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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[LarryBnDC]

I have to agree with Larry and Kid.

Republican officialdom and more and more the party as a whole is comprised of feckless surrender monkeys. They no longer have the power or unity of purpose to stop any of Biden’s popular and practical agenda.

While the cracker taliban is putting its heart and soul into getting Moscow Mitch and defendant don to make kissy face or at least to get them to stand back and stand by, Democrats can do the people’s business.

Americans care far more about the government getting things done to reverse and resolve the nasty tangle of republican born crises infecting and plaguing their lives.

Put bills on the table and pull out the stops helping republicans self-demonize, and we’ll have a healthier culture and economy. We will also eventually wind up in a place where more republican “leaders” are in prison where they belong than in office where they clearly don’t.

Republicans have no counter proposals to anything in Biden’s agenda because Democrats have taken all the best ideas and the alternatives available to the republicans are all clearly worse.

It’s why one after another republicans keep running away.

This is an example of Post-Insurrection/Impeachment thinking.

[LarryBnDC]

Another bit from the 'Way Back' machine.

The more things change...


https://exjournalistsunite.wordpress.com/2017/08/16/americas-original-sin/

ZZZZZZZZZZZ....

You need a new act. When you keep telling people how much they hate you, they will.

Strip naked and hug a Saguaro. You dumb fuck

As usual, Larry can't debate.

Heh

Go dig up your mother and skull fuck that bitch.

[bankshot1]

I have to agree with Larry and Kid.

Republican officialdom and more and more the party as a whole is comprised of feckless surrender monkeys. They no longer have the power or unity of purpose to stop any of Biden’s popular and practical agenda.

While the cracker taliban is putting its heart and soul into getting Moscow Mitch and defendant don to make kissy face or at least to get them to stand back and stand by, Democrats can do the people’s business.

Americans care far more about the government getting things done to reverse and resolve the nasty tangle of republican born crises infecting and plaguing their lives.

Put bills on the table and pull out the stops helping republicans self-demonize, and we’ll have a healthier culture and economy. We will also eventually wind up in a place where more republican “leaders” are in prison where they belong than in office where they clearly don’t.

Republicans have no counter proposals to anything in Biden’s agenda because Democrats have taken all the best ideas and the alternatives available to the republicans are all clearly worse.

It’s why one after another republicans keep running away.

Repubs have nothing to offer Americans, they have two cards left-FEAR & HATE.

LIBRALS!
SOCIALISTS!

will take you guns and free speech and 401ks and

its all bullshit

So don't give R-pols those cards to play pre '22 election.

Joe's got enough to do to fix what the Trump crime family fucked up and corrupted and all but bankrupted

covid-economy-O-Care-jobs clean water schools

those issues are what Rs and Ds (people not politicians-theres a difference an its important) need and want.

its bi-partisan

let the Rs fight against the help R & D voters want and need

there's a reason Rs voters are starting turn to Independent, give them a chance to keep on running

do not give them a reason to go back to the ramshackle run-down trailer park they once called home

let the Rs finish killing themselves all by themselves with their empty promises.

Do not help the motherfuckers reunite the dysfuntional fascist party on the basis of hate and fear

[bankshot1]

Larry seems to forget he made the same arguments last June about this being a once in a lifetime opportunity to GO BIG, yet despite a fascist atop the R-ticket, and a moderate atop the Dems, the Dems managed to lose 13 House seats on mod-indy voter fears of police defunding, unrest in Philly, and Repubs marketing Dems as dangerous socialists.

the R-party is on the verge of imploding, civil war, and has handed the keys to Trump to drive the car. This is a road trip to disaster.

There is no need for the Dems to give the Rs anything that will re-unite them in time for '22.

Let the motherfuckers stab each other or commit hari-kari.

Joe and the Ds can win huge battles on covid-eonomy-jobs-infrastructure O-Care and a few other things that people want.

Let the Rs fight against these popular plans that both Rs and Ds voters need and want. Like their health and jobs and schools and insurance.

The Rs will self-destruct and Dems can recruit a shit-ton of new voters who are willing to vote D-Blue in '22 and '24 and maybe generationally.

slow role this, win the easy hands, collect chips to play for bigger pots, post '22.

I disagree.

That's certainly your right to disagree with my opinion.

Although I note you and kid are in agreement on this.

and kid's not right on much of anything.

so you might want to reconsider.

And I will note

Larry seems to forget he made the same arguments last June about this being a once in a lifetime opportunity to GO BIG, yet despite a fascist atop the R-ticket, and a moderate atop the Dems, the Dems managed to lose 13 House seats on mod-indy voter fears of police defunding, unrest in Philly, and Repubs marketing Dems as dangerous socialists

is factually correct.

You keep going back to June.

Its fucking February and a whole lot of shit has happened since.

Because I understand the difference between policy and politics and I can count to 60.

You seem to have trouble there

you were wrong in June 2020 and over confident about the revolution.

America remains a 50-50 moderate country

Joe needs to work it closer to 55-45 and hope for some reasonable Repubs who understand country before party.

[Oilcandide]

GOP has a knack for making Democratic policy successes look like failures to the gullible.   These are people who can get their faithful to believe a couple windmills in Sweden is the entire infrastructure in Texas.  And believe that Governor Abbot can lay the blame on green policies he hasn't even implemented. 

Sure. That’s all we need are more Government “ green” policies!
Every Federal administration back to Bush 41 has endorsed and then renewed the federal tax credit for building renewable Wind and Solar Farms( worth up to 30%of the cost). The end result has been higher prices for electricity generated by nuclear, gas, and coal plants hence many going out of business
Of course adding more unreliable wind and solar sources leaves the likelihood the grids will be out of balance, especially during bad weather when reliable power is needed most.

Don't know if you've notice, genius, but wind installations had a lower failure rate than NG and oil plants.  Also wondering if you're aware that bad weather tends to be accompanied by, especially in the plains, lots of WIND.  In other states, like the Dakotas and Nebraska, the wind power stayed up and was the RELIABLE BACKUP while it was quite cold and WINDY and the extra watts were much needed.  And, to counter one other lie in your post, wind in now cheaper than fossil fuel energy by quite a margin.  That's why it's jumped from near zero to around 25% of power in heartland states.  And that's just getting started. 

[Oilcandide]

Another bit from the 'Way Back' machine.

The more things change...


https://exjournalistsunite.wordpress.com/2017/08/16/americas-original-sin/

ZZZZZZZZZZZ....

You need a new act. When you keep telling people how much they hate you, they will.

Strip naked and hug a Saguaro. You dumb fuck

As usual, Larry can't debate.

Heh

Go dig up your mother and skull fuck that bitch.

Do you need to take his bait?  You end up eating really rotten bait, and he ends up with the large boner he gets from you swearing at him. 

[FlyingVProd]

City of Anaheim- Municipal Government

15h  ·

Even -- and perhaps especially -- amid the pandemic, we've not slowed down on our homeless outreach efforts here in Anaheim.

In January we launched the new Community Care Response Team, enhancing and increasing our ongoing outreach with our partners at City Net.

The team operates 14 hours a day, seven days a week throughout the city, and also operates a dedicated Anaheim call center for calls from the community related to homelessness.

If you know someone in need, or have a concern about a homeless situation in your neighborhood, report it at Anaheim.net/anytime or call (714) 820-9090.

In a little more than a month, the team responded to more than 700 calls, made contact with more than 380 people on Anaheim's streets and helped more than 64 people get into housing or shelter.

The team has also distributed COVID-19 resources such as face masks, hand sanitizer and information on where to get tested or vaccinated.

The team is off to a great start, and we're encouraged to see what they'll do in month two.

----------------

We also have the new Wellness Center in Orange, and we have the Mental Health Association in Santa Ana. And people in Orange County can dial 2-1-1 on their cell phones if they become homeless and people will help them.

Salute,

Tony V.

[barton]

Meanwhile, some more facts on the Texas energy debacle, in addition to Oilcan's solid factual bits above....

