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When do yo think the MLB regular season will start?

On time
- 1 (33.3%)
Late, but on or before April 15th
- 0 (0%)
April 16th through April 30th
- 0 (0%)
May 1st through May 15th
- 2 (66.7%)
May 16th through May 31st
- 0 (0%)
Jun1st through June 15th
- 0 (0%)
June 16th through June 30th
- 0 (0%)
After June 30th
- 0 (0%)
No Season
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: February 13, 2022, 10:41:25 PM


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« Reply #1395 on: January 22, 2019, 08:21:46 PM »
No he shouldn't have been the first... but if poor decisions were made in the past it's no excuse to carry on the tradition.

He often (especially in the most pressure-filled games) was asked to go more than 1 inning.

He was a 2 inning guy when he first burst onto the national scene, setting up rather than closing.
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« Reply #1396 on: January 22, 2019, 08:25:11 PM »
Part - time player is a little bit of an anachronism.  These days your starting pitcher might only go 5-6 innings every 5 days and thats considered ok.

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Re: Major League Baseball
« Reply #1397 on: January 22, 2019, 08:33:56 PM »
Quote from: josh on January 22, 2019, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: bankshot1 on January 22, 2019, 06:23:23 PM
Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF

and Mo gets 100%.

Could have sworn somebody - oh, right, the Worcester writer - said he wouldn't be voting for Rivera!
He said he wasn't going to cast a ballot at all which perserved the 100%.
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Re: Major League Baseball
« Reply #1398 on: January 22, 2019, 09:27:59 PM »
Yes!

Mussina!

Excellent job, writers

Schilling next (sorry, dickass Michael Kay)
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« Reply #1399 on: January 22, 2019, 11:02:11 PM »
Quote from: Kam on January 22, 2019, 08:25:11 PM
Part - time player is a little bit of an anachronism.  These days your starting pitcher might only go 5-6 innings every 5 days and thats considered ok.

90%+ of Mo's HoF work was done within a 1-inning appearance.

Can't speak for boz, but I used the part-time description as a TIC phrase to mock the foolishness some use to diminish the role/importance of relievers who may only pitch 1 inning or a DH who's only glove is a batting glove.

and a 5 inning start might be ok in the post-season/WS, but a 5-inning regular season guy is a bullpen killer, and not highly prized in the regular season.
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« Reply #1400 on: January 23, 2019, 08:27:50 AM »
If you throw "only one pitch and one inning" for decades, and no one can hit that pitch, you're 100 per cent a HOFer.

Halladay should go in as a Blue Jay. Who will speak for him?

Mussina was overdue, and helps Jamie Moyer's case.

Martinez was put in to make it easier for steroid user Ortiz to get in.

Crime Dog got screwed.

Pete Rose still screwed---MLB supports and earns money from sanctioning gambling, but Rose isnt "moral" enough to enter Cooperstown. Joke!

And writers shouldn't be given a vote, because they get paid to report the news, not create the news.

That is all.

Back to Harper, Machado, Keuchel...
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Re: Major League Baseball
« Reply #1401 on: January 23, 2019, 01:43:42 PM »
Quote from: whiskeypriest on January 22, 2019, 06:45:44 PM
Quote from: bankshot1 on January 22, 2019, 06:23:23 PM
Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF

and Mo gets 100%.
"A part time player. 100"?"

- Idiots everywhere.

Clemens and Bonds inched up, Mr. Catsup soaked sock took a 9 + point leap.

Omar up 5%. ManRam holds steady.

Many of these guys will get in via the new improved vets committee

Smoltz today said that McGriff, who struggled in writer balloting, would surely enter via that avenue

I certainly see if for Schilland likely Manny as well.
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« Reply #1402 on: January 23, 2019, 02:00:36 PM »
"Missing helps Jamie Moyet's case"

No.

One was consistently excellent

The other simply not.
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Re: Major League Baseball
« Reply #1403 on: January 23, 2019, 02:52:51 PM »
 Moyer: 25 years in the majors. Just four other pitchers played that long.

 269-209 record and a 4.25 ERA, ranks 16th all-time in games started (638) and 35th in victories.

Only 34 wins came before age 30. Let that sink in. 235 wins after turning 30. That is artistry.

For age 30 and older pitchers the numbers are:


WINS
1 Cy Young 316
2 Phil Niekro 287
3 Warren Spahn 277
4 Gaylord Perry 238
5. Jamie Moyer 235
6 Randy Johnson 227
7 Early Wynn 217
T8 Grover C Alexander 213
T8 Lefty Grove 213
10 Greg Maddux 205


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« Reply #1404 on: January 23, 2019, 03:29:38 PM »
Quote from: HamiltonIII on January 23, 2019, 02:52:51 PM
Only 34 wins came before age 30. Let that sink in. 235 wins after turning 30. That is artistry.

Had he played more for the Red Sox, you'd be claiming it was steroids, not artistry!

You are too funny.

He does still lead the majors in one career category: most home runs given up.
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« Reply #1405 on: January 23, 2019, 03:33:12 PM »
I'm not sure the HR thing is a great argument AGAINST Moyer when you note who comes right after him. 
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« Reply #1406 on: January 23, 2019, 03:37:19 PM »
Quote from: Yankguy1 on January 23, 2019, 03:33:12 PM
I'm not sure the HR thing is a great argument AGAINST Moyer when you note who comes right after him.

It is not an argument against him or for him, just a note that it is the only thing he led in for his career.

Mussina is not an argument for Moyer, that's all.
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« Reply #1407 on: January 23, 2019, 03:38:22 PM »
Gotcha.
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« Reply #1408 on: January 23, 2019, 06:38:07 PM »
The Hall of Fame is not for people who remain mediocre for a very very long time.
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« Reply #1409 on: January 23, 2019, 06:54:40 PM »
Talkin about Moyer like he's Biggio.  Funny.
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