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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

@Spurs
Brooklyn
Boston

How good is BKY?
And it's practically a home game for NYK.
Unfortunately our home opener is the next night v. BOS 2nd game of a B2B.
But Knix have depth and BOS doesn't.

But after the first three games, comes a real soft next 11.
Tue, Oct 29  v Chicago
Thu, Oct 31 @ Orlando
Sat, Nov 2     @ Boston
Mon, Nov 4  v Sacramento
Thu, Nov 7  @ Detroit
Sat, Nov 9     @ Dallas
Mon, Nov 11 v Cleveland
Wed, Nov 13 @ Chicago
Fri, Nov 15    v  Dallas
Sun, Nov 17  v Charlotte
Tue, Nov 19   v Cleveland

BOS the only playoff team.  Maybe DET or SAC.
So the first month, the first 14 games, have tons of winnable matchups.
Knix might want to play vets heavy early and try to rack up some W's to build confidence.

Great early schedule with a chance to start off with a solid record.

[facilitatorn]

It would be nice to have my hopes up for at least a minute.

I’m surprised Kid hasn’t let us know about Rui’s 35 pt outing vs. the Tallblacks in a friendly. Japan won, btw.

I think we have three likely starters in Mitch, Julius, and Marcus. I think RJ will be coming to camp looking to land a starting job. Do any of the other options have the package to deny him a spot?

PG is very unclear. I hope Payton stays healthy this year. It would also be nice if he made his stroke more effective.

I’m torn between accepting Trier as a spark plug or trying to evolve him into a PG a la Chauncey Billups.

Still a few weeks till worlds. Nothing to gnaw on but friendlies, workout vids, interviews, and speculative prognostications.

[facilitatorn]

I almost forgot trade proposals

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2848931-1-trade-every-contender-should-make-to-go-all-in#slide5

[Kam]

With the exception of the Cleveland and Charlotte games, I don't see anything that's guaranteed easy.

OKC should be easy

[kidcarter8]

Deep rotations allow you to demand energy and play aggressive D despite tight whistles.

I don’t think anyone can expect to get more than 30 minutes a game this season except Randle unless they play so well that it makes it impossible to pull them off the floor. I think it’s more likely we see a spread of minutes and production at most spots.

Under this scenario, non-Randle starters could see 24-28 minutes per game.

We have enough vets to pepper them over two platoons to reenforce a continuity of professional play while still having room to work in our various tiers of youth.

So you just foul a lot more?  And are ok with that?

Not what we are looking for

Next!

[kidcarter8]

With the exception of the Cleveland and Charlotte games, I don't see anything that's guaranteed easy.

OKC should be easy

No easy ones this year

[bodiddley]

I almost forgot trade proposals

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2848931-1-trade-every-contender-should-make-to-go-all-in#slide5

They should have stopped at 4 or 5 trades.
The 2 Beal trades for instance are interesting.

But then you get LAC giving up solid Mo Hark, last year's #13 pick and a future #1 for a 35 year old Iggy.  Way too much.

MIL trading away their depth (GeoHill, Ilya and DiVincenzo) for Tim Jr.
Yikes.  So Mil would have no backup PG and DJ Wilson as their only backup PF.  All that for the great Tim Jr . . .  I'd rather have Korver and Wes taking my 3's anyway.

PHI hardly can afford a 2-for-1 since their bench is very weak already.

Love for Whiteside & Zach?
Christ.  Love is always injured and has a huge contract.
POR has the highest payroll this season.
They need to let Whiteside's money expire.  And Zach is a cheap good young player.  Throw that all away for a gamble on Love.
If he can stay healthy, it'd be interesting.
Except their 3 best players are all weak defenders. 
If it didn't work out, it'd be an epic disaster.

And I have no idea why MIN would give away Covington for dreck.
But if he's that available, Knix should figure out a package.

A lot of those trades strike me as unbalanced.

[facilitatorn]

Deep rotations allow you to demand energy and play aggressive D despite tight whistles.

I don’t think anyone can expect to get more than 30 minutes a game this season except Randle unless they play so well that it makes it impossible to pull them off the floor. I think it’s more likely we see a spread of minutes and production at most spots.

Under this scenario, non-Randle starters could see 24-28 minutes per game.

We have enough vets to pepper them over two platoons to reenforce a continuity of professional play while still having room to work in our various tiers of youth.

So you just foul a lot more?  And are ok with that?

Not what we are looking for

Next!

Coaches don’t have to allow players to slack off on D like Fredette and Calderon, your two favorite recent Knicks, to avoid fouling out. Players still need to play smart, but defensive coasting should lead to less time not more. Since we don’t have any big names, this should apply to every player. That’s how we can build the culture we want.

[kidcarter8]

Some updated figures for NBA

Just eight teams less than 20-1 to win it all

Take a guess

[kidcarter8]

Just NINE players less than 20-1 for MVP

[kidcarter8]

EIGHT players 20-1 or less to win Rookie of the Year

[kidcarter8]

Stunners

Boston 7-1 to win East

Warriors 8.5-1 to win West

[kidcarter8]

Deep rotations allow you to demand energy and play aggressive D despite tight whistles.

I don’t think anyone can expect to get more than 30 minutes a game this season except Randle unless they play so well that it makes it impossible to pull them off the floor. I think it’s more likely we see a spread of minutes and production at most spots.

Under this scenario, non-Randle starters could see 24-28 minutes per game.

We have enough vets to pepper them over two platoons to reenforce a continuity of professional play while still having room to work in our various tiers of youth.

So you just foul a lot more?  And are ok with that?

Not what we are looking for

Next!

Coaches don’t have to allow players to slack off on D like Fredette and Calderon, your two favorite recent Knicks, to avoid fouling out. Players still need to play smart, but defensive coasting should lead to less time not more. Since we don’t have any big names, this should apply to every player. That’s how we can build the culture we want.

I have no problem with defense

Sadly we so often lose the game at the offensive end

[carlos123]

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NO YOU CAN'T

[Kam]

I'd like Trier to start for his 3-point shot and energy.  But he's not a good defender, is a bit of a black hole so vets might stand around annoyed.  Really his best role is as a bench instant offense type.

Smith Jr. -- I'd like him to start.  Push the pace.  Attack.  Take wide open 3's.  Can he run an offense?  He showed some chemistry with Mitch.  Can he help Randle and Morris get good looks?

Peyton -- he's really a seasoned backup PG.  A bit crafty and competitive.  Doesn't shoot well.  More pesky than good defense.

RJB -- I'd like him starting if he's ready for it.  But he's young with holes in his game.  And none of our PG's can hit 3's, so not a good pairing.

Ellington -- maybe he makes most sense being a 3&D guy next to Smith.  No upside and just takes minutes from yute.  But maybe he can steady things.  Too much of a jacker for my taste.  Can he settle down and just take good 3's and move the ball, instead of heaving crazy shots?

Franc -- our best G defender.  So I'd like him out there.  But he needs to offend as well.  Can Franc handle and set up and do enough scoring to keep defenses honest?

Datsun -- in danger of being the forgotten man in the Ron Baker Memorial 7th G role.  But he has two-way potential.  And I'd rather he gets minutes over Ellington.    maybe it comes down to who is a better long-term backup SG option -- Trier or Datsun.  Which probably depends on what your team needs.   

Lotta G's.
No legit G starters.

I don't think all of the above are with the Knicks by opening night.   

Perhaps a trade for some future well-protected first or multiple #2 picks for either Frank or Dot.