Texas relies on natural gas more than any other fuel for its electricity generation. Gas generated nearly half of the state’s electricity in 2019, according to the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT). Wind and coal each accounted for about 20 percent of electricity generation that year, while nuclear made up about another 10 percent. While nuclear and wind power have been hampered by the storm, neither frigid nuclear plants nor frozen wind turbines bear the largest share of responsibility for Texas’ power problems.

“It appears that a lot of the generation that has gone offline today has been primarily due to issues on the natural gas system,” Dan Woodfin, senior director of system operations at ERCOT, said during a call with reporters on February 16th, the Texas Tribune reported.

While the frigid cold slashed fuel supplies of all sorts, it also drove up demand for natural gas to heat homes. That “mismatch” is what’s driving these blackouts, says Coombs. There simply hasn’t been enough fuel on hand to power the state’s electricity needs. Natural gas production was pretty much halved in Texas and its gas-rich Permian Basin during the recent cold and stormy weather. It fell from 22.5 billion cubic feet of gas produced per day in December to between 10 to 12 billion cubic feet of gas per day this week, according to estimates from BTU Analytics.

That drop-off in production is thanks to freeze-offs at wellheads where oil and gas are pumped out of the ground. But the cold has also stopped equipment from working properly at gas processing plants, Coombs says. Processing plants separate gas from fluid and impurities; when equipment freezes, plants have to heat it up or wait for temperatures to rise before they can resume their work.

While other states invest more in equipment that helps prevent freeze-offs, Texas hasn’t seen the need. North Dakota typically sees 20 days a year with freeze-off events, while the Permian Basin would normally have just four days a year with freeze-offs disrupting gas production, according to BTU Analytics.

“With gas prices being low – and storage being full – the risk of 2-3 days of possible freeze-off every several years is a risk that Gulf Coast producers have been willing to take,” a report on freeze-offs prepared for ERCOT in 2013 says.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/17/22287130/texas-natural-gas-production-power-outages-frozen

(The R in ERCOT is entirely ironic, it would seem)

So, Red, take your lies and shove up 'em up your shitter with an unlubricated horse-cock.

[Hairy Lime]

GOP has a knack for making Democratic policy successes look like failures to the gullible.   These are people who can get their faithful to believe a couple windmills in Sweden is the entire infrastructure in Texas.  And believe that Governor Abbot can lay the blame on green policies he hasn't even implemented. 

Sure. That’s all we need are more Government “ green” policies!
Every Federal administration back to Bush 41 has endorsed and then renewed the federal tax credit for building renewable Wind and Solar Farms( worth up to 30%of the cost). The end result has been higher prices for electricity generated by nuclear, gas, and coal plants hence many going out of business
Of course adding more unreliable wind and solar sources leaves the likelihood the grids will be out of balance, especially during bad weather when reliable power is needed most.

Don't know if you've notice, genius, but wind installations had a lower failure rate than NG and oil plants.  Also wondering if you're aware that bad weather tends to be accompanied by, especially in the plains, lots of WIND.  In other states, like the Dakotas and Nebraska, the wind power stayed up and was the RELIABLE BACKUP while it was quite cold and WINDY and the extra watts were much needed.  And, to counter one other lie in your post, wind in now cheaper than fossil fuel energy by quite a margin.  That's why it's jumped from near zero to around 25% of power in heartland states.  And that's just getting started.

You are only going to confuse Red with all those facts. Another one, though: increasing renewables leaving the grid unbalanced was not the issue. Deregulation - or rather, the refusal to regulate is. The same thing happened ten years ago, and rather than regulate to ensure the problem didn't recur, Te as opted for guidelines which the energy providers simply ignored because it did not 8ncrease their immediate bottom line. There is a reason Oklahoma's grid did not go down.

[REDSTATEWARD]

GOP has a knack for making Democratic policy successes look like failures to the gullible.   These are people who can get their faithful to believe a couple windmills in Sweden is the entire infrastructure in Texas.  And believe that Governor Abbot can lay the blame on green policies he hasn't even implemented. 

