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Should the US be concerned about an invasion of Ukraine by Russia?

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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM


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josh

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22320 on: December 17, 2021, 09:21:09 PM »
So, Kid... about COVID-19 and Omicron.

The doubling rate is 2-3 days in the number of infected. It was at 3% of the new cases on Wednesday, 13% in NY and NJ.

By Christmas, conservatively, it will be 25% of new cases - but not replacing the old ones. We will still be getting a ton of Delta cases - about 120,000 per day. It will decline, but not as fast as Omicron increases.

And even granting we are right about the lower severity of Omicron, on average enough more will get it that our hospitalization rates will rise, not drop.

Further, Pfizer's effectiveness against Omicron is not as high as you keep painting it to be, hence the need for getting a booster.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22321 on: December 17, 2021, 09:37:57 PM »
And even granting we are right about the lower severity of Omicron, on average enough more will get it that our hospitalization rates will rise, not drop.


OMICRON "sufferers" dont end up in a hospital.  Doesnt get to the lungs.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22322 on: December 17, 2021, 09:38:46 PM »
I keep painting Pfizer what?
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22323 on: December 17, 2021, 10:10:48 PM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on December 17, 2021, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: Barton3.0 on December 17, 2021, 03:23:10 PM
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on December 17, 2021, 12:56:19 PM
Quote from: Barton3.0 on December 17, 2021, 12:34:37 PM
You understand you just advanced a good reason to mandate more vaccination, right?
More mandates that are illegal and cause a shortage of health workers?

And why is there a shortage of health care workers in the first place?  Because there are so many sick people, which results from high rates of covid infection, which in turn results from lack of public health mandates like universal vaccination.   Nothing in our legal system bars extraordinary measures to deal with contagious diseases.  That is how smallpox was eradicated.  (See my previous comment on when personal bodily autonomy gives way to demands  of serious public health threats)

Nothing in the legal system?
How is Brandon doing in the courts?

Not bad...

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-appeals-court-reinstates-covid-19-vaccine-or-test-rule-us-workplaces-2021-12-18/
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22324 on: December 17, 2021, 10:12:32 PM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on December 17, 2021, 09:13:46 PM
Congrats to Nick Sandman who got paid a lot from NBC for its  lies.
Good over evil.
Always worth celebrating

Here, now go away little boy into right wing obscurity.

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22325 on: December 17, 2021, 10:21:00 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on December 17, 2021, 09:37:57 PM
And even granting we are right about the lower severity of Omicron, on average enough more will get it that our hospitalization rates will rise, not drop.


OMICRON "sufferers" dont end up in a hospital.  Doesnt get to the lungs.

Oddly enough, the science disagrees with you, Kid.

The best scenario is in South Africa, where they report that the Omicron hospitalization rate is 29% of the other variants. However two other countries are not seeing the reduction that South Africa saw and the reasons for the discrepancy are unclear at this time - there are theories, but only theories.

Even if the rate is "only" 29% of the other variants, if tons more people catch it, then the hospitals will still be overwhelmed.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03794-8
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22326 on: December 17, 2021, 10:24:34 PM »
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22327 on: December 17, 2021, 11:11:07 PM »
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22328 on: December 17, 2021, 11:21:12 PM »
http://www.vice.com/en/article/akv33a/phil-waldron-powerpoint-incited-jan-6

They have identified a major republican disease vector, one of the twelve monkeys of the apocalypse.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22329 on: December 18, 2021, 02:29:05 AM »
"The Dark Side Of California" is the headline in the YouTube video:
"The California Dream is DEAD".

Sad really.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22330 on: December 18, 2021, 09:58:45 AM »
Quote from: josh on December 17, 2021, 10:21:00 PM


Oddly enough, the science disagrees with you, Kid.


Science disagreeing with Kid is the least odd thing I read here. 
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22331 on: December 18, 2021, 10:09:26 AM »
Does everyone understand why the PROGRESSIVES balked at separating the passage of the BIB from BBB?

Moderates are fucking suckers.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22332 on: December 18, 2021, 11:24:28 AM »
Understood.  I think it was lack of confidence.  They thought they would end up with nothing AND an opposition party that painted them as obstructionist.

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22333 on: December 18, 2021, 11:27:49 AM »
John Dickerson of 60 Minutes and Face the Nation has humorous bumper sticker style slogans for the US political parties:

For GOP  - Theyre for commies, were for mommies.

For Dems   -  Were for you, theyre for coup.

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22334 on: December 18, 2021, 11:28:53 AM »
Quote from: Oilcan on December 18, 2021, 11:24:28 AM
Understood.  I think it was lack of confidence.  They thought they would end up with nothing AND an opposition party that painted them as obstructionist.

Where they wrong?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/politics/house-moderate-democrats-infrastructure-strategy/index.html

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