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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Yankguy1]

All you need to show me is TESLA sales "slumping badly" in 2022.  All you need to do is show 2021 sales and 2022 sales.  I'll even let you define "slumping badly" at that point.  It sounds like it'll be pretty easy for you. 

And again, you continue to talk about Tesla as if it were the only EV on the market.  For the leading advocate of muscular capitalism here you seem to have a real difficult time understanding why TESLA stock might be falling.

[Hairy Lime]

All you need to show me is TESLA sales "slumping badly" in 2022.  All you need to do is show 2021 sales and 2022 sales.  I'll even let you define "slumping badly" at that point.  It sounds like it'll be pretty easy for you. 

And again, you continue to talk about Tesla as if it were the only EV on the market.  For the leading advocate of muscular capitalism here you seem to have a real difficult time understanding why TESLA stock might be falling.

Come on. He has spent all day Googleing "Chuck Hughes" you cannot expect him to take the time to type 
"Tesla record sales 2022" into a search box.

[LarryB!]

I don't see the word "sales" or "slumping" in the language you've quoted. In reality TESLA sales increased greatly in 2022 albeit by as much as either TESLA or Wall Street predicted. 

In any event, though, you still appear to believe that Teslas are the only EVs.

It is the only EV  manufacturer with full service in  a superior car.
But, as noted, sales of ALL EVs are slumping and the industry has been totally oversold
Electric cars may have a market in certain geographic areas but any idea they will replace gas driven vehicles is a foolish prediction.

Go curry comb your horse

[facilitatorn]

Nice of the GOP to allow the party switch curious members in their ranks time to set their price.

[facilitatorn]

I don't see the word "sales" or "slumping" in the language you've quoted. In reality TESLA sales increased greatly in 2022 albeit by as much as either TESLA or Wall Street predicted. 

In any event, though, you still appear to believe that Teslas are the only EVs.

It is the only EV  manufacturer with full service in  a superior car.
But, as noted, sales of ALL EVs are slumping and the industry has been totally oversold
Electric cars may have a market in certain geographic areas but any idea they will replace gas driven vehicles is a foolish prediction.

Go curry comb your horse

Red is dumb enough that he makes sense to himself. Some days he says something worth poking holes in. This is not one of those days.

[Hairy Lime]

I don't see the word "sales" or "slumping" in the language you've quoted. In reality TESLA sales increased greatly in 2022 albeit by as much as either TESLA or Wall Street predicted. 

In any event, though, you still appear to believe that Teslas are the only EVs.

It is the only EV  manufacturer with full service in  a superior car.
But, as noted, sales of ALL EVs are slumping and the industry has been totally oversold
Electric cars may have a market in certain geographic areas but any idea they will replace gas driven vehicles is a foolish prediction.

Go curry comb your horse

Red is dumb enough that he makes sense to himself. Some days he says something worth poking holes in. This is not one of those days.

Red will do what he always does when easily proven wrong. Ignore it and act like it never happened.

[Espnthree]

All you need to show me is TESLA sales "slumping badly" in 2022.  All you need to do is show 2021 sales and 2022 sales.  I'll even let you define "slumping badly" at that point.  It sounds like it'll be pretty easy for you. 

And it was

Tesla in October lowered its 2022  growth expectations  from its goal of increasing sales  annually by 50%. It would need to sell a record-setting 495,000 cars in the fourth quarter to achieve that growth rate for the year. Instead it got  410,000
Tesla stock took a hit of 65% in 2022.
Today it declined 12%.

If Tesla can not sell EVs at a growing rate no one can.

[Yankguy1]

I'll try again and then I'll again go back into hibernation.  Red said Tesla sales "slumped badly" last year.   By any definition, "slumped badly" would at least mean that sales were less in 2022 than they were in 2021.  All I've asked Red to do is to produce the sales figure from both years.

Instead, he's talked about stock price, corporate sales goals and Wall Street forecasts.  By Red's crack analysis a failure to meet sales growth by 50% constitutes "slumping badly."

Why is it that Red is so reluctant to answer the question?  I mean he's not a moron.  That's Kid.  But it's certainly not a good look.

[Espnthree]

I'll try again and then I'll again go back into hibernation.  Red said Tesla sales "slumped badly" last year.   

Which they did.
The industry leader badly missed its target in sales and its stock plummeted 65% in value.
The future of EVs is not bright if Tesla is losing momentum.
Gasoline powered cars obsolete by 2030?
In your hibernating dreams.

[LarryB!]

All you need to show me is TESLA sales "slumping badly" in 2022.  All you need to do is show 2021 sales and 2022 sales.  I'll even let you define "slumping badly" at that point.  It sounds like it'll be pretty easy for you. 

And it was

Tesla in October lowered its 2022  growth expectations  from its goal of increasing sales  annually by 50%. It would need to sell a record-setting 495,000 cars in the fourth quarter to achieve that growth rate for the year. Instead it got  410,000
Tesla stock took a hit of 65% in 2022.
Today it declined 12%.

If Tesla can not sell EVs at a growing rate no one can.

Stock is tanking because Musk is acting the ass with Twitter

[Espnthree]

I'll try again and then I'll again go back into hibernation.  Red said Tesla sales "slumped badly" last year.   

Which they did.
The industry leader badly missed its target in sales and its stock plummeted 65% in value.
The future of EVs is not bright if Tesla is losing momentum.
Gasoline powered cars obsolete by 2030?
In your hibernating dreams.

You

I see you drifted off to sleep.

[Yankguy1]

You appear to be constitutionally incapable of answering the simplest question, Red.  That's an admirable trait.  I'm leaving your silliness.

I hope your oil company investments continue to make you fat and happy. 

[Espnthree]

You appear to be constitutionally incapable of answering the simplest question, Red.  That's an admirable trait.  I'm leaving your silliness.

constitutionally incapable ?
I answered the question like any average American would.
A successful company loses its grip on success when it cannot meet expectations(its own or that of industry experts) and goes down in value. As Tesla did in 2022.

I hope your oil company investments continue to make you fat and happy.

Thanks. They will until something comes along that is better.
EVs are not. Neither are windmills and/or solar panels.
Enjoy your nap.

[Yankguy1]

So I guess you are unable to find the sales figures.

[facilitatorn]

Global PEV sales up 55 percent year on year.

BYD makes a better product than Tesla and is eating their lunch in the growing global market.

Scalable battery tech is where it is at.

Red huffs lead.