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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20505 on: September 19, 2019, 06:37:47 PM »

Some of the questions also get different responses when the context is changed.   A majority favors higher taxes....on the extremely wealthy.   Or higher taxes....if the increase is offset by eliminating high insurance premiums.   That's why  differently phrased questions on a subject yield different answers. 
You might want to take a refresher course in polling.

If you don't think a polling result can hinge on how the question is phrased then not only should you take a refresher course you should be banned from posting about polls.

Nah.

Complete and utter ignorance is not cause to be banned on a topic.

Stick to "jury will disregard" or something.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20506 on: September 19, 2019, 06:38:58 PM »

Some of the questions also get different responses when the context is changed.   A majority favors higher taxes....on the extremely wealthy.   Or higher taxes....if the increase is offset by eliminating high insurance premiums.   That's why  differently phrased questions on a subject yield different answers. 
You might want to take a refresher course in polling.

If you don't think a polling result can hinge on how the question is phrased then not only should you take a refresher course you should be banned from posting about polls.
The whole poll results were linked 320 pages. How many did you read?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20507 on: September 19, 2019, 06:40:25 PM »

Some of the questions also get different responses when the context is changed.   A majority favors higher taxes....on the extremely wealthy.   Or higher taxes....if the increase is offset by eliminating high insurance premiums.   That's why  differently phrased questions on a subject yield different answers. 
You might want to take a refresher course in polling.

If you don't think a polling result can hinge on how the question is phrased then not only should you take a refresher course you should be banned from posting about polls.
The whole poll results were linked 320 pages. How many did you read?

Dude, I posted a link to the question as it was asked.  And I posted a response to the question.

Several, in fact.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2019, 06:41:56 PM by NeedsAdjustments »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20508 on: September 19, 2019, 06:41:20 PM »

Some of the questions also get different responses when the context is changed.   A majority favors higher taxes....on the extremely wealthy.   Or higher taxes....if the increase is offset by eliminating high insurance premiums.   That's why  differently phrased questions on a subject yield different answers. 
You might want to take a refresher course in polling.

If you don't think a polling result can hinge on how the question is phrased then not only should you take a refresher course you should be banned from posting about polls.

Nah.

Complete and utter ignorance is not cause to be banned on a topic.

Stick to "jury will disregard" or something.

I think we need a better way of keeping false and deceptive information from the ignorant and easily led. 

Think about poor kiidcarter8.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20509 on: September 19, 2019, 06:48:03 PM »

A team at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) has developed a way to make cement without heating, potentially eliminating the carbon produced in the process.
Think about it. The manufacture of cement amounts to about 8 per cent of our total contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere.( without carbon to burn the needed furnaces don’t get to the required 1500 degrees Fahrenheit )

MIT research demonstrates how  best to fight Climate Change. Adaptation.
Of course this story has yet to attract any media attention.

http://www.globalconstructionreview.com/innovation/mit-scientists-demonstrate-carbon-free-method-maki/


They have also developed concrete that actually eats pollution.  Science is astounding, isn't it?  Next thing they will come up with is electric cars!....wait...

But who is going to get the concrete manufacturers to adopt a system they aren't used to and makes the concrete more expensive to produce, particularly when you consider the huge cost of fitting out the plants with entirely new equipment?

How is that any easier than, say, getting a coal plant to use scrubbers?
LOL
I manufacture cement.
The choice is
The elimination of the industry as proposed by the left.
Or.
A new technology?
Guess.
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REDSTATEWARD

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20510 on: September 19, 2019, 06:49:14 PM »

Some of the questions also get different responses when the context is changed.   A majority favors higher taxes....on the extremely wealthy.   Or higher taxes....if the increase is offset by eliminating high insurance premiums.   That's why  differently phrased questions on a subject yield different answers. 
You might want to take a refresher course in polling.

If you don't think a polling result can hinge on how the question is phrased then not only should you take a refresher course you should be banned from posting about polls.
The whole poll results were linked 320 pages. How many did you read?

