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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

Russ to the Heat w Jimmy Butler?

[kiidcarter8]

Marcus Morris 2-20 to Spurs

[kiidcarter8]

I just want to take a moment to acknowledge that Alonzo Trier dunked in the middle of an earthquake. That’s what you call locked in.

I think we should pick up Mozgov if he’s healthy so we have one exceptionally large body on the roster. Mitch is tall but not large. Julius and BP are large but not exceptionally so. It would be a minimum thing. All the better options just joined the Lakers.

D Howard available now for the minimum.

[Kam]

Russ to the Heat w Jimmy Butler?

I was thinking the same thought.

[PrezIke]

Russ to the Heat w Jimmy Butler?

I was thinking the same thought.

And one of the rumored teams

[thebizneverloses]

Mercifully, it's not possible until mid-season.

He makes $47 million in a couple of seasons. He's had knee issues. He's a terrible fit stylistically next to RJ Barrett. He can neither take a team far as the #1 option nor adjust his game to be a #2 option. Needless to say, I am firmly of the belief his acquisition would be mostly a terrible idea.

To clarify, that's where his salary tops out at in a couple of years. He's in the $38m range now. He's such a bad idea (sorry Carlos).

[thebizneverloses]

Marcus Morris 2-20 to Spurs

Deal of the summer.

[carlos123]

Mercifully, it's not possible until mid-season.

He makes $47 million in a couple of seasons. He's had knee issues. He's a terrible fit stylistically next to RJ Barrett. He can neither take a team far as the #1 option nor adjust his game to be a #2 option. Needless to say, I am firmly of the belief his acquisition would be mostly a terrible idea.

To clarify, that's where his salary tops out at in a couple of years. He's in the $38m range now. He's such a bad idea (sorry Carlos).

No problem Biz, we ain’t gonna get him anyway.

Him and Mitch would combine for 60 ppg.

[thebizneverloses]

In 1997 the Sonics traded  Bobby Jackson for Rashard Lewis. Later traded him into cap space and garnered a $9M trade exception, which was pretty big at the time. In a brilliant move, they acquired Kurt Thomas and a 1st rounder from a Phoenix Suns team desperate to dump salary. That pick, in the 20s, was Serge Ibaka (nice scouting, Thunder!). Ibaka was good for OKC, but they flipped him for Victor Oladipo and the recently drafted Domantas Sabonis. A year later, those two were rerouted for all-star Paul George.

In sum: Bobby Jackson became first rounders in 2021, 22, 23, 23 (swap), 24, 25 (swap), 26 plus Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Danilo Gallinari.

[bodiddley]

Lowry 33; Ma Gasol 34 . . .

and...?

Lowry has proven to be a regular season player.
No extra gear.
Kawhi really had to bust his ass to drag the team to the top.
Also, short PG's of the semi-round variety don't age well.

Gasol seems on his last legs.  Doesn't even seem in shape anymore.  Still a smart player.  But he's really a bench player now.

Siakim 25 and becoming a star.  But still somewhat raw.
OG 21 and just getting started.

In between you have marginal players like Norm Powell, FVV (great heart), and Ibaka who is enigmatic.

Lowry, Ma Gasol and Ibaka earn $78M next year combined, but are all ending deals.    Will TOR be able to re-sign them at reasonable rates?  Is that even a wise idea?  How do they move on?

Valanciunas is gone.  FVV is a grinder but hard to see him as a legit starter.  Just a strong backup PG. 

They can be a 4-5 playoff team next year, and duck out in a round or two.  Or try to move Gasol for something (which might include a bad contract as well).  Or move Lowry.  Ibaka might have the most appeal. 

They're in a tricky in-between land.
And those ending contracts require a decision.
Even if you re-sign Lowry to a reasonable 3 year deal, keep Gasol cheaply, and Ibaka stays, how do you fill in around them and guard against aging? 

They need to make a decision this year or next Summer.
Not sure a lot of cap space does too much good in TOR.  And next year FA class supposed to be weak anyway.

[bodiddley]

Odd, DMC traded to SA in a deal that sent Bertans to WAS.
Wonder why I read DMC to SA 2 or 3 days ago?
And he had a 2 year deal that SA extended to 3.
Next year is his age 33 season. W hy lock him up at age 35 when it wasn't necessary?  Odd.  he's had injury issues too

Wonder why Spurs wanted him and ditched the much younger Bertans (26), who can light it up.  I like DMC and don't get this deal.  Spurs had trouble scoring last year.  And were oldish.  DMC doesn't help with those issues.

Same time I saw DMC to SA, I saw they were resigning Gay.  Not sure if that went down, but my brief trip into the future said it will happen.

[facilitatorn]

Teams often convert agreed signings into trades to influence cap numbers, create trade exceptions, or shift small assets. Usually this occurs when one or more parties work out an additional signing or trade between the agreement and execution of the original deal being converted from a simple signing to a trade.

Raps can start a youth movement with Lowry and Gasol as tent poles. Acquire young cheap talent and see where it takes them. They can shop for known talent once those two come off the books. Now that SG and SF are open up North, Vince Carter should go back to his first NBA home for his final season or seasons.

[bodiddley]

Quinn Cook to Lakes (Rondo - Cook)

Avery Bradley a very free man.
Early tumors link him to GSW.
Playing time while Klay is out.
High profile team.
Min salary.

[thebizneverloses]

Lowry 33; Ma Gasol 34 . . .

and...?

Lowry has proven to be a regular season player.
No extra gear.
Kawhi really had to bust his ass to drag the team to the top.
Also, short PG's of the semi-round variety don't age well.

Gasol seems on his last legs.  Doesn't even seem in shape anymore.  Still a smart player.  But he's really a bench player now.

Man, I disagree with these takes (those I highlighted). Like you didn't watch the playoffs.

[thebizneverloses]

Quinn Cook to Lakes (Rondo - Cook)

Avery Bradley a very free man.
Early tumors link him to GSW.
Playing time while Klay is out.
High profile team.
Min salary.

Philly needs to be after him. Dallas too. I would have liked him on the Lakers, but not sure if there are minutes for him there any more.