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Should the US be concerned about an invasion of Ukraine by Russia?

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Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM


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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #435 on: January 26, 2021, 10:46:41 PM »

Meanwhile... the average of new cases continues to drop sharply, with no public statements about why, to the lowest average since Dec. 2nd.

But the average of daily new deaths is back up almost all of what it lost over MLK weekend, tying the 2nd highest number with strong likelihood that it will keep going for a while.

You may remember that around Jan 10th I explained that the model showed a sharp drop starting on Jan 12. There was a small drop, through Jan 16, but the big drop never happened. Things mostly leveled off in their model, showing a 1% rise through yesterday, with the sharp drop now scheduled to begin on Feb 12, a month after the prior projection.

Unfortunately, instead of the 1% rise, as I commented above, we've seen a 10% rise. All bets are off when it comes to their death projections.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #436 on: January 26, 2021, 11:05:57 PM »

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #437 on: January 26, 2021, 11:09:53 PM »

Not enough?

How about...
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« Reply #438 on: January 26, 2021, 11:14:07 PM »

Dr. Birx on her mistakes and the WH/Trump refusal to do what was needed wrt the virus:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/opinions/deborah-birx-interview-filipovic/index.html
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #439 on: January 26, 2021, 11:30:26 PM »

Independent prosecutor to root out insurrection and related fraud and corruption. It will be much easier to convict a senator as corrupt if they vote to let off trump.
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« Reply #440 on: January 27, 2021, 12:20:19 AM »

Except it isn't unconstitutional to impeach a politician after they've left office. 
Otherwise they could do any fucking illegal thing they want in the last month of their term.
There is no such loophole. 
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #441 on: January 27, 2021, 12:47:42 AM »

Except it isn't unconstitutional to impeach a politician after they've left office. 
Otherwise they could do any fucking illegal thing they want in the last month of their term.
There is no such loophole.

It is purely political though.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #442 on: January 27, 2021, 01:20:09 AM »

Except it isn't unconstitutional to impeach a politician after they've left office. 
Otherwise they could do any fucking illegal thing they want in the last month of their term.
There is no such loophole.
At least to you.
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« Reply #443 on: January 27, 2021, 01:25:33 AM »

Except it isn't unconstitutional to impeach a politician after they've left office. 
Otherwise they could do any fucking illegal thing they want in the last month of their term.
There is no such loophole.
At least to you.

Except to me and the Senate who voted in 1876, by a 37-29 margin, that Belknap was eligible to be impeached and tried even though he resigned from office.
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« Reply #444 on: January 27, 2021, 01:26:52 AM »

Except it isn't unconstitutional to impeach a politician after they've left office. 
Otherwise they could do any fucking illegal thing they want in the last month of their term.
There is no such loophole.

It is purely political though.

Yeah... that's politics.  Or are the Republicans too stupid to realize the dems are doing them a big favor by trying to make it so Trump can't hold federal office again.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #445 on: January 27, 2021, 01:32:11 AM »

Republicans want to get on record as standing up for insurrection.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #446 on: January 27, 2021, 01:38:16 AM »

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Just bear in mind why many of us consider China one of the most horrible hellholes of them all,  not because you can't have a comfortable existence there,  but because comfort and security are bought at the price of repressive and brutal totalitarian governance that seems to have little regard for individual human life.   

Little regard for individual human life?

Covid deaths China: 4,636
Two days ago, China had its first CV death in 8 months.

Covid deaths US: 425,000


Hellhole?
China has a very low crime rate.  Women and individuals can walk down any street late at night with little worry about crime.  Very safe.  Next to zero guns.

The economy has been booming for decades, people are optimistic about improving their lives and their children having a better future.  Last decade and this decade in China are largely comparable to the post-war US from 1947 -1964.

China becoming the dominant player in future industries such as solar.  There are benefits to long-term economic strategizing and the gov't working together with business to reach goals.


Not sure about this CV year, but ordinarily there are public protests in China on a near daily basis.  Mostly involving gov't and property companies taking land and not compensating the villagers fairly.   Or stock or other companies swiping account holders money and fleeing.  And sometimes these protests turn violent including burning or overturning police cars and such.  The gov't will not allow widespread organized protests aimed at the central gov't, though folks go to petition the central gov't for redress all the time.  Large and widespread protests targeting the US or Japan are often allowed.  After the US bombed the China Embassy in Belgrade there were thousands of protesters in front of the US consulate in Shanghai for weeks.

There's a lot more freewheeling messiness here than you'd expect.  A lot more protests, a lot more people trying to assert their legal rights.  A lot more legal rights for individuals.  People say what they want for the most part.  But you probably should be careful about using social media for certain types of political discussion critical of the gov't..

The crackdown on the far west Muslims has been brutal and ugly.  As was the earlier Falun Gong crackdown and reeducation camps.  Organized opposition to the gov't gets put down harshly.  And in political cases even the lawyers often find themselves getting arrested.
Then again minorities get warehoused in jail in the US and treated poorly. 
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« Reply #447 on: January 27, 2021, 02:26:47 AM »

As for the phone health code.  It's a service run through Alipay, one of the two main mobile phone payment systems.  It's voluntary.  I don't have to have it or use it.  But showing a Green health code is necessary in order to access gov't buildings, to get on an airplane or long distance train.  I initially activated it to enter the hospital grounds back in March just after the 2 month quarantine was lifted.  But I couldn't get it to work and they waived me through anyway.  But long since the hospitals just require a facemask and not a health code.  Gov't buildings all year have required a Green health code to enter.  That's the only time I have shown/used the health code.

If your health code turns Yellow or Red, I think all that happens is you get a phone message advising that you were in the area of an infection and should get tested and/or isolate.  But I would have to check to make sure that's still the case. 

It's not as sinister as you presume.  The goal is that anyone who was close to an infected person can be notified and advised to get tested.  Testing and results can be had immediately, since China has lots of free CV resources.  There has been an awareness of the limits of such a system, as someone could be infected on the 10th floor of a building, you live on the 12th floor and it looks like you've been in close proximity.  Though you would use the same elevator, same lobby, open the same doors, etc.  So it probably is worthwhile being alerted and getting tested.

Some other countries have adopted a similar system.  I know Israel has such a phone health code system.  Voluntary but the gov't is actively recruiting/promoting its usage.
And soon enough you'll need to prove that you've been vaccinated to board an airplane or enter a foreign country.  Likely via a somewhat similar phone app.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #448 on: January 27, 2021, 02:45:57 AM »

Except it isn't unconstitutional to impeach a politician after they've left office. 
Otherwise they could do any fucking illegal thing they want in the last month of their term.
There is no such loophole.

It is purely political though.

Yeah... that's politics.  Or are the Republicans too stupid to realize the dems are doing them a big favor by trying to make it so Trump can't hold federal office again.

It's not purely political - as Marco Rubio put it when it was a democrat he was after, not a republican, "there has to be accountability."

Trump cost the government millions by his actions as well as immeasurable pain. To convict him would be to both recover those millions of dollars and to help to heal the pain the insurrection caused, contrary to what the GOP wants to assert.

It is a political process, but it is more than a political action.

If it were only politics, they could go for the 2/3rds to claim he engaged in insurrection without the impeachment trial and that would prevent his running for office.
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