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Re: Knicks
« Reply #3705 on: January 24, 2019, 10:46:29 AM »

Well, caught the last 3 mins.
Didn't realize the game was on Chinese Tv.
But got home too late for most of the replay.

Fun stuff.
Trier must've scored 8+ in the last 2 mins.
Fizz got worried we might win and get T'd up to help HOU.
Mud was erratic -- you could never tell if he was going to turn it over or score or get fouled or foul somebody.  He wasn't passing though.

Two oddball plays.  After a made Trier FT, HOU inbounds the ball, and for some reason PJ Tuck thinks he can't touch it.  Gifting the Knix a possession/layup.  Absolutely bizarre.  Where was his mind?
Friar Tuck also missed a late corner 3 and got burned by Trier for a layup. 

The other peculiar play was the Knix inbounding to Vonleh with 8 secs left, and he decides to dribble towards mid-court and Harden steals the ball easily.  Sure sometimes you have to inbound into a Big, but he needs to get the ball to a playmaker (Mud or Trier or Tim) rather quickly.

Anyway, it was a fun last 3 mins even if the Knix basically only iso-ed Mud or Trier.  Mitch's block of Harden's late 3 was quite nice.  Length.
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« Reply #3706 on: January 24, 2019, 11:31:14 AM »

Knicks, again, much better with Frank on the floor than Mudiay. Nice passing. Very fine defense. Inexplicable that he wasn't out there for the last two key defensive possessions. Unless winning is not the goal. You can imagine him as part of a winning lineup. Mudiay, still, not so much.

I thought Frank really made a difference on the defensive end, and the Knicks made runs when he entered the game in both the 1st and 3rd. But, as Breen says, he has to start hitting some of his shots.
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« Reply #3707 on: January 24, 2019, 11:33:04 AM »

Siakam looks pretty terrific.  Took a leap form last year's strong showing.
TOR can court a defense of Lowry - Green - Kawhi - Siakam - Ibaka.
I should check if they've used that, but sure sounds formidable.

That's their normal starting lineup, one they tend to use whenever everyone is dressed.

Siakam leader so far for MIP and a darkhorse all-star candidate.



They don't need Kant.
They have WCS, Bagley3, Bjelica as their Bigs.
Will Kant be happy there backing up WCS?

Additionally there is Giles who
shares the back-up 5 minutes with Koufos (MB3/Bjely tend to play 4). So even less need for Kanter. They need a wing stopper, hence the talk of Otto Porter (but the Wizards wanted more than the expirings, which is all the Kings wanted to offer).



With all the injuries, maybe HOU should have held on to Melo for a few more weeks(!) 
If he gets a next team, who?  NOPe?  DET?  PHI?  UTA?  LBJ?

All good suggestions, although maybe Utah is not really an option barring a trade. Portland is. I'll guess Philly.



After a made Trier FT, HOU inbounds the ball, and for some reason PJ Tuck thinks he can't touch it.  Gifting the Knix a possession/layup.  Absolutely bizarre.  Where was his mind?

I have no idea. It was one of the most bizarre plays of the season. Has there been an explanation?
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« Reply #3708 on: January 24, 2019, 12:01:53 PM »

I thought Frank really made a difference on the defensive end, and the Knicks made runs when he entered the game in both the 1st and 3rd. But, as Breen says, he has to start hitting some of his shots.

It surely would be nice. But honestly, his 0-5 doesn't hurt much in Fiz's  "Offense."

Not more than any five hardaway clanks. Or five mudiay fumbles.

And how much is our PG going to have to shoot next to Porz, Trier, [front line freeagent], [top 3 pick] [three point shooting big man]?

If that's the plan, he'll work out fine.
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« Reply #3709 on: January 24, 2019, 12:18:23 PM »

Knicks, again, much better with Frank on the floor than Mudiay. Nice passing. Very fine defense. Inexplicable that he wasn't out there for the last two key defensive possessions. Unless winning is not the goal. You can imagine him as part of a winning lineup. Mudiay, still, not so much.

I thought Frank really made a difference on the defensive end, and the Knicks made runs when he entered the game in both the 1st and 3rd. But, as Breen says, he has to start hitting some of his shots.

