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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[LarryB!]

When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men would be guaranteed the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check which has come back marked insufficient funds. But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice. We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to open the doors of opportunity to all of Gods children. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood.

Martin Luther King, Jr
August 28, 1963

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/16/2147597/-Fmr-MAGA-Republican-candidate-arrested-in-shootings-targeting-Democratic-politicians-homes

Quality people, those republicans.

[Hairy Lime]

Adam Schiff has thrown Biden under the bus.
Schiff is a pencil necked lying geek but he has this one  right.
Biden had no authority to have ANY classified  documents as Vice President but he did.
His stupidity( at best) ) blew up the Mar a Lago case against Trump.
Biden is toast.

MUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

heh

Normally I would just point out that RedDick is a PROVEN LIAR but his last lie is an interesting intersection between two right wing bubble lies: that under Biden DoJ has become politically weaponized, and that there is some correlation between what Trump did and what Biden did. The affidavit backing the Trump search warrant cited three statutes: the espionage act (which includes showing classified documents to any unauthorized person, including a journalist you are sleeping with or a Mar a Lago party guest), obstruction and willfully withholding official documents. None of those appear at play here, since Biden has been handing over the documents as they are found, and Trump most decidedly did not. DoJ is perfectly capable of drawing obvious distinctions and making prosecutorial judgments.

There is also knowingly mishandling classified documents, but RedDick pretends part of that offense does not exist. And while there is plenty of evidence Trump violated this law as well, especially since he continued to retain them after specifically being to what he was doing was a violation,  Biden voluntarily turning the documents over as they are discovered makes the knowledge element difficult to show.

I acknowledged (and you agreed) that Trump was wrong to hold on to the Classified Documents at the time of the Mar A Lago raid.

Which brings in a second lie: the whole weaponization myth. It is not weaponization for DoJ to investigate conservatives for their crimes. It is not the fault of the Biden administration that the Repos were, and are, led by a morally corrupt buffoon and monomaniac who has spent his entire life lying, cheating and circumventing laws. DoJ will not be basing prosecution on the whether the political optics look good for the Biden administration.

A bit over dramatic  ,even from a partisan, but not worth quibbling about.

DoJ will not be basing prosecution on the weather(sic) the political optics look good for the Biden administration.

Irrelevant and immaterial since the presence of the documents at his home and office are prima facie evidence of his mishandling of classified documents. The punishment for the misconduct, however, will be left up to the voters, as it should be.

I have not found any article attributing any comment to Schiff remotely like the one PROVEN LIAR RedDick cites. As reported by RedDick it is obviously wrong, so I think RedDick just garbled the info dump into his brain from the right wing bubble he gets all of his opinions from. The VP obviously gets access to sorts of assigned documents.  What Schiff did say, because unlike the Repos who have their mouths permanently stitched to Trump s a us, he gives a shit about National Security, is that we need an intelligence assessment of the potential damage done by Biden having classified documents in his office and home.

Must not have tried very hard.

From Politico and Slate both on the far left of the Political spectrum.



Rep. Adam Schiff, who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, said that as far as he is concerned there is direct evidence of collusion between Donald Trump s presidential campaign and Russia. Specifically, Schiff says that the 2016 offer from a Russian lawyer for information on Hillary Clinton to members of Trump presidential campaign and Russia. Specifically, Schiff says that the 2016 offer from a Russian lawyer for information on Hillary Clinton to members of the Trump campaign is the smoking gun. I think there is direct evidence in the emails from the Russians through their intermediary offering dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of what is described in writing as the Russian government effort to help elect Donald Trump, Schiff said on CBS Face the Nation, when he was asked if he had direct evidence of collusion with Russia.

If you claim to be a lawyer is it too much to ask that you behave as one?
[/quote]A Venn Diagram of "Supporting your claim as to what Schiff said" and "That quote" would be two independent circles separated by so much space as to make one doubt the existence of a space time continuum

[Hairy Lime]

I am fairly sure that if the progressives in Congress try to do away with gas stoves

Liar

Congress will be dissolved.
This is,after all, America.

Liar. The space in your head is firy up your own ass, which is itself in a right wing bubble located in Cloud Cuckooland.

[Espnthree]

If you claim to be a lawyer is it too much to ask that you behave as one?
A Venn Diagram of "Supporting your claim as to what Schiff said" and "That quote" would be two independent circles separated by so much space as to make one doubt the existence of a space time continuum

What, exactly, is your point, assuming you are trying to prove one.?

[Espnthree]

Best Lines of the day


 Dilbert creator Scott Adams
My theory is that Biden leaves a trail of classified documents wherever he goes so he can find his way back.


And Babylon Bee made Twitter CEO Elon Musk laugh
DOJ Indicts Trump For Biden s Possession Of Classified Documents.

[Hairy Lime]

Moron still needs a dictionary.

ROFL!
I could not have had a better setup.
Slam Dunk!

Nor could I.

I suspect that PROVEN LIAR RedDick thinks that calling someone a nihilist is somehow a supreme dick waving epic put down, rather then further evidence that he does not own a dictionary.

[Oil Filter]

...This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism....
Martin Luther King, Jr

I can't put things as well as Dr. K, but I'll try putting it like this: telling people to wait for justice is like telling someone with collapsed lungs to wait for oxygen. 

[Oil Filter]

A Venn Diagram of "Supporting your claim as to what Schiff said" and "That quote" would be two independent circles separated by so much space as to make one doubt the existence of a space time continuum

What, exactly, is your point, assuming you are trying to prove one.?

