Must see tv, tonight: https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/american-crime-story
Revising history for the Woke Era.
Just so we're clear, Hamster:
When I see a post that uses terms of bigotry or racism, basically any term that reduces a group of people, I will not bother to read further. Terms like woke, appropriated sarcastically, are functionally the same as any other term of bigotry. If there is, in actuality, some reason we should not value being awakened to the past effects of racism and its present reverberations, then make that argument. If you think a traditional view of history is the correct one, and a revision will be false in some way, then make that argument.
I sure Ham will get back to you OC.
But to be clear.
OC did you EVER laugh at a racist or sexist or any type of prejudicial joke which today we might find racist/sexist/prejudicial?
Did you ever do anything in your past, anything, let's say decades ago, which changes in society made you re-examine your behavior?
I have.
But I try to moderate my behavior now and become a better person.
But should I be hung for laughing at a red-neck joke, or a dumb-blonde joke? Or dating a dumb blonde?
Is there a statute of limitations for behavior decades ago?
I think that's the woke line most reasonable people start to balk at.
I've used examples here of the intolerance of the woke.
Pointing their fingers at others, who weren't smart enough to erase posts or tweets or photographs or any other evidence when they were young and dumb.
I read a few weeks ago in this forum some fucking moron compared Hugh Hefner's treatment of women to Hitler's treatment of Jews.
Can you believe that open anti-semitic trope would be allowed in Elba?
Hefner just as bad a Hitler?
And with all the woke motherfuckers in here, I was the only one to question the offensive comparison.
How fucking asleep did that moron have to be to make that comparison?
How indifferent to the extermination of millions of people by a monster did that moron have to be to even draw that comparison?
The fucking hypocrisy is astounding.
WAKE THE FUCK UP.
Like Ham, you support a very specific pro-Israeli wokeness. And are prepared to go all the way across into anyone's ancient history for it.
Boz Im not as much pro-Israel (I've posted my problems with current day Israel) as I am anti-Auschwitz.
You know Poland's WW2 Disney land.
But Stanislaw, change the subject from my specific problem with the Hitler comp, which you seem to ignore, to your false strawman,
I have no problem with your problem with the Hitler comparison. It was at least stupid. I have a problem with people who use concepts like demeaning "woke" to justify or immunize hateful racist or bigoted comments by attacking people.for.pointing out the hate.
You do know I am not Polish, right?
Boz
I'm glad you think the Hitler comp was stupid. You could have said that either 2-3 weeks ago, or earlier today. But you created a false narrative which had nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
Rather you accused me for a pro-Israeli land grab stance which 1) had nothing to do with the idiotic Hitler comparison 2) I have generally not discussed Israel here, (I've generally stayed away from this debate as the sides are too dug in, but have suggested economic plans as a solution) 3) but you seemed comfortable pigeon-holing my views as a Jew.
I wasn't the one using divisive language or explosive examples to isolate and demean a group.
Perhaps you should examine your words in context and explain your thoughts.
As I said I'm anti-Auschwitz which was why I among other reasons the Hitler/Hefner comp was beyond idiotic.
YMMV
I poke fun at the woke, who draw convenient lines of what is acceptable thought, generally to include their own, but to exclude others. To many its a form of shaming and group think. No good will come of it.
I don't know nor care what your ethnicity is. I recall you mentioned your wife's ethnicity, and your faith.