Its stupefying how he has regressed with his shot making.  It HAS to be an injury he is playing through. Otherwise.... ugh.  He needs to work on his ball handling skills all summer.  If he has to fix his shot also.... he has too far to go.
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« Reply #3710 on: January 24, 2019, 12:22:43 PM »



After a made Trier FT, HOU inbounds the ball, and for some reason PJ Tuck thinks he can't touch it.  Gifting the Knix a possession/layup.  Absolutely bizarre.  Where was his mind?

I have no idea. It was one of the most bizarre plays of the season. Has there been an explanation?

Procedure error.


After the free throw make PJ was supposed to be the inbounder.  So he knew his role was not to touch the ball first.  When E Gordon inbounded the ball instead... it threw him off.  In his mind he thought he was the guy who inbounded it so he can't be the first guy to touch it.

It is still a mistake to be sure... but we have seen this before:

Keenum threw a deep pass near the right sideline to Diggs, who made a leaping catch near the Saints' 35-yard line. Williams was in front of Diggs when he made the catch, but while trying to make a tackle, he completely missed Diggs and instead collided with Crawley, leaving the receiver with no one around him. Diggs nearly fell over at this point, but was able to stay on his feet by using his off-hand and stay in bounds as he ran all the way to the end zone for a 61-yard touchdown completion to give the Vikings a 29–24 win. After several minutes of pandemonium, the Vikings knelt on the extra point try to close out the victory.

Williams didn't hit Diggs because he was afraid of creating a pass interference penalty.   

In both instances the player actually is thinking but they are thinking about Procedure and not about the actual play right in front of their eyes.
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« Reply #3711 on: January 24, 2019, 01:17:27 PM »

Man, that is a bizarre rationale.
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« Reply #3712 on: January 24, 2019, 01:20:09 PM »

Bovada odds:

Where will Anthony Davis play Game 1 of next season?

Pelicans: +160
Lakers: +190
Celtics: +275
Knicks: +850
76ers: +850
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« Reply #3713 on: January 24, 2019, 02:32:35 PM »

This game was way too fast for Enes. He played exactly the right amount .

You think you beat the Rockets by playing a third-rate version of their game? Of course not. Huge advantdage to be seized with Capela out.

But thats why we haven't won a game since anybody can remember , and why we have the second worst record in the league.

Mission accomplished. And if that's not the mission, it means Fiz may be the worst coach in franchise history.
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« Reply #3714 on: January 24, 2019, 02:38:08 PM »

Bad roster for winning now, but a good one to develop. That has to be factored in.
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« Reply #3715 on: January 24, 2019, 02:46:18 PM »

No doubt...but make no mistake, there's a penalty you pay when "establishing a winning culture" is just a catch phrase, especially when lottery process has been significantly modified.
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« Reply #3716 on: January 24, 2019, 04:12:23 PM »

Man, that is a bizarre rationale.

If you keep telling yourself that you're the inbounder, not the guy to handle it, then when someone else inbounds it to you -- you might get brain lock.

There is no other rationale other than he had bet money on the Knicks to win.
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« Reply #3717 on: January 24, 2019, 04:44:10 PM »

Look at the replay from the under the basket camera.... PJ makes a little jump move after boxing out in order to go out of bounds to become the inbounder. But he cuts his jump short as Gordon beats him there and flips it to PJ as he is landing.  In that nanosecond PJ didn't flip the mental switch to being a ball handler (he shouldn't be handling the ball there anyway!) and looked at the inbounded ball as it bounced off the floor and raised his hands.


Quite obvious what PJ's thought process was there.
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« Reply #3718 on: January 24, 2019, 06:06:13 PM »

This game was way too fast for Enes. He played exactly the right amount .

You think you beat the Rockets by playing a third-rate version of their game? Of course not. Huge advantdage to be seized with Capela out.

But thats why we haven't won a game since anybody can remember , and why we have the second worst record in the league.

Mission accomplished. And if that's not the mission, it means Fiz may be the worst coach in franchise history.

Yeah, that game had 25-20 written all over it for EK.
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« Reply #3719 on: January 24, 2019, 06:08:58 PM »

Couldnt help ut think of Frank today when listening on NBA Radio:

"Guys got to be able to play.  Teams draft a 6-4 guy with a 6-9 wingspan.......GREAT.....but can the dude play???"

No wingspan on Jimmer

Just fucking points.
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