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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bankshot1]

Interesting to learn from Dr. Ford:
Diane Feinstein violated Dr. Ford’s requested secrecy by leaking her letter.
Dr. Ford’s Lawyers came on recommendations of Feinstein.
Those lawyers never told her the Senate wanted to talk to her or
Fly to California to interview her.
And the Lawyer’s excuse that Dr. Ford was afraid to fly was belied by Dr. Ford who says she regurly flies for work, family, and foreign vacations.
If those Lawyers bill her I hope she sends it on Feinstein.

The only thing of interest in the above post is Red's need to distort the truth. In particular Sen Feinstein nor her staff leaked the Ford letter.  She denied it yesterday and that was confirmed yesterday by The Intercept, which originally broke the Ford story.

Truth matters, except to Red.

What matters to Red is the further perversion of our democracy and the waekening of our shared core beliefs by warped partisan idealogues and big monied interests who want to steal America from Americans.

Red is truly a partisan cock sucking asshole. 

Red you ever play Devil's Triangle with some of your other partisan cocksuckers?

[NeedsAdjustments]

GOP gives week for additional background check on Kavanaugh!

But... But... Red.assures us the FBI does not do that sort of thing!

Hardly. I posted Joe Biden’s defining explanation of the FBI’s role in SCOTUS nominations.

I recall your saying that any investigation was a threat to separation of powers.

Who cares what Biden said (or more accurately, what he is said to have said.)  The fact is the FBI is tasked with doing these background checks.  And previously, with no reason to interview people outside of Kavanaugh’s listed references, their background checks would not have turned up material related to these allegations.  So with those allegations, it always made sense to investigate them.  Whatever Biden said 27 years ago.

And now it makes sense for the FBI to look into whether or not Kavanaugh lied under oath.

[LarryBnDC]

There is only one reason they’re allowing a FBI investigation...

They don’t have the votes. Get ready for a woman nominee?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6F6kIqlxw

[kiidcarter8]

So who is going to break it to Ms Ford that she has to fly in and testify again?

[kiidcarter8]

Interesting to learn from Dr. Ford:
Diane Feinstein violated Dr. Ford’s requested secrecy by leaking her letter.
Dr. Ford’s Lawyers came on recommendations of Feinstein.
Those lawyers never told her the Senate wanted to talk to her or
Fly to California to interview her.
And the Lawyer’s excuse that Dr. Ford was afraid to fly was belied by Dr. Ford who says she regurly flies for work, family, and foreign vacations.
If those Lawyers bill her I hope she sends it on Feinstein.

The only thing of interest in the above post is Red's need to distort the truth. In particular Sen Feinstein nor her staff leaked the Ford letter.  She denied it yesterday and that was confirmed yesterday by The Intercept, which originally broke the Ford story.

Truth matters, except to Red.

What matters to Red is the further perversion of our democracy and the waekening of our shared core beliefs by warped partisan idealogues and big monied interests who want to steal America from Americans.

Red is truly a partisan cock sucking asshole. 

Red you ever play Devil's Triangle with some of your other partisan cocksuckers?

Once again you take your shot at turning a forum into a sewer.

Things have been pretty civil in here.  Get your horses in order.

[REDSTATEWARD]

GOP gives week for additional background check on Kavanaugh!

But... But... Red.assures us the FBI does not do that sort of thing!

Hardly. I posted Joe Biden’s defining explanation of the FBI’s role in SCOTUS nominations.

I recall your saying that any investigation was a threat to separation of powers.

Why don’t you post my words?

Who cares what Biden said (or more accurately, what he is said to have said.)  The fact is the FBI is tasked with doing these background checks.  And previously, with no reason to interview people outside of Kavanaugh’s listed references, their background checks would not have turned up material related to these allegations. 

You are delusional. The FBI background checks are never limited to the nominee’s references. And Ford’s allegations would have been investigated if Feinstein was honest in her duties as a member of the Senate.

[josh]

Interesting to learn from Dr. Ford:
Diane Feinstein violated Dr. Ford’s requested secrecy by leaking her letter.
Dr. Ford’s Lawyers came on recommendations of Feinstein.
Those lawyers never told her the Senate wanted to talk to her or
Fly to California to interview her.
And the Lawyer’s excuse that Dr. Ford was afraid to fly was belied by Dr. Ford who says she regurly flies for work, family, and foreign vacations.
If those Lawyers bill her I hope she sends it on Feinstein.