Dude, I posted a link to the question as it was asked.  And I posted a response to the question.

Several, in fact.
No you didn’t.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20511 on: September 19, 2019, 06:52:18 PM »

A team at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) has developed a way to make cement without heating, potentially eliminating the carbon produced in the process.
Think about it. The manufacture of cement amounts to about 8 per cent of our total contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere.( without carbon to burn the needed furnaces don’t get to the required 1500 degrees Fahrenheit )

MIT research demonstrates how  best to fight Climate Change. Adaptation.
Of course this story has yet to attract any media attention.

http://www.globalconstructionreview.com/innovation/mit-scientists-demonstrate-carbon-free-method-maki/


They have also developed concrete that actually eats pollution.  Science is astounding, isn't it?  Next thing they will come up with is electric cars!....wait...

But who is going to get the concrete manufacturers to adopt a system they aren't used to and makes the concrete more expensive to produce, particularly when you consider the huge cost of fitting out the plants with entirely new equipment?

How is that any easier than, say, getting a coal plant to use scrubbers?
LOL
I manufacture cement.
The choice is
The elimination of the industry as proposed by the left.
Or.
A new technology?
Guess.

LOL.  Yes, "the left" is proposing eliminating the industry.

On any of these issues, energy production, transportation, oil extraction etc, there are cleaner and CO2 reduced options.  When "the Left" proposes those methods be mandated Conservatives block them.  See my example re: scrubbers, regulations which the Trump Administration has gutted.

So the question of "how best to fight Climate Change" is not a question of innovation.  Its a question of how you get those innovations to be adopted when "the Right" can't even compromise on their washing machines.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20512 on: September 19, 2019, 06:54:01 PM »

Some of the questions also get different responses when the context is changed.   A majority favors higher taxes....on the extremely wealthy.   Or higher taxes....if the increase is offset by eliminating high insurance premiums.   That's why  differently phrased questions on a subject yield different answers. 
You might want to take a refresher course in polling.

If you don't think a polling result can hinge on how the question is phrased then not only should you take a refresher course you should be banned from posting about polls.
The whole poll results were linked 320 pages. How many did you read?

Dude, I posted a link to the question as it was asked.  And I posted a response to the question.

Several, in fact.
No you didn’t.

Did you read all the pages?

Page 171.  Very/Somewhat likely to support:

Green New Deal:  65%
Medicare for all: 61%
Free College Tuition: 56%

Huh.  Not the impression the results to the aggregate question gives, is it, Sealion?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20513 on: September 19, 2019, 06:58:54 PM »

A team at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) has developed a way to make cement without heating, potentially eliminating the carbon produced in the process.
Think about it. The manufacture of cement amounts to about 8 per cent of our total contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere.( without carbon to burn the needed furnaces don’t get to the required 1500 degrees Fahrenheit )

MIT research demonstrates how  best to fight Climate Change. Adaptation.
Of course this story has yet to attract any media attention.

http://www.globalconstructionreview.com/innovation/mit-scientists-demonstrate-carbon-free-method-maki/


They have also developed concrete that actually eats pollution.  Science is astounding, isn't it?  Next thing they will come up with is electric cars!....wait...

But who is going to get the concrete manufacturers to adopt a system they aren't used to and makes the concrete more expensive to produce, particularly when you consider the huge cost of fitting out the plants with entirely new equipment?

How is that any easier than, say, getting a coal plant to use scrubbers?
LOL
I manufacture cement.

You manufacture bullshit.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20514 on: September 19, 2019, 07:02:08 PM »

A team at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) has developed a way to make cement without heating, potentially eliminating the carbon produced in the process.
Think about it. The manufacture of cement amounts to about 8 per cent of our total contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere.( without carbon to burn the needed furnaces don’t get to the required 1500 degrees Fahrenheit )

MIT research demonstrates how  best to fight Climate Change. Adaptation.
Of course this story has yet to attract any media attention.

http://www.globalconstructionreview.com/innovation/mit-scientists-demonstrate-carbon-free-method-maki/


They have also developed concrete that actually eats pollution.  Science is astounding, isn't it?  Next thing they will come up with is electric cars!....wait...

But who is going to get the concrete manufacturers to adopt a system they aren't used to and makes the concrete more expensive to produce, particularly when you consider the huge cost of fitting out the plants with entirely new equipment?

How is that any easier than, say, getting a coal plant to use scrubbers?
LOL
I manufacture cement.
The choice is
The elimination of the industry as proposed by the left.
Or.
A new technology?
Guess.

LOL.  Yes, "the left" is proposing eliminating the industry.
Nice admission of utter stupidity.
Stopping the burning of fossil fuels to run this country only happens if innovation and alternatives take their place. When you and the clown car full of democrat presidential idiots understand that the country will find  solutions. If not you are left at the empty nuclear power plant you won’t fund.


So the questi
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« Reply #20515 on: September 19, 2019, 07:05:58 PM »

LOL.  Yes, "the left" is proposing eliminating the industry.
Nice admission of utter stupidity.

Please point to any serious proposal from "the Left" that we eliminate the use of concrete.  Thanks in advance.

Stopping the burning of fossil fuels to run this country only happens if innovation and alternatives take their place.

No shit.  And as I said, in many areas those innovations and alternatives exist.  It is Conservatives that are pushing back against the implementation of those innovations and alternatives.
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« Reply #20516 on: September 19, 2019, 07:12:13 PM »

Some of the questions also get different responses when the context is changed.   A majority favors higher taxes....on the extremely wealthy.   Or higher taxes....if the increase is offset by eliminating high insurance premiums.   That's why  differently phrased questions on a subject yield different answers. 
You might want to take a refresher course in polling.

If you don't think a polling result can hinge on how the question is phrased then not only should you take a refresher course you should be banned from posting about polls.
The whole poll results were linked 320 pages. How many did you read?

Dude, I posted a link to the question as it was asked.  And I posted a response to the question.

Several, in fact.
No you didn’t.

Did you read all the pages?

Page 171.  Very/Somewhat likely to support:

Green New Deal:  65%
Medicare for all: 61%
Free College Tuition: 56%

Huh.  Not the impression the results to the aggregate question gives, is it, Sealion?
May want to read all the pages. Now that you have found a way to actually read the answers.
They reflect what I posted.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20517 on: September 19, 2019, 07:17:55 PM »

LOL.  Yes, "the left" is proposing eliminating the industry.
Nice admission of utter stupidity.

Please point to any serious proposal from "the Left" that we eliminate the use of concrete.  Thanks in advance.
You already did.

Stopping the burning of fossil fuels to run this country only happens if innovation and alternatives take their place.


No shit.  And as I said, in many areas those innovations and alternatives exist.  It is Conservatives that are pushing back against the implementation of those innovations and alternatives.
Conservatives reject Nuclear Power?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20518 on: September 19, 2019, 07:21:15 PM »

Conservatives reject natural gas. ?
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« Reply #20519 on: September 19, 2019, 07:39:43 PM »

No one on the Left has proposed eliminating concrete as a building material.   Or sheetrock (also a high-carbon production at the moment).   They will always have some carbon footprint, as does almost anything....concrete involves dredging and transport of huge amounts of sand, with large diesel engines.  Sheetrock involves gypsum mining.   It's not necessarily a Left/Right issue.  Everyone can see the merit in (1) alternative low-carbon production methods, especially in the "bake," and (2) exploring alternative materials that offer comparable structural quality (a state I used to live in reduced its highway concrete by using a composite made partly from recycled rubber tires, and found those roads actually last longer).    Further down the road (ha!), a society that nurtures innovation will have the diesel machines that harvest sand and gypsum replaced with machines run on fuel cells or algae-generated biofuel or something we haven't thought of.*  Without the government offering incentives to Redward's factory, making these changes will be a lot harder.   


* and won't think of, if we don't hone our young minds with excellent and affordable public education.   

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