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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

And another one gone, and another one gone. Another one bites the dust!

Johnny Isakson's leaving at the end of 2019.

Suffering from Parkinson's.  Your concern and appreciation for his service is noted.

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/01/white-americans-support-welfare-programs-but-only-for-themselves-says-new-research/?fbclid=IwAR2he-sZ5oLLOB30ELSnY04JF6ZORDMS74IfU_0P9iQCdShlRwx6_Oh7n60

Whitening?

Why, yes.

The nation's not whitening, dude.

[josh]

And another one gone, and another one gone. Another one bites the dust!

Johnny Isakson's leaving at the end of 2019.

Suffering from Parkinson's.  Your concern and appreciation for his service is noted.

My father died from Parkinson's. He got just as much concern from me as Johnny Isakson.

For his service, he gets far less appreciation - he worked consistently to make sure that the poor and middle class had less access to medical treatment than he has had. He worked against the rights of immigrants and worked against gun control despite his declaration after the Douglas High shooting to stop this from ever happening again.

And his steadfast work to block efforts to deal with climate change are part of what is damning a substantial part of the world's population to death or poverty and moving, for some.

Appreciation? I'm sorry he's sick but thrilled he's gone. And I am less sorry that he's sick than I would have been had he been a good man.

[josh]

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/01/white-americans-support-welfare-programs-but-only-for-themselves-says-new-research/?fbclid=IwAR2he-sZ5oLLOB30ELSnY04JF6ZORDMS74IfU_0P9iQCdShlRwx6_Oh7n60

Whitening?

Why, yes.

The nation's not whitening, dude.

No, but it is not the GOP's fault, dude. The less than clever approach to immigration and to deportations helps to illustrate that they are trying. Ditto the effort to restrict citizenwhip to military member's overseas kids.

All cut from the same cloth.

It won't do the job. The handwriting on the wall is writ large. But the effort, while as doomed as the effort to shut schools in VA rather than integrate them, is still there.

But no doubt you would have claimed back then that it wasn't racist to shut the schools.

And, as ever, you reserve your sympathy for poking others and for those who are cruel to the vulnerable.

You must be sooooo proud of yourself!

[josh]

Slowing growth is not the same thing as a recession


https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/investing/economy-recession-fears-slowdown/index.html

"Yes, the yield curve in the United States is now inverted -- a signal from the bond market that often occurs before a recession."

A slight underselling of the point, there, wouldn't you say?

This was written over a year ago, discussion why the inversion has come before every recession since 1970:
https://www.chicagofed.org/publications/chicago-fed-letter/2018/404

I'd prefer we not get one, but I don't think betting we won't is wise.

And neither does the president, or he wouldn't be blasting his own appointee for not dropping the rates further, faster.

[josh]

'A Death Sentence': Trump Reportedly Moving to Deport Kids With Cancer, HIV, and Other Deadly Illnesses
"This is a new low for Trump. The administration is now literally deporting kids with cancer."

from COMMONDREAMS.ORG

This needs to be further addressed.  Maddow grabbed it and ran last night by using HALF the reopoirt and leaving out that ICE is taking over the application process for families wishing to stay due to medical concerns.

Painted it as - GET OUT IN 33 DAYS - no further options - while this is simply not the case.  Sure did make Trump look bad though eh, Rache?

Josh?  What say you?

Gee, Kid.

You asked me to address your post.

I addressed it. Here I am again, waiting for you to respond to my questions. Again. Like always.

Kid? What say you?

Do you deny this part of the story? etc.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.theweek.com/articles/861042/donald-trump-picking-pocket

Embezzlement bankruptcy embezzlement bankruptcy embezzlement bankruptcy fraud.

It’s a good thing cadet bone spurs took over the GOP much more thoroughly than he controls the country from the White House. America only benefits from the GOP succumbing to that fatal parasite while its looking more and more like the country as a whole will fight him off even if it means disposing of its deformed and malignant right wing.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.vox.com/2019/8/28/20836544/william-barr-trump-hotel-party-emoluments-corruption

[kiidcarter8]

Thanks for the link.

Better get Daniel and Tara on this STAT.

[luee]

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/01/white-americans-support-welfare-programs-but-only-for-themselves-says-new-research/?fbclid=IwAR2he-sZ5oLLOB30ELSnY04JF6ZORDMS74IfU_0P9iQCdShlRwx6_Oh7n60

Whitening?

Why, yes.

Opposing chain migration and respecting the laws is not racist or a Nazi plot to many. More like opposing a liberal elite attempt to win elections with an impossible lost cause that would bankrupt the social service infrastructure and create unfair competition for blue collar jobs.

The nation's not whitening, dude.

No, but it is not the GOP's fault, dude. The less than clever approach to immigration and to deportations helps to illustrate that they are trying. Ditto the effort to restrict citizenwhip to military member's overseas kids.

