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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42885 on: July 15, 2020, 10:03:43 AM »

It's not either/or.  Do both.  The more precautions the better.  (and she was right to list masks first).  Then again she's a Euro, and probably is wondering what the hell is wrong with stupid Americans that they can't just simply wear masks.


Yes.  Have mask in pocket or around neck and socially distance.  Put mask on when situation dictates

If positive there will be no such situation - no need for such face covering..
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42886 on: July 15, 2020, 10:21:13 AM »

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« Reply #42887 on: July 15, 2020, 10:21:56 AM »

Pretty funny that REDSTATEWARD reads an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal then thinking he is now an expert on the issue of kids going back to school spends a day attempting to "debate" the forum, never once pointing to the op-ed that informed his side of the "debate."
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« Reply #42888 on: July 15, 2020, 10:22:53 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/trump-administration-coronavirus-hospital-data-cdc/index.html

As I am sure you have by now heard...

Than the Trump Administration is now going to cook the COVID death data to make their response look less inept? 

Yeah.  That was covered here.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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« Reply #42889 on: July 15, 2020, 10:26:10 AM »

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"We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from Covid," he said. "We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose, that are above excess, than we had as background, than we are seeing deaths from Covid."


-  CDC Director Redfield



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« Reply #42890 on: July 15, 2020, 10:27:21 AM »

Yes, even in small, single-stoplight towns they’re saying his name
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Vandessa Johnson, 48, shares a cheers with passersby during a Black Lives Matter protest in Taneytown, Md., on July 11.
Vandessa Johnson, 48, shares a cheers with passersby during a Black Lives Matter protest in Taneytown, Md., on July 11. (Petula Dvorak/The Washington Post)
“Honk! Honk! Hoooonk!” went the truck, and the driver’s white fist emerged from his window, punching the air in support.

“Woo hoo! He’s with us!” the woman yelled, and the other demonstrators cheered Saturday evening outside the Taneytown police station, still decorated for the Fourth of July in red, white and blue bunting.

Last year, Taneytown — population about 6,800, just 15 miles from where the Battle of Gettysburg was fought — was probably the only town in America considering a new Civil War memorial, complete with a portrait of President Abraham Lincoln’s assassin, John Wilkes Booth.

Jacob Jorge, 24, who is black, grew up in Taneytown hearing his public school teachers use the n-word. He saw Ku Klux Klan fliers circulated in the Carroll County town just a couple of years ago. He’s been stopped by police dozens of times in his life, from childhood on, because “I always looked like someone they were looking for.”

Welcome to (possibly) the only town in America that wants a new Civil War monument

So these things — the white fists in the air and the Black Lives Matter T-shirts and “I Can’t Breathe” signs — were a shock to him.

“This is the most welcoming feeling I’ve ever had in my hometown,” Jorge said, scanning the line of about 50 demonstrators, almost all of them white. “The town is only, what, like, 4 percent black? Seeing this out here is something else.”

This isn’t unique to Taneytown.

It’s happening about 140 times a day across America. Every. Single. Day.

After the video of the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis on Memorial Day shocked America, the demonstrations across the nation and even the world showed thousands of people taking to the streets in big cities. There were standoffs and tear gas, rubber bullets, arrests, even some looting and fires.

But that’s a small part of this story.

Because across America, in places like Taneytown, citizens continue going out into their streets — sometimes in small groups standing in their single-stoplight downtowns or in larger knots outside suburban strip malls. Their protests aren’t covered on the evening news and they don’t always make the local papers. Heck, most of these towns don’t even have local papers anymore.

But they are out there, swelling what may be the largest protest movement the United States has ever seen.

An estimated 13 million to 26 million people in the United States have taken part in a protest since Floyd was killed, demanding justice for black Americans, according to research by data scientists from the Pew Research Center and the Kaiser Family Foundation.

That’s a huge number for something like this — between 4 and 8 percent of the American population. Which is even more extraordinary given that we’re in the middle of a pandemic. A New York Times analysis of the protests estimated there have been at least 4,700 protests across America since May 26, an average of 140 a day.

D.C. protests have grown bigger and more diverse

The protests are sustained and they’re different.

“At this point, it’s clear that these protests are more racially and geographically diverse than we’ve seen perhaps ever,” said Dana Fisher, sociology professor at the University of Maryland who recently published a book on American protest in the age of President Trump.

And in many cases, like most of the people I talked to Saturday night in Taneytown, this is the first time these folks have taken part in a demonstration.

Holly Udy, 52, is one of them. She demonstrated with a group in Gettysburg, Pa., on Friday night, then stood with others on Taneytown’s main thoroughfare Saturday. She said her years as a substitute teacher in central Maryland’s bigger cities showed her the injustices that are part of daily life for black children.

“There were so many times I saw that,” she said. “And I knew it’s just time to wake up.”

Another car approached as we were talking, a white convertible. An older man who looked fresh off the golf course was at the wheel. “Honk! Honk!” and a wave. Then a thumbs-up.

“Awww,” Udy said. “It just warms my heart when I see older people support this. You know, these are people who grew up when Catholics and Protestants wouldn’t talk. And to see them supporting Black Lives Matter? They grew, you know?”

And then came an Americana parade of cars — a blue SUV, a Jeep, a beat-up greenish sedan. No honks — just a middle finger, middle finