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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2325 on: November 27, 2018, 03:39:21 PM »

Dotson's contract-to-actual value is much higher than Mario's.  Hence the interest from other teams. 

Nobody knockin on our door for Mario.
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« Reply #2326 on: November 27, 2018, 03:44:29 PM »

If we were gonna do one of these type of things, I would rather have done it for Butler.
He's an assh^^e who likes to win. We badly need one of those. Plus he can play small forward.  I'm far less confident in Knox becoming a useful player than I am say of Frankie. We have no particular shortage of guards who can do something with the rock. I even like that Courtney Lee fellow. Quite a lot.
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« Reply #2327 on: November 27, 2018, 03:46:14 PM »

And Mario is Scott Perry's little Pinocchio.  His maker wishing him to become a real boy.
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« Reply #2328 on: November 27, 2018, 03:47:41 PM »

If we were gonna do one of these of type things, I would rather have done it for Butler.
He's an assh^^e who likes to win. We badly need one of those. Plus he can play small forward.  I'm far less confident in Knox becoming a useful player than I am say of Frankie. We have no particular shortage of guards who can do something with the rock. I even like that Courtney Lee fellow. Quite a lot.

You're not gonna win much with Timmy as your second best player.
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« Reply #2329 on: November 27, 2018, 03:49:23 PM »

Exactly. That's why I woulda been happy to ship him out in a Butler trade.
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« Reply #2330 on: November 27, 2018, 04:08:08 PM »

Or a Beal trade.

Wolves got Covington and Saric and a 2nd rounder
That's better than what we could have offered.

Datsun and Tryer largely overlap.
So one is expendable.
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« Reply #2331 on: November 27, 2018, 05:17:56 PM »

None of our bigs are currently expendable.

It looks like Fizz wants to play Lance and Knox at power forward more than small forward. Mario seems to be full time small forward. Frank, Lee, and Dotson can cover small forwards. Of those Dotson and Frank can probably cover bigger ones better and provide more rebounding. Frank still needs to find his offense.

Hardaway is the starting SG. Trier is behind him. Frank, Lee, and Dotson do as well here, if not better, as they do at SF. Knox and Mario can see stretches possibly as well. I’d actually rather have Hardaway on the rest of his deal than Beal on the rest of his. This looks like a good draft to get a defensive freak with offensive potential at SF in the mid lottery, if Knox or Mario aren’t making strides in that direction by the spring. Pairing Tim with defensive SFs and Mudiay, Trier, or Frank gives solid enough perimeter D and tougher D with Dotson.

Hardaway plus Dotson at next year’s salaries is a pretty hard tandem to beat in next year’s market. I guess I thank Phil for that.



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« Reply #2332 on: November 27, 2018, 05:35:46 PM »

Hardaway isn't as good as Beal is and it's no small gap.  You can save money on a cheaper tandem but you could keep Trier and trade for Beal and be better.
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We don't have a center
« Reply #2333 on: November 27, 2018, 05:45:59 PM »

So we have to keep Kanter?

At what price are you paying to keep Enes next season?
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« Reply #2334 on: November 27, 2018, 06:25:08 PM »

Washington has only 13 big league contracts right now, so they can absorb 2 spots.

Hardaway, Thomas, Kornet, plus Dot for Beal & Jason Smith. Kornet would have to agree. It saves them money, about 16 mil next year, bringing them under the cap at least to start and likely keeping them under the tax entirely.

We’d have

Kanter Mitch Smith
Vonleh  KP
Mario Knox Lee
Beal Trier Frank
Mudiay Burke Baker

We’d either want to promote Hicks and find two more two-ways (Jenkins and ???) or find a free range PF.

Unlikely, but it may work for both teams

Howard Mahimi Bryant
Morris Green Kornet
Porter Oubre Thomas
Hardaway Dotson Brown
Wall Satoransky Rivers
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« Reply #2335 on: November 27, 2018, 06:37:19 PM »

So we have to keep Kanter?

At what price are you paying to keep Enes next season?

I’d open with an offer of 10 mil a year for 5.

We DO have a center and, Chip, I’m NOT toying with the idea of becoming a POSITIVE PUSSY. I’m one, and it’s official.

And if Washington wants to trade Beal, then fine, they can have Lee and Baker or even THJ and Baker but no picks and no Enes. Maybe a second rounder if they insist.
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« Reply #2336 on: November 27, 2018, 06:45:58 PM »

Hardaway, Thomas, Kornet, plus Dot for Beal & Jason Smith. Kornet would have to agree. It saves them money, about 16 mil next year, bringing them under the cap at least to start and likely keeping them under the tax entirely.

That'd be a great deal for us.
Basically Tim & Dot for Beal while only having to take on Jason Smith.
Overall, it's plausible, but I think Wiz could do better.
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Re: We DO have a center
« Reply #2337 on: November 27, 2018, 07:19:22 PM »

So we have to keep Kanter?

At what price are you paying to keep Enes next season?

I’d open with an offer of 10 mil a year for 5.

Way too high.  Who are we bidding against?
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« Reply #2338 on: November 27, 2018, 07:23:49 PM »

I'd guess Enes gets somewhere between 4mil and 8mil on his next deal.  Maybe a one year deal with the remainder of some team's cap room.
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« Reply #2339 on: November 27, 2018, 07:59:53 PM »

So we have to keep Kanter?

At what price are you paying to keep Enes next season?

I’d open with an offer of 10 mil a year for 5.

Way too high.  Who are we bidding against?

The rest of the league.

10 may be too high, but 4 is way too low.
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