All cut from the same cloth.

It won't do the job. The handwriting on the wall is writ large. But the effort, while as doomed as the effort to shut schools in VA rather than integrate them, is still there.

But no doubt you would have claimed back then that it wasn't racist to shut the schools.

And, as ever, you reserve your sympathy for poking others and for those who are cruel to the vulnerable.

You must be sooooo proud of yourself!

[barton]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/29/the-air-conditioning-trap-how-cold-air-is-heating-the-world

It's interesting to read this while living in one of those areas (mainly northwest mountain states, Alaska, and the Pacific coast north of SF) where AC remains unnecessary.   One of life's little pleasures here is, if the house got a bit warm during the day, you just open the windows after dinner and, boom, instant AC.   Shut them before going to work and the house holds the cool and stays comfortable all day.   Amazing to think most of the world used this method prior to the mid-20th century, including places where that now strikes most as unthinkable.   In hotter climates, people would use a sleeping porch in the summer, if they could afford it, basically a screened in porch or gazebo.   

[luee]

Staying in the Tampa area, the screened porches are called lanais from the Hawaiian. Very uncomfortable to sleep in the mostly 80s and 90s. Surprisingly utility bills are over 50% lower than in the northeast. First hurricane of the season Dorian is coming.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Concern for the future tops need for punishment of the past.

Yes.  President Trump's vision for the US and the world is ultra proper.

It’s all in the past, uh huh.  Let’s move on.  Except…Russia is suspected of assassinating a Chechen dissident in Berlin yesterday.  US intelligence has warned, repeatedly, that Russia is actively looking to interfere in 2020.  And as Bo points out, Russia’s illegal occupation of territories continues today.

But let’s talk about the past…

In the 2012 election then candidate Mitt Romney described Russia as the biggest threat to the United States out there, bigger than Islamic extremist terrorism.  He was mocked by some at the time, but whatever you think of the truth of it, this was the position of the Republican Nominee for President of the United States seven years ago. 

In 2014 Sen. John McCain wrote a column that was published in Russia in which he said that Putin “rules by corruption, repression and violence” and said that his regime was allied with “some of the world’s most offensive and threatening tyrannies.”

In 2017 the Republican-led Senate voted overwhelmingly to increase sanctions on Russia, 97-2.  Republicans issued the statement “It’s time to respond to Russia’s attack on American democracy with strength, with resolve, with common purpose, and with action.”

In 2018 Lindsay Graham said that Russian interference in our election was “a big deal” and that “we need more sanctions, not less.”

That same year, Paul Ryan called Russia “a menacing government that does not share our interests and does not share our values.”

But now just a year later we should let bygones be bygones and accept Putin back into our good graces because it’s what Trump wants and we have no reason, absolutely none, to think that despite its contradicting the long held position of his party, Trump’s position on Putin isn’t “ultra proper.”

You are too ridiculous kiidcarter8.  I stand by my previous comments regarding your undying defense of the indefensible Trump; it’s pathetic.

President Donald Trump is heavily considering a plan to block $250 million in military assistance to Ukraine, a move that would further ingratiate him to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Such a decision, which was first reported by Politico, would likely prompt bipartisan uproar from members of Congress who believe US aid is essential to countering Russia's military involvement there.

Multiple sources familiar with the issue tell CNN that the President has floated the idea of halting the funding program for weeks. The White House has recently notified relevant agencies and congressional committees of its intent to block the aid to Ukraine, one source said.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/29/politics/trump-ukraine-military-assistance/index.html

[kiidcarter8]

US closing in on agreement with Taliban

[NeedsAdjustments]

US closing in on agreement with Taliban

As Washington mulls a full withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, Moscow is angling to take a leading role in the country’s future as part of a broader effort to counter the United States and NATO in the region.

While U.S. officials tout progress in peace talks with the Taliban, Russia has been quietly conducting a parallel effort, hosting a landmark diplomatic conference in Moscow in November 2018 that was attended by a Taliban delegation and several members of the Afghan government’s High Peace Council, as well as representatives from major players in the region including Pakistan, Iran, and China. A representative from the U.S. Embassy in Moscow also attended as an observer...

Experts say Russia views involvement in the Afghan conflict as another way to undermine the United States and NATO on the world stage—and in particular in regions that Moscow sees part of its sphere of influence. Several former Soviet republics border Afghanistan to the north.

“I think in general in the last few years Russia has seen in Afghanistan an opportunity to, in a much more muted way, open up more of an assertive or contentious front against the United States and NATO, which they see as adversaries,” said Jason Campbell, an expert at the Rand Corp. who until September 2018 served as country director for Afghanistan at the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/01/31/us-mulls-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-russia-wants-back-in-taliban-peace-talks/