works under the salary cap and fits with the idea that they need a pg badly now (though with Knight, the May have needed one badly before) and that they are acquiring vets for a playoff push.

Trey Burke and Courtney Lee for Daryl Aurthur and Mikal Bridges.

It gives them the services and bird rights for Burke along with Lee, another valuable 3&D vet to add to the vet group of Chandler, Ryno, and Ariza giving them a wing rotation of Ariza, Booker, Jackson, and Lee. Arthur wasn’t going to see time behind Ryno and TJ Warren so that’s no loss. The real cost is Mikal who was the fourth man in a group that needs a steady contributor more than another emerging talent.

Since we’re waiving JoNo anyway, we’ll wind up with

Kanter Robinson Kornet
Vonleh Aurthur  KP
Knox Hezonja Thomas
Hardaway Bridges Dotson
Frank Mudiay Baker

Kadeem Allen and Alonzo Trier remain on deck if Fizz wants more of a spark plug attacking guard.

It would be essentially leveraging Trey Burke to turn Courtney Lee into Mikal Bridges. 

[bodiddley]

Well, That's never happening.
If PHX somehow loved TB, we'd be lucky to extract TJ Warren.
Don't forget, Burke was on the scrap heap a year ago, and still only projects as a dangerous scoring backup PG, if he can replicate high efficiency on tough midrange J's.

But Burke is not really an orchestrator and is ball dominant.  Would be terrible next to Booker.  Both like to handle, get their own shot and are defenseless.  They are not giving up a late lottery pick for a shrimpy backup PG who would give them the worst defensive backcourt.  I like when people look for creative trades, but that seems awfully one-sided for NYK.

One interesting option for PHX is Pa Bev.
He's a defensive menace, can hit open 3's (a 3&D PG), and can run the offense enough, while allowing DevBook to do much of the playmaking.  Pa Bev is also one of 3 PG's LAC has.  Shai and Teodesic can fill the PG position.   So they don't really need an aging and ending PaBev. 

[kiidcarter8]

So Phoenix is reportedly on the hunt for a PG. Here is a way they could get one that would be beneficial to both teams. It works under the salary cap and fits with the idea that they need a pg badly now (though with Knight, the May have needed one badly before) and that they are acquiring vets for a playoff push.

Trey Burke and Courtney Lee for Daryl Aurthur and Mikal Bridges.

It gives them the services and bird rights for Burke along with Lee, another valuable 3&D vet to add to the vet group of Chandler, Ryno, and Ariza giving them a wing rotation of Ariza, Booker, Jackson, and Lee. Arthur wasn’t going to see time behind Ryno and TJ Warren so that’s no loss. The real cost is Mikal who was the fourth man in a group that needs a steady contributor more than another emerging talent.

Since we’re waiving JoNo anyway, we’ll wind up with

Kanter Robinson Kornet
Vonleh Aurthur  KP
Knox Hezonja Thomas
Hardaway Bridges Dotson
Frank Mudiay Baker

Kadeem Allen and Alonzo Trier remain on deck if Fizz wants more of a spark plug attacking guard.

It would be essentially leveraging Trey Burke to turn Courtney Lee into Mikal Bridges.

When they say they want a PG they probably dont mean a Trey Burke

They just let Elfrid Payton go.

I think there are stronger teams that have a third PG that Suns might pry away - OR ......as I said - Jarret Jack, Ramon Sessions, Jameer Nelson route.  Tyler Ennis also rexently made available.

Too bad they missed on Calderon.  He was perfect as a leader but maybe not for how they want to play

[facilitatorn]

I’m curious to see what Phoenix ultimately gets and what they give up for it. They may go the UFA route if they can’t deal for a player they like more.

I’m ok going into camp with what we’ve got and then going into the season with the best of that.

[kiidcarter8]

I think Okobo can be their starter at some point this year.  And Canaan is underrated.  Nelson makes sense, if he wants it.

Does anyone have Ty Lawson yet?

[facilitatorn]

I didn’t see anything about Lawson, but Jack, Sessions, and Nelson are all still available.

[thebizneverloses]

Given the Serbian connection (Kokoskov), I could see: Milos Teodosic & Boban Marjanovic for Tyson Chandler & Richaun Holmes & Phoenix's next available second rounder.

[kiidcarter8]

Kind of like the new look Clips

But I think Marjanovic is better than Chandler at this point.

[Kam]

We were supposedly waiving Joakim Noah on Sept 1...

[chipstern]

We were supposedly waiving Joakim Noah on Sept 1...

Hmmmmmmmm....

Would still rather keep him, as remote a possibility though that might be.  Why gift him to the T-Wolves when he could help mentor our bigs, and inculcate a defensive mindset? 

Courtly still a Knick as well. 

We shall see what happens after Labor Day.  Training camp breaks on September 24. 

[kiidcarter8]

Distinction was between pre 9/1 and post 9/1

EXACTLY on 9/1 is not an issue.

[carlos123]

Distinction was between pre 9/1 and post 9/1

EXACTLY on 9/1 is not an issue.

Deep AND Profound.

EXACTLY on 9/3.

[kiiidcarter8]

You guys keep putting Robinson on the 12/15.  I am telling you - he will be G League when we tip in October.

[Kam]

Financially we could cut him in early 2019 and it wouldn't make a difference to the tax/cap/apron from cutting him yesterday.

SO the question must be asked... why is he still on the roster?

So far one explanation is to make training camp more competitive.... since if we open up the roster spot before camp maybe nobody feels the urgency to compete.

That's the best explanation so far.  Open to other theories.


And i find that explanation unsatisfying.  What if he injures someone during camp?

[facilitatorn]

The flip side of that is what if one or more of our ambulatory bigs gets hurt. Then we may want to keep and play Noah, at least to start the year.

If we’re not trying to add someone, there is no urgency to cut Noah before camp.

Robinson may see plenty of GLeague time, but it will come as he holds his roster spot similar to Dotson last year. His rim protection, rim running, and finishing will keep him on the 12 man group and get him on the floor as early and often as possible.