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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19635 on: August 28, 2019, 06:58:33 PM »

Impeachment investigation autumn is only days away. If trump sees his shadow, he’ll ramp up a trade war or launch an immigration crack down, and slide a few more points in the polls.

Is he crazy or does he just suck?

Either way he’s go to go.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19636 on: August 28, 2019, 07:58:10 PM »

“Fox News isn’t supposed to work for you,”

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d66b282e4b063c341f990b1

The memo hasn’t made it all the way around yet, apparently.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19637 on: August 28, 2019, 08:15:31 PM »

YouTube disabled 210 accounts for spreading disinformation about Hong Kong protests.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19638 on: August 28, 2019, 08:18:00 PM »

DeeJ is correct.  Not worth anyone's time engaging with someone who is always right.   Let the Cato Institute parrot squawk.

Barton,  Glad you agree with me about Jim (that is his real name). I don't know everything about everything like Jim thinks he does, but I do know JIM and he is not worth wasting time on.
Kiiiiid and the Moron from  Downunder can't help being stupid, Jim has made it his goal in life and he has perfected the art of willful ignorance.

The love child of the youthful dalliance between Thomas and Scalia. But which one carried the child and how did it wind up here?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19639 on: August 28, 2019, 08:31:57 PM »

DeeJ is correct.  Not worth anyone's time engaging with someone who is always right.   Let the Cato Institute parrot squawk.

Barton,  Glad you agree with me about Jim (that is his real name). I don't know everything about everything like Jim thinks he does, but I do know JIM and he is not worth wasting time on.
Kiiiiid and the Moron from  Downunder can't help being stupid, Jim has made it his goal in life and he has perfected the art of willful ignorance.

The love child of the youthful dalliance between Thomas and Scalia. But which one carried the child and how did it wind up here?

I'm going to need something strong to burn that mental image out of my head!   

Well, Pippi Longstocking Greta Thunberg just arrived in NY on a sailboat - maybe if I focus on something like that.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19640 on: August 28, 2019, 08:39:07 PM »


'A Death Sentence': Trump Reportedly Moving to Deport Kids With Cancer, HIV, and Other Deadly Illnesses
"This is a new low for Trump. The administration is now literally deporting kids with cancer."

from COMMONDREAMS.ORG

This needs to be further addressed.  Maddow grabbed it and ran last night by using HALF the reopoirt and leaving out that ICE is taking over the application process for families wishing to stay due to medical concerns.

Painted it as - GET OUT IN 33 DAYS - no further options - while this is simply not the case.  Sure did make Trump look bad though eh, Rache?

Josh?  What say you?

The poster who almost never answers a question wants me to answer his question.

TFF.

But okay. Let's address it.

I posted a quote and a source.

You posted a claim that Maddow was wrong, but you posted no link and no actual quote.

I say you were and are full of shit, whether you are right about this story or not.

And the signs are not very good that you are right about this one!

1. "Families of kids receiving medical care in the U.S. got letters saying they have to leave within 33 days or face deportation and a temporary ban on returning."

Do you deny this part of the story?

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ICE will now be able to decide whether undocumented immigrants getting treatment for serious medical conditions can stay in the country, WBUR and the Associated Press reported Monday.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the federal agency that handles matters like naturalization and adjustment of status, had previously handled cases through the "medical deferred action" program. But these requests — essentially a form of short-term deportation relief for people getting treated for conditions like cancer, cystic fibrosis, and muscular dystrophy — are now being referred to ICE for “consideration,” a USCIS spokesperson told VICE News.

Do you deny this part of the story?

“USCIS field offices will no longer consider non-military requests for deferred action, to instead focus agency resources on faithfully administering our nation’s lawful immigration system,” a spokesperson told VICE News.

I deny the latter half of that because it implies that the folks ICE will now be evaluating are all here illegally, which they have no way of knowing at this time (but the track record suggests it is not true).

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ICE took control over the program on August 7. And last week, immigrants who were in the program in the Boston area received letters notifying them they no longer qualified, according to both the AP and the WBUR reports. The immigrants who received these letters were largely parents of chronically ill children. Under the deferred action program, they were not only temporarily protected from deportation but also allowed to legally work in the country while their kids received medical treatment.

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Anthony Marino, director of legal services for the Irish International Immigrant Center, told WBUR that at least five families who receive legal services from the center are affected by the change. Those families received letters from the government saying they have to leave within 33 days of the issue date or else face deportation and a temporary ban on returning to the U.S.

Massachusetts politicians slammed the recent change. “By no longer considering medical deferred action requests for immigrants, the Trump administration is now literally deporting kids with cancer,” Massachusetts Sen. Ed Markey said on Facebook.

Do you deny this part of the story? Do you dispute Senator Markey's claim?! [/b]

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Cuccinelli also regularly makes the rounds on cable news, where he has defended the Trump administration’s attempts to limit asylum-seekers and other immigrants from coming to the U.S. He recently admitted that the Department of Homeland Security’s changes to the Flores Settlement agreement, a 1997 court settlement defining the rights migrant children have in the U.S., are intended as a “deterrent.”

Nothing to deny here.




So, Kid, I say that it sounds like you have been horn-swoggled again and that Ms. Maddow did not overreact in the slightest.

ICE's "review" process is meaningless until and unless one has cause to believe a fair hearing will be given. In a country that is now routinely having children under 10 represent themselves in a court of law, there is no basis for believing that a fair hearing is being given to any of these people.

Find me somebody who got one of those letters with the "33 days or else" and was allowed to stay after the ICE review and we can discuss it again. I might even apologize for my categorization of you on this occasion!

Not that I expect the same courtesy from you.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19642 on: August 28, 2019, 09:20:29 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/us-military-employee-citizenship-rule/index.html

Unclear that Trump can unilaterally declare these (future) offspring will no longer be citizens, but it sure is a dick move on his part to try!

This is the "policy guidance" that he had issued:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/policy-guidelines-on-us-citizenship/index.html
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« Reply #19643 on: August 28, 2019, 10:01:21 PM »

And another one gone, and another one gone. Another one bites the dust!

Johnny Isakson's leaving at the end of 2019.
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« Reply #19644 on: August 28, 2019, 10:06:50 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/27/americas/brazil-rejects-g7-aid-amazon-intl/index.html

Brazil walks back their rejection of the $22 million in fire aid.
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« Reply #19645 on: August 28, 2019, 10:16:31 PM »

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/volcano-erupts-today-stromboli-eruption-italy-today-2019-08-28/

A "high intensity" eruption on Strombol.

Arne Saknussemm escaped the eruption, however.
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« Reply #19646 on: August 28, 2019, 10:22:11 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/monmouth-poll-outlier/index.html

That Monmouth poll that had Biden, Sanders, and Warren in a near tie was an outlier according to the fellow in charge of Monmouth's polling.
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« Reply #19648 on: August 28, 2019, 11:14:05 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/monmouth-poll-outlier/index.html

That Monmouth poll that had Biden, Sanders, and Warren in a near tie was an outlier according to the fellow in charge of Monmouth's polling.

Pollsters really should not speak
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« Reply #19649 on: August 28, 2019, 11:17:41 PM »

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/volcano-erupts-today-stromboli-eruption-italy-today-2019-08-28/

A "high intensity" eruption on Strombol.

Arne Saknussemm escaped the eruption, however.

Ha!

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