Your Schiff quote did not at all show what you claimed he said, you giant flaming dumpster of shit.  Clearer?

[Espnthree]

A Venn Diagram of "Supporting your claim as to what Schiff said" and "That quote" would be two independent circles separated by so much space as to make one doubt the existence of a space time continuum

What, exactly, is your point, assuming you are trying to prove one.?

Your Schiff quote did not at all show what you claimed he said, you giant flaming dumpster of shit.  Clearer?

Quite the opposite.
Unless Schiff using the term[/i] smoking gun[/i] is somehow not in your dictionary.
But I am sure Harry is grateful for your support no matter its stupidity.

SMOKING GUN
: something that serves as conclusive evidence or proof (as of a crime or scientific theory)
(Merriam-Webster)

[bambu.]

Fancy speeches, written by professional speech writers...anyone can deliver them.
When though will the West be delivering more powerful weapons to Ukraine to stop the slaughter there by evil Russia?

[Hairy Lime]

A Venn Diagram of "Supporting your claim as to what Schiff said" and "That quote" would be two independent circles separated by so much space as to make one doubt the existence of a space time continuum

What, exactly, is your point, assuming you are trying to prove one.?

Your Schiff quote did not at all show what you claimed he said, you giant flaming dumpster of shit.  Clearer?

Quite the opposite.
Unless Schiff using the term[/i] smoking gun[/i] is somehow not in your dictionary.
But I am sure Harry is grateful for your support no matter its stupidity.

SMOKING GUN
: something that serves as conclusive evidence or proof (as of a crime or scientific theory)
(Merriam-Webster)

Once again, you try to justify claiming Schiff said a VP has no right to classified documents with something that 🐻 🐻 absolutely no relationship with that assertion you colossal lying turd.

[Espnthree]

A Venn Diagram of "Supporting your claim as to what Schiff said" and "That quote" would be two independent circles separated by so much space as to make one doubt the existence of a space time continuum

What, exactly, is your point, assuming you are trying to prove one.?

Your Schiff quote did not at all show what you claimed he said, you giant flaming dumpster of shit.  Clearer?

Quite the opposite.
Unless Schiff using the term[/i] smoking gun[/i] is somehow not in your dictionary.
But I am sure Harry is grateful for your support no matter its stupidity.

SMOKING GUN
: something that serves as conclusive evidence or proof (as of a crime or scientific theory)
(Merriam-Webster)

Once again, you try to justify claiming Schiff said a VP has no right to classified documents with something that 🐻 🐻 absolutely no relationship with that assertion you colossal lying turd.

no, I said a VP has no right to classified documents.
My post.:

Adam Schiff has thrown Biden under the bus.
Schiff is a pencil necked lying geek but he has this one  right.
Biden had no authority to have ANY classified  documents as Vice President but he did.
His stupidity( at best) ) blew up the Mar a Lago case against Trump.
Biden is toast.

[Hairy Lime]

A Venn Diagram of "Supporting your claim as to what Schiff said" and "That quote" would be two independent circles separated by so much space as to make one doubt the existence of a space time continuum

What, exactly, is your point, assuming you are trying to prove one.?

Your Schiff quote did not at all show what you claimed he said, you giant flaming dumpster of shit.  Clearer?

Quite the opposite.
Unless Schiff using the term[/i] smoking gun[/i] is somehow not in your dictionary.
But I am sure Harry is grateful for your support no matter its stupidity.

SMOKING GUN
: something that serves as conclusive evidence or proof (as of a crime or scientific theory)
(Merriam-Webster)

Once again, you try to justify claiming Schiff said a VP has no right to classified documents with something that 🐻 🐻 absolutely no relationship with that assertion you colossal lying turd.

no, I said a VP has no right to classified documents.
My post.:

Adam Schiff has thrown Biden under the bus.
Schiff is a pencil necked lying geek but he has this one  right.
Biden had no authority to have ANY classified  documents as Vice President but he did.
His stupidity( at best) ) blew up the Mar a Lago case against Trump.
Biden is toast.

Then, 1. Your quote still has no relationship to your comment about Schiff, and
2. If the statement that Biden had no authority to have any classified documents was from you, you are a stone idiot, even more than I thought.

[Espnthree]

A Venn Diagram of "Supporting your claim as to what Schiff said" and "That quote" would be two independent circles separated by so much space as to make one doubt the existence of a space time continuum

What, exactly, is your point, assuming you are trying to prove one.?

Your Schiff quote did not at all show what you claimed he said, you giant flaming dumpster of shit.  Clearer?

Quite the opposite.
Unless Schiff using the term[/i] smoking gun[/i] is somehow not in your dictionary.
But I am sure Harry is grateful for your support no matter its stupidity.

SMOKING GUN
: something that serves as conclusive evidence or proof (as of a crime or scientific theory)
(Merriam-Webster)

Once again, you try to justify claiming Schiff said a VP has no right to classified documents with something that 🐻 🐻 absolutely no relationship with that assertion you colossal lying turd.

no, I said a VP has no right to classified documents.
My post.:

Adam Schiff has thrown Biden under the bus.
Schiff is a pencil necked lying geek but he has this one  right.
Biden had no authority to have ANY classified  documents as Vice President but he did.
His stupidity( at best) ) blew up the Mar a Lago case against Trump.
Biden is toast.

Then, 1. Your quote still has no relationship to your comment about Schiff, and
2. If the statement that Biden had no authority to have any classified documents was from you, you are a stone idiot, even more than I thought.

Then (1) English must be second language for you and
(2) you are clueless on the law.
Just as I thought.