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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

http://slate.com/business/2020/06/unemployment-report-claims-coronavirus.html

Trump running ruining the economy just like it was one of his “businesses”.

[bambu.]

Woman calls 911:
"A man is trying to break into my house,  he's big and is crazy,  I fear I'm going to be raped, murdered, or kidnapped, send the police, hurry."

911:
"Sorry,  there are no more police...I'll send over a social worker".

[barton]

As for Aunt Jemima et al.
In China there's a brand of toothpaste I was fond of called Darlie....

I can remember being a child in Wichita and hearing an adult saying "America is like a piano:  it has room for both white keys and dark keys [pron.  like "darkies"]"   When I was older,  it sank in how many people who viewed themselves as not racist were okay with bad puns or wordplay using racist language.   

[LarryBnDC]

Woman calls 911:
"A man is trying to break into my house,  he's big and is crazy,  I fear I'm going to be raped, murdered, or kidnapped, send the police, hurry."

911:
"Sorry,  there are no more police...I'll send over a social worker".

Don’t bother with the social worker. He broke in... send the ME.

[LarryBnDC]

I used to think Louie Gohmert was the biggest asshole in the House... after Steve King of course, but now there is a new contender for the title...
Matt Gaetz of Floriduh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXECwX1vK-g

[barton]

Woman calls 911:
"A man is trying to break into my house,  he's big and is crazy,  I fear I'm going to be raped, murdered, or kidnapped, send the police, hurry."

911:
"Sorry,  there are no more police...I'll send over a social worker".

Defunding doesn't mean elimination of armed response police.   You argue in bad faith:  you pretend you didn't understand key points so you can caricature the other side's position.  It's why some of us don't directly reply to your rhetorical points anymore.   

[kidcarter8]

Unless, like some, you have decided that you will live your life - risk and worry be damned.

Your arguments make a lot of sense ...  if you were talking about the War on Drugs.

Lots of folks are willing to assume the personal risk of drug usage.  For many, drugs aren't a problem and they can work and raise a family and be useful members of society.  While some will die from them or ruin their lives.    Why not let them have freedom and decide what to do with their lives and bodies?

The difference is those who  assert their individual rights during an epidemic, act careless and get infected can easily spread it to others who can also pass it on, until we have a genuine health emergency and people dying.  The potential harm isn't limited to the individual.   For drug use it mostly is.

Heh

Not close.

[kidcarter8]

Woman calls 911:
"A man is trying to break into my house,  he's big and is crazy,  I fear I'm going to be raped, murdered, or kidnapped, send the police, hurry."

911:
"Sorry,  there are no more police...I'll send over a social worker".

Defunding doesn't mean elimination of armed response police.   You argue in bad faith:  you pretend you didn't understand key points so you can caricature the other side's position.  It's why some of us don't directly reply to your rhetorical points anymore.

Defunding doesn't mean anything.  It"s a total non starter.  Whoever started to use the term first should be ashamed.

[bambu.]

The virus tends to mostly kill the weakest and most vulnerable.
So when viral transmission isn't mitigated properly it spreads throughout a society and finds its way to the old and sick.  Basically an inevitable result of not taking the virus seriously and not taking full precautions to stop the virus.

Amen.

[barton]

Woman calls 911:
"A man is trying to break into my house,  he's big and is crazy,  I fear I'm going to be raped, murdered, or kidnapped, send the police, hurry."

911:
"Sorry,  there are no more police...I'll send over a social worker".

Defunding doesn't mean elimination of armed response police.   You argue in bad faith:  you pretend you didn't understand key points so you can caricature the other side's position.  It's why some of us don't directly reply to your rhetorical points anymore.

Defunding doesn't mean anything.  It"s a total non starter.  Whoever started to use the term first should be ashamed.

Why?   It's clearly defined.   Camden NJ did it,  and reorganized quite effectively.   You need to read and learn more and jabber less.   

[Hamilton Samuels]

Camden NJ did it,  and reorganized quite effectively.

Not necessarily to everyone in the Walt Whitman's town's satisfaction, however.

In fact, it the reformation was more of an imposition than a reorganization with community input.

https://whyy.org/articles/camden-residents-city-not-a-model-for-defunding-police/

https://www.nj.com/news/2020/06/minneapolis-wants-to-disband-its-police-force-after-george-floyds-death-here-is-how-it-worked-in-one-nj-city.html


So, let's pump the brakes on declaring Camden the model for police reform. Is the town better off? Short-answer: Yes. Long answer: Jury is still out on this one.


All that said, there is certainly a lot of room for reforming policing across the nation, and not just in communities of color. I can think of quite a few places right here in New Jersey where the police are used as a means to keep people of color from even passing through town---places that pride themselves on being "Mayberry-like".

Opie would likely have grown up to share in the kind of bigotry that is exchanged in towns like Chatham, and Mendham (where Christie lives), and Harding, and Haddonfield, and Saddle River, and down in many of the Shore towns, certainly.

[bodiddley]

Why shouldn't people have the freedom to smoke marijuana or use cocaine or heroin or amphetamines if that's their choice and they are willing to take the risk?

If they are only harming/affecting themselves, why should the gov't step in and stop them and worse arrest/imprison them?  Why not rely on individual freedom and choice? 

[bambu.]

Woman calls 911:
"A man is trying to break into my house,  he's big and is crazy,  I fear I'm going to be raped, murdered, or kidnapped, send the police, hurry."

911:
"Sorry,  there are no more police...I'll send over a social worker".

Defunding doesn't mean elimination of armed response police.   You argue in bad faith:  you pretend you didn't understand key points so you can caricature the other side's position.  It's why some of us don't directly reply to your rhetorical points anymore.

No.
In good faith.
They...want no police...all police gone...abolished.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/tim-blair-lefts-uutopian-copless-vision-has-become-a-reality/news-story/9c780eb15ec332a3e6c1679b8dfcff02

Tim Blair: Left’s utopian copless vision has become a reality

For decades, Marxists, socialists, hippies and other handbrakes have imagined a paradise free of police – and now their utopian copless vision has become a reality, writes Tim Blair.

“Activists calling for defunding the police are not always calling for dismantling departments,” wrote journalist Yamiche Alcindor.
“In many cases, it means redirecting funds from police departments to other parts of society that help people like housing, education, and communities.”

Nice try.

That particular misdirection was quickly ended when the New York Times last week ran an opinion piece by Mariame Kaba, an “organiser against criminalisation”, below the headline:

“Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police”.

(The Times previously forced an opinion editor to resign after he published a column by a US senator supporting the intervention of troops in urban riots. Nobody lost their jobs, however, over demands for police abolition.)

[FlyingVProd]

The answer is simple on the issue of CHAZ, the USA is a free nation, and the USA is already ours, and all men are created equal. We do not need to take over what is already ours. But, the USA belongs to all of us, and we all have rights, so we have to create rules for our society in order to protect all of our rights.

And right now we have the Corona Virus, and there obviously seems to be issues there on toilets, etc, and it looks like the area needs to be cleaned up for public health reasons. So, the people have to leave that area so that it can be cleaned up and sanitized.

I also know that you get more with candy than you do with vinegar, so you gotta reward them with something for going along with you.

Give them a YMCA camp, or something. Give them free motel rooms and free food somewhere, or something. They cannot continue to do what they are doing, so you trade that for something that they are allowed to do.

In America we all have rights, and we have rules to protect our rights. And right now we have a public health crisis, the whole area needs to be cleaned up, and they need to cooperate because of the Corona Virus. And we can reward them with food and shelter and showers, etc.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bambu.]

Why shouldn't people have the freedom to smoke marijuana or use cocaine or heroin or amphetamines if that's their choice and they are willing to take the risk?

If they are only harming/affecting themselves, why should the gov't step in and stop them and worse arrest/imprison them?  Why not rely on individual freedom and choice?

Marijuana alters personalities etc and ruins lives.
Cocaine:
People who use cocaine often may also have more serious side effects and health problems, like:
• Headaches
• Convulsions and seizures
• Heart disease, heart attack, and stroke
• Mood problems
• Sexual trouble
• Lung damage
• HIV or hepatitis if you inject it
• Bowel decay if you swallow it
• Loss of smell, nosebleeds, runny nose, and trouble swallowing, if you snort it.

Heroin; ruins lives, kills easily.

Methamphetamine...turns beautiful people ugly, distorts faces, blocks saliva, mouths and teeth go black, teeth fall out.

All at great expense to the community

Should users be in prison?
No. Should be put in rehab first. A no-escape facility, rolling hills, green grass, places to sit in the sun.

Should dealers be in prison?
Yes...'dealing in misery and death'.
China has just sentenced an Aussie man to death, kgs of meth found in his luggage. China should be abolished.