We knew the first one long ago.

Pay attention.

And yes, to the last! I think Feinstein has a ton to answer for. (Mark the day - Redd and I agree on something.)

So does Grassley.

The both of them ignored a ton of stuff. Grassley is more culpable than she is, but it's close.

And the GOP staff deliberately worked to prevent testimony from Ramirez - the email exchange that the GOP staff released shows only half the exchange. Upon release of the rest of it, one sees the pattern of refusal.

[josh]

GOP gives week for additional background check on Kavanaugh!

But... But... Red.assures us the FBI does not do that sort of thing!

Hardly. I posted Joe Biden’s defining explanation of the FBI’s role in SCOTUS nominations.

I recall your saying that any investigation was a threat to separation of powers.

Why don’t you post my words?

Who cares what Biden said (or more accurately, what he is said to have said.)  The fact is the FBI is tasked with doing these background checks.  And previously, with no reason to interview people outside of Kavanaugh’s listed references, their background checks would not have turned up material related to these allegations. 

You are delusional. The FBI background checks are never limited to the nominee’s references. And Ford’s allegations would have been investigated if Feinstein was honest in her duties as a member of the Senate.

No, that's pretty clearly not so.

[bankshot1]

Interesting to learn from Dr. Ford:
Diane Feinstein violated Dr. Ford’s requested secrecy by leaking her letter.
Dr. Ford’s Lawyers came on recommendations of Feinstein.
Those lawyers never told her the Senate wanted to talk to her or
Fly to California to interview her.
And the Lawyer’s excuse that Dr. Ford was afraid to fly was belied by Dr. Ford who says she regurly flies for work, family, and foreign vacations.
If those Lawyers bill her I hope she sends it on Feinstein.

The only thing of interest in the above post is Red's need to distort the truth. In particular Sen Feinstein nor her staff leaked the Ford letter.  She denied it yesterday and that was confirmed yesterday by The Intercept, which originally broke the Ford story.

Truth matters, except to Red.

What matters to Red is the further perversion of our democracy and the waekening of our shared core beliefs by warped partisan idealogues and big monied interests who want to steal America from Americans.

Red is truly a partisan cock sucking asshole. 

Red you ever play Devil's Triangle with some of your other partisan cocksuckers?

Once again you take your shot at turning a forum into a sewer.

Things have been pretty civil in here.  Get your horses in order.

Red is a partisan cocksucker who also is in the habit of serially misrepresenting the truth.

And I called him out for his lies.

If you have a problem with my language, tough shit, but the precedent of calling out partisan prevaricating cocsuckers was established a long time ago in this forum, and not by me. So I'm following well established precedent.

Hope that clears that up for you.

[barton]

Once again you [ Bankshot  ] take your shot at turning a forum into a sewer.

Things have been pretty civil in here...

Only in comparison to the United States Senate.   

BTW,  and this does not relate to the topic,  where is Facilitator lately? 

[bankshot1]

So who is going to break it to Ms Ford that she has to fly in and testify again?

This above post, where you seem to take pleasure in taunting the victim of sexual abuse, is far more offensive than anything I've ever posted in Elba.

You're a sick piece of shit.

But to answer your question, Dr. Ford welcomed the opportunity to due her civic duty, tel the truth, and expose herself and family to threats of all sorts, and conquered a fear and flew to Washington, in doing so. Fortunately theres an FBI office in San Francisco so any follow ups to her testimony will likely entiail far less travel hardships for her.

The far more interesting question, is who told Judge Kavanaugh's drinking buddies from Prep, they now have to testify to the FBI under oath.

 

[REDSTATEWARD]

GOP gives week for additional background check on Kavanaugh!

But... But... Red.assures us the FBI does not do that sort of thing!

Hardly. I posted Joe Biden’s defining explanation of the FBI’s role in SCOTUS nominations.

I recall your saying that any investigation was a threat to separation of powers.

Why don’t you post my words?

Who cares what Biden said (or more accurately, what he is said to have said.)  The fact is the FBI is tasked with doing these background checks.  And previously, with no reason to interview people outside of Kavanaugh’s listed references, their background checks would not have turned up material related to these allegations. 

You are delusional. The FBI background checks are never limited to the nominee’s references. And Ford’s allegations would have been investigated if Feinstein was honest in her duties as a member of the Senate.

No, that's pretty clearly not so.

It clearly IS so.

[bambu-wisdom]

---On Saturday September 22, 2018 at the ValleyFair amusement park in Shakopee, Minnesota, police and emergency responders had to evacuate all guests after a mob of Somali teenagers and men rushed through security and caused several violent fights to break out inside the park.---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bRW9LrKF0A


The BHO gift that keeps giving.

Sounds like Melbourne.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pReWBhQ3dJQ
Two hundred violent Africans rampage on St Kilda beach in Melbourne, Australia

[josh]

GOP gives week for additional background check on Kavanaugh!

But... But... Red.assures us the FBI does not do that sort of thing!

Hardly. I posted Joe Biden’s defining explanation of the FBI’s role in SCOTUS nominations.

I recall your saying that any investigation was a threat to separation of powers.

Why don’t you post my words?

Who cares what Biden said (or more accurately, what he is said to have said.)  The fact is the FBI is tasked with doing these background checks.  And previously, with no reason to interview people outside of Kavanaugh’s listed references, their background checks would not have turned up material related to these allegations. 

You are delusional. The FBI background checks are never limited to the nominee’s references. And Ford’s allegations would have been investigated if Feinstein was honest in her duties as a member of the Senate.

No, that's pretty clearly not so.

It clearly IS so.

The facts disagree with you, Redd.

The GOP "leadership" and staff have worked to block their testimony or to assign research all the way along.

They got a different letter and they sat on it and fought to keep the letter writer away from testifying. They got another letter and they sat on it and did not even inquire.

Feinstein deserves a ton of mud tossed at her, but Grassley is more culpable than she.

[josh]

GOP gives week for additional background check on Kavanaugh!

But... But... Red.assures us the FBI does not do that sort of thing!

Hardly. I posted Joe Biden’s defining explanation of the FBI’s role in SCOTUS nominations.

Above is Redd telling us he never suggested that the FBI doesn't do that sort of thing.

Below is Redd telling us that the FBI would not investigate because there is no crime to investigate.

What is the FBI supposed to investigate?

An alleged sexual assault.

Have you not heard?  It’s been kind of in the news a lot lately.

I take his point,  though.   If Red means,  how can one find evidence of an encounter that happened 36  years ago and where no one sought medical treatment or otherwise made any report?   Especially when details seem conflicting.  TbH,  that's why I find the Renate thing more telling, it's on paper and we know the exact source.   Not that Ms Ford should not seek justice,  but it's hard for me to see how it gets beyond the word of a possible drunk and the word of someone who claimed to have one beer.   Truth finding requires more than people just asserting their alcohol levels 36.years ago and not able to remember key details like location.

The larger point though is the FBI is not charged with investigating alleged crimes that do not involve federal laws.  The “ Renate Thing” has been public knowledge for the same period of time and yet never showed up in any of the previous 6 FBI background checks done for Kavanaugh.

They would not be investigating a crime, they would be conducting a back ground check on a SCOTUS nominee, which the FBI does routinely. I realize you are being purposefully obtuse.

There is no crime to investigate.

And, again, trying to convince us that there can be no FBI investigation.

He will, of course, insist that this is "proof" that he never said they don't or wouldn't, merely asked questions.

That is because he is just as disingeous as Judge Kavanaugh.

Her lawyer is calling it attempted rape.
Saying that he was too inebriated to be successful.

Things are so charged with partisan strife right now that I truly don't know what to think, but I do know there's something really wrong when the admin doesn't have the FBI look into this.     

The FBI is not an investigative body into alleged state crimes that were never reported.
What is the FBI supposed to “ investigate” 36 years after a “ event” that has only one complainant?
We have an account from one person with scant details strongly denied by her alleged “ attacker” and a third party who says there was no such “ event”.  The only “ corroborating “ evidence comes from the alleged “ victim” contained in notes by a marriage counselor dictated by the “ victim”.

Oh, please. Have you ever been the subject or an interviewee of an FBI background check?

The FBI is not an investigative body into alleged state crimes that were never reported.
What is the FBI supposed to “ investigate” 36 years after a “ event” that has only one complainant?
We have an account from one person with scant details strongly denied by her alleged “ attacker” and a third party who says there was no such “ event”.  The only “ corroborating “ evidence comes from the alleged “ victim” contained in notes by a marriage counselor dictated by the “ victim”.