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HamiltonIII

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Re: American League
« Reply #1245 on: December 18, 2018, 09:56:07 AM »

there was nothhing personnel-I agreed with the poster who characterized your opinion as a "dumfukk" take,

and nothing you've posted since would change my mind.

btw with your recent name change you may be Elba's first 5-troll poster

or now that I start recalling them, it might be 6, 7 or 8

heh

You seem to be under a lot of stress. Hope you get the help you need. Tough time of year for those dealing with depression.

Good luck.

Oh, and get a spell check app. Might help you be better understood by others.

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bankshot1

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Re: American League
« Reply #1246 on: December 18, 2018, 11:18:35 AM »

there was nothhing personnel-I agreed with the poster who characterized your opinion as a "dumfukk" take,

and nothing you've posted since would change my mind.

btw with your recent name change you may be Elba's first 5-troll poster

or now that I start recalling them, it might be 6, 7 or 8

heh

You seem to be under a lot of stress. Hope you get the help you need. Tough time of year for those dealing with depression.

Good luck.

Oh, and get a spell check app. Might help you be better understood by others.

The topic under discussion was the best player you had seen personally. I took that to mean actually being in the ballpark watching them play.

I and others mentioned several players we individually thought answered the question.

Yaz was the last name I offered, and I gave reasons why he belonged in the discussion, mostly becasue he was the best player in baseball as measured by WAR in the '67-70 period. But i could have gone with multiple batting titles (3) or  OPS leader (4), GG (7), or AS appearances (18). And i had seen him and a few others personally, so he seemed like a good name to mention.

You're obssession with anti-Boston then led you to an idiotic argument about WS success diminshing Yaz as a player. and had little to do with the discussion at hand.

And it was contested by me and others.

And other than finding a few last minute stocking stuffers, stress seems under control.

I hope you enjoy "Baseball for Dummies" I found for you. It should help you understand the game.

Happy Holidays

and not that it makes a whole lot of difference, I don't know where you're getting your stats, but Yaz's WAR in '67 was 12.5, and Morgan's was 11.0 in '75.

And Yaz's 12.5 in '67 was the highest WAR since Babe Ruth's WAR in 1921 and 1923.

Yaz was that good in '67.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_bat_season.shtml

 
« Last Edit: December 18, 2018, 11:26:58 AM by bankshot1 »
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HamiltonIII

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Re: American League
« Reply #1247 on: December 18, 2018, 12:03:48 PM »

Not winning championships is a marker, just the way it is.

I don't think you invented baseball, and there is no template for being a fan of the game, so hop off the high horse, cowboy.

Meantime, you are correct, I misquoted Morgan's WAR. Used another source, and don't recall which one, at the moment.

I was perusing that baseball-reference site, though, and found another reason to rank Morgan ahead of Yaz. Check out this list:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Baseball's_100_Greatest_Players

I "personally saw" (your words) the following players on that list: 

Willie Mays
 
Hank Aaron
Johnny Bench
Mickey Mantle
 
Roberto Clemente
Warren Spahn
Frank Robinson
 
Pete Rose
Sandy Koufax
 
Mike Schmidt
 
Steve Carlton
Bob Gibson
Tom Seaver
 
Barry Bonds
 
Ernie Banks
Greg Maddux
 
Nolan Ryan
 
Reggie Jackson
Tony Gwynn
 
Rickey Henderson
 
Roger Clemens
 
George Brett
Willie McCovey
 
Lou Brock
 
Joe Morgan
Rod Carew
 
Eddie Mathews
Jim Palmer
 
 
Harmon Killebrew
 
Juan Marichal
Carl Yastrzemski
 
Al Kaline
Eddie Murray
Cal Ripken, Jr.
 
Brooks Robinson
Willie Stargell
 
 
Kirby Puckett
Ozzie Smith
 
Goose Goslin
 
Mark McGwire
 
Ken Griffey, Jr.
Dave Winfield
Wade Boggs
Rollie Fingers
Gaylord Perry
Dennis Eckersley
Paul Molitor
 

A little surprised Robin Yount isn't also on that greatest 100 players list.

 Enjoy your Yaz.

 ;)
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Re: American League
« Reply #1248 on: December 18, 2018, 12:11:12 PM »

Oh, one more thing. Wins matter:

Offensive Winning Percentage The percentage of games a team with nine of this player batting would win. Assumes average pitching and defense.

Joe Morgan: .702
Yaz: .677

Have a super day!
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Re: American League
« Reply #1249 on: December 18, 2018, 12:17:55 PM »

HEH

I did enjoy watching Yaz he was a great ballplayer.

probably as much as you enjoyed personally watching Goose Goslin, who's final game was in 1938.

and wins do matter but, its not a fantasy game, its a team game.

You might want to return "Baseball for Dummies" it might be too advanced for you.

Happy Holidays

Ho-ho-heh
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Re: American League
« Reply #1250 on: December 18, 2018, 12:56:24 PM »

Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?



Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.

In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090



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Re: American League
« Reply #1251 on: December 18, 2018, 01:03:25 PM »

Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?



Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.

In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090

HEH

wrong again troll

I'm not pissed but amused by your idiocy.

you got challenged by several posters on your irrelavant inclusion of a team statistic, when the topic was individual performance, so you got defensive and decided insults were the way to go.

you made the wrong choice moron.

SSDD

Goose Goslin

heh
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HamiltonIII

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Re: American League
« Reply #1253 on: December 18, 2018, 01:31:58 PM »

Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?



Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.

In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090

HEH

wrong again troll

I'm not pissed but amused by your idiocy.

you got challenged by several posters on your irrelavant inclusion of a team statistic, when the topic was individual performance, so you got defensive and decided insults were the way to go.

you made the wrong choice moron.

SSDD

Goose Goslin

heh

Yes, that was an error of deletion. But nice if you to ignore the actual argument that trumped yours.

Obviously, you remain confused.

Addled easily.

The insults were all yours in the making.

AMT. It really can help.

Good luck, addled one.

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Yankguy1

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Re: American League
« Reply #1254 on: December 18, 2018, 02:01:56 PM »

Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game. 

In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
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Re: American League
« Reply #1255 on: December 18, 2018, 02:23:03 PM »

Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?



Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.

In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090

HEH

wrong again troll

I'm not pissed but amused by your idiocy.

you got challenged by several posters on your irrelavant inclusion of a team statistic, when the topic was individual performance, so you got defensive and decided insults were the way to go.

you made the wrong choice moron.

SSDD

Goose Goslin

heh

Yes, that was an error of deletion. But nice if you to ignore the actual argument that trumped yours.

Obviously, you remain confused.

Addled easily.

The insults were all yours in the making.

AMT. It really can help.

Good luck, addled one.

HEH

another E on the troll

SSDD

troll you trumped nothing,

The topic was "best player you saw personally"

I listed about 8 guys I saw play in person.

Nice to know you have corrected my memory about the players I saw in person.

You are a moron.

E-troll hat trick

SSDD
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Re: American League
« Reply #1256 on: December 18, 2018, 02:26:25 PM »

Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game. 

In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.

He did in the (IIRC) in 2nd inning.

Little over-anxious that last AB.

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HamiltonIII

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Re: American League
« Reply #1257 on: December 18, 2018, 02:29:56 PM »

Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game. 

In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.

So...he choked. Would that be a fair assessment?

Meanwhile in Game 7 of 1975 Series, Joe Morgan delivered the GWRBI.

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Re: American League
« Reply #1258 on: December 18, 2018, 02:33:03 PM »

heh

so obsessed

poor sad troll
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Re: American League
« Reply #1259 on: December 18, 2018, 02:39:48 PM »

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