Sure. That’s all we need are more Government “ green” policies!
Every Federal administration back to Bush 41 has endorsed and then renewed the federal tax credit for building renewable Wind and Solar Farms( worth up to 30%of the cost). The end result has been higher prices for electricity generated by nuclear, gas, and coal plants hence many going out of business
Of course adding more unreliable wind and solar sources leaves the likelihood the grids will be out of balance, especially during bad weather when reliable power is needed most.

Don't know if you've notice, genius, but wind installations had a lower failure rate than NG and oil plants. 

not if you factor in calm and sunless periods where they don’t work at all, hence the need for a grid baseload.

Also wondering if you're aware that bad weather tends to be accompanied by, especially in the plains, lots of WIND.  In other states, like the Dakotas and Nebraska, the wind power stayed up and was the RELIABLE BACKUP while it was quite cold and WINDY and the extra watts were much needed. 

No one is arguing against diversification of power generation.

And, to counter one other lie in your post, wind in now cheaper than fossil fuel energy by quite a margin.  That's why it's jumped from near zero to around 25% of power in heartland states.  And that's just getting started.

I guess you didn’t read my earlier post, even though you attached it.
Sure renewables are cheaper since Government tax credits, enacted temporarily 30 years ago to jumpstart the industry, are still being handed out- a nice gift from the politicians to keep the “ green” lobby happy.
The price differential is driving coal, nuclear, and gas plants to shut down. But as Texas just proved the resulting imbalance on grids can be disastrous.

[barton]

You are only going to confuse Red with all those facts. Another one, though: increasing renewables leaving the grid unbalanced was not the issue. Deregulation - or rather, the refusal to regulate is. The same thing happened ten years ago, and rather than regulate to ensure the problem didn't recur, Te as opted for guidelines which the energy providers simply ignored because it did not 8ncrease their immediate bottom line. There is a reason Oklahoma's grid did not go down.

Or El Paso's.  Which wisely opted to join the Western Grid and buy power from plants in New Mexico and the 4 Corners area. 

It's so reliably GOP to whine about regulations that prevent systemic failures of any kind, discard them, let the system fail, and then bitch at Democrats for spending the money that was always going to have to be spent to make systems functional and reliable.  It's become the party of myopic slash-and-burn economics. 

[barton]

GOP has a knack for making Democratic policy successes look like failures to the gullible.   These are people who can get their faithful to believe a couple windmills in Sweden is the entire infrastructure in Texas.  And believe that Governor Abbot can lay the blame on green policies he hasn't even implemented. 

Sure. That’s all we need are more Government “ green” policies!
Every Federal administration back to Bush 41 has endorsed and then renewed the federal tax credit for building renewable Wind and Solar Farms( worth up to 30%of the cost). The end result has been higher prices for electricity generated by nuclear, gas, and coal plants hence many going out of business
Of course adding more unreliable wind and solar sources leaves the likelihood the grids will be out of balance, especially during bad weather when reliable power is needed most.

Don't know if you've noticed, genius, but wind installations had a lower failure rate than NG and oil plants. 

...not if you factor in calm and sunless periods where they don’t work at all, hence the need for a grid baseload.

LOL.  This is where I stopped reading, when it became clear that you think idiotically think windmills don't work when it's "sunless."  Your deliberate obtuseness is noted.  Enough with the strawman.  No one says we don't need backups, like newer generation safer nuke plants and geothermal plants, for those periods when solar and wind are hitting cyclical troughs, and the GRID can't distribute power from somewhere else where they aren't.

But, ask anyone who lives out here, the wind is ALWAYS blowing enough places to maintain a solid baseload, even when (LOL) it's "sunless."  There is no strawman green energy policy that says get rid of all backups, like nuke and NG, right away.  All Green policy suggests is that we need to move faster towards the future, because the planet isn't going to sit around and be nice while we stuff more carbon into the atmosphere and oceans. 

[LarryBnDC]

Another bit from the 'Way Back' machine.

The more things change...


https://exjournalistsunite.wordpress.com/2017/08/16/americas-original-sin/

ZZZZZZZZZZZ....

You need a new act. When you keep telling people how much they hate you, they will.

Strip naked and hug a Saguaro. You dumb fuck

As usual, Larry can't debate.

Heh

Go dig up your mother and skull fuck that bitch.

Do you need to take his bait?  You end up eating really rotten bait, and he ends up with the large boner he gets from you swearing at him.

He's not 'baiting' me, this is how he gets his jollies.

If he wants to jizz on his screen then Bless him.

I have made it perfectly clear, if he addresses me in way shape or form he will not get a civil response from me.

[LarryBnDC]

Larry seems to forget he made the same arguments last June about this being a once in a lifetime opportunity to GO BIG, yet despite a fascist atop the R-ticket, and a moderate atop the Dems, the Dems managed to lose 13 House seats on mod-indy voter fears of police defunding, unrest in Philly, and Repubs marketing Dems as dangerous socialists.

the R-party is on the verge of imploding, civil war, and has handed the keys to Trump to drive the car. This is a road trip to disaster.

There is no need for the Dems to give the Rs anything that will re-unite them in time for '22.

Let the motherfuckers stab each other or commit hari-kari.

Joe and the Ds can win huge battles on covid-eonomy-jobs-infrastructure O-Care and a few other things that people want.

Let the Rs fight against these popular plans that both Rs and Ds voters need and want. Like their health and jobs and schools and insurance.

The Rs will self-destruct and Dems can recruit a shit-ton of new voters who are willing to vote D-Blue in '22 and '24 and maybe generationally.

slow role this, win the easy hands, collect chips to play for bigger pots, post '22.

I disagree.

That's certainly your right to disagree with my opinion.

Although I note you and kid are in agreement on this.

and kid's not right on much of anything.

so you might want to reconsider.

And I will note

Larry seems to forget he made the same arguments last June about this being a once in a lifetime opportunity to GO BIG, yet despite a fascist atop the R-ticket, and a moderate atop the Dems, the Dems managed to lose 13 House seats on mod-indy voter fears of police defunding, unrest in Philly, and Repubs marketing Dems as dangerous socialists

is factually correct.

You keep going back to June.

Its fucking February and a whole lot of shit has happened since.

Because I understand the difference between policy and politics and I can count to 60.

You seem to have trouble there

you were wrong in June 2020 and over confident about the revolution.

America remains a 50-50 moderate country

Joe needs to work it closer to 55-45 and hope for some reasonable Repubs who understand country before party.

I underestimated the inherent racism among "moderate" democrats.

You seem to know all about that.

Too many WHITE people don't vote their heads and we should pander to those dumb fucks.

While you're talking about a 50/50 country the GOP is redoubling its voter suppression efforts.

It seems they learned more from tis summer than you.

They saw how they lost what should have been at least one layup in GA.

Democratic White House
Democratic House (slim majority and very few ersatz GOP)
Democratic Senate - slim majority bt Sinema and Manchin aren't fucking stupid.

So why are you trying to convince me the Democrats lost?

[LarryBnDC]

You are only going to confuse Red with all those facts. Another one, though: increasing renewables leaving the grid unbalanced was not the issue. Deregulation - or rather, the refusal to regulate is. The same thing happened ten years ago, and rather than regulate to ensure the problem didn't recur, Te as opted for guidelines which the energy providers simply ignored because it did not 8ncrease their immediate bottom line. There is a reason Oklahoma's grid did not go down.

Or El Paso's.  Which wisely opted to join the Western Grid and buy power from plants in New Mexico and the 4 Corners area. 

It's so reliably GOP to whine about regulations that prevent systemic failures of any kind, discard them, let the system fail, and then bitch at Democrats for spending the money that was always going to have to be spent to make systems functional and reliable.  It's become the party of myopic slash-and-burn economics.

Just goes to show Kinky and the Texas Jew Boys were right to be proud 'Assholes from El Paso!"