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Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM


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« Reply #30645 on: August 12, 2022, 01:51:54 PM »

"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."

They found 113 emails that contained classified information.

THREE were marked as such.

The DoJ concluded that even those three were  unclearly marked.
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The FBI removed TWELVE BOXES from Mar-a-Lago.

Twelve boxes that Trump did not choose to turn over in JUNE. Twelve boxes that Trump did not choose to turn over in January.

There is clear evidence of INTENTION to keep these records.

These also sound a lot more serious than anything that was in Clinton's emails.

But keep being you, Ward.

Roll on that floor, Laughing Boy. Maybe you can remove the shit that is all over it.
Whooooooosh!
Keep taking those ocean temps and counting Covid cases to stay busy.

Yeah, "whooooosh" all you want, Ward.

It means you have no substantive rebuttal.

Your argument is based on vaporware.

And you think 1,200 deaths per month is something to use to mock me. You are something else.

1,200 people die and you're laughing at me for thinking it worth noting.

The FBI seeks BOXES of documents including nuclear secrets and you compare it to three emails with publicly available information.

Don't swallow any dust bunnies while you're on the floor.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #30646 on: August 12, 2022, 01:52:34 PM »

cnn.com/2022/08/12/us/fbi-cincinnati-office-armed-suspect-what-we-know/index.html

Sure sounds like a right wing nut job after Ward's own heart.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #30647 on: August 12, 2022, 02:37:23 PM »

Woooosh is the sound wards life makes as it goes up in flame.

Where does a mangy biting dog like ward go with no country and no party to succor him?
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« Reply #30648 on: August 12, 2022, 03:13:44 PM »

https://archive.ph/5QsUv - WSJ

FBI Recovered Eleven Sets of Classified Documents in Trump Search, Inventory Shows
Trump allies claim the former president declassified the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago


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FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation agents took around 20 boxes of items, binders of photos, a handwritten note and the executive grant of clemency for Mr. Trump's ally Roger Stone, a list of items removed from the property shows. Also included in the list was information about the "President of France," according to the three-page list. The list is contained in a seven-page document that also includes the warrant to search the premises which was granted by a federal magistrate judge in Florida.

Trump's allies are claiming that, of course, Trump declassified these before bringing them with him to Mar-a-Lago.

However, not even the president can declassify nuclear secrets:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/trump-fbi-raid-classified-nuclear-documents/671119/

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"There is no approval process for the president of the United States to declassify intelligence. There is this phony idea that he must provide notification for declassification but that's just silly. Who is he supposed to notify? I think it's the height of swampism to think the president should seek bureaucrats' approval," Grenell told NBC News, emphasizing that he wasn't personally speaking for the president.

This is absurd. (a) The notification would go to whichever agency oversees said documents. (b) There is a process in place, even though it seems hard to imagine King Trump ever following such a thing.

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Richard Immerman, a historian and an assistant deputy director of national intelligence in the Obama administration, disagreed and said that, while the president has the authority to declassify documents, there's a formal process for doing so, and there's no indication Trump used it.

"He can't just wave a wand and say it's declassified," Immerman said. "There has to be a formal process. That's the only way the system can work," because otherwise there would be no way of knowing who could handle or see the documents.

"I've seen thousands of declassified documents. They're all marked 'declassified' with the date they were declassified," Immerman said. 

That does not appear to have been the case with some of the documents that were returned to the National Archives from Mar-a-Lago this year. Archivist David S. Ferriero, an Obama appointee, said in a letter to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform in February that his agency had "identified items marked as classified national security information within the boxes" from Mar-a-Lago.

Yet again, a Trump ally had a comeback:
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Kash Patel, a Pentagon chief of staff during the Trump administration, told Breitbart News in May that the documents previously recovered from Mar-a-Lago had been declassified by Trump, but their markings were not updated. "Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves," Patel said then.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-allies-say-declassified-mar-lago-documents-experts-say-unclear-w-rcna42311

Kash Patel? Why does that name ring a bell?

Oh, right!

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The United States Department of Defense and the US Army's court filings show that some senior Trump administration members, including former Pentagon official and longtime House Intelligence Committee aide Kashyap 'Kash' Patel, had the text messages from their phones deleted. These deleted messages could show the happenings prior to and leading up to the Jan. 6 attacks on the US Capitol.

On 2 Aug, 2022, the Department of Defense lawyers confirmed that "tied to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by American Oversight, a government watchdog group" has been seeking Jan. 6-related phone records from officials including Patel, acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, and former Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy, according to a report by Bloomberg.

According to the court filings, these three officials were instrumental in getting a better understanding of the government's response to the Jan. 6 Capitol Hill attacks in addition to former US President Donald Trump's response to the unfolding of the riots.
https://www.thequint.com/news/world/indian-american-kash-patel-among-trumps-team-members-whose-phone-records-related-to-jan-6-us-capitol-riots-were-deleted

Kash Patel also denied that Trump delayed or had any hesitance about the National Guard being called in.

How convenient that he deleted his texts - again, in violation of the National Records Act.

Why on Earth would anybody consider his opinion on materials Trump kept to be honest or authoritative?!?
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #30649 on: August 12, 2022, 03:17:31 PM »

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The list includes references to one set of documents marked as "Various classified/TS/SCI documents," an abbreviation that refers to top-secret/sensitive compartmented information. It also says agents collected four sets of top secret documents, three sets of secret documents, and three sets of confidential documents. The list didn't provide any more details about the substance of the documents.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #30650 on: August 12, 2022, 03:24:02 PM »

Ward and Kid seem to quietly approve of the terrorism done on trumps behalf in Ohio yesterday.

They have gone from back the blue to fuck the blue quite completely to remain in step with the republican party.
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« Reply #30651 on: August 12, 2022, 03:27:12 PM »

Ward and Kid seem to quietly approve of the terrorism done on trumps behalf in Ohio yesterday.

They have gone from back the blue to fuck the blue quite completely to remain in step with the republican party.

The anti-law-and-order party.
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« Reply #30652 on: August 12, 2022, 03:47:20 PM »

After the report about nuclear information came out, Trump claimed that Obama "kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified" upon leaving office. Ha noted that many of them had to do with nuclear weapons.

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"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of Obama Presidential records when President Barack Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act (PRA)," NARA said in a statement.

"NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration," the statement from National Archives said.

Figures Trump would try throwing shit when called out.

Trump has not tried to block the release of the search warrant and receipt.

His people have requested (demanded?) that they get a more detailed listing of what was taken.
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« Reply #30653 on: August 12, 2022, 03:58:17 PM »

Sorry, Lying Larry, but you're fucking lost on this one.

Given current rents in DC, you're offering a fantastic deal allowing him free rental of space in your head.


The rent is yours to pay...or should we call it reparations?

 

Bottom line, he lies, and you try to cover up for him.

Don't be such a little bitch.
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« Reply #30654 on: August 12, 2022, 04:00:31 PM »

Ward and Kid seem to quietly approve of the terrorism done on trumps behalf in Ohio yesterday.

They have gone from back the blue to fuck the blue quite completely to remain in step with the republican party.

They're busy working on their "Defund the FBI" posters.
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« Reply #30655 on: August 12, 2022, 04:04:12 PM »

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« Reply #30656 on: August 12, 2022, 04:08:07 PM »

Copy of the warrant found here: https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/r4ifDtO2XZZ8/v0

All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or
other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C.

"Fruits of crime".

Lowhanging fruits of crime, it would appear.
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« Reply #30657 on: August 12, 2022, 04:21:37 PM »

Sorry, Lying Larry, but you're fucking lost on this one.

Given current rents in DC, you're offering a fantastic deal allowing him free rental of space in your head.


The rent is yours to pay...or should we call it reparations?

 

Bottom line, he lies, and you try to cover up for him.

Don't be such a little bitch.

Nice empty airy room, vaulted ceilings, large vacant apertures allow light and air to freely flow through. 
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« Reply #30658 on: August 12, 2022, 04:32:15 PM »

Wow, the DOJ now has Roy Cohns little Nazi client on the same rap as did in Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.

Occasionally one has to marvel at the universes circular sense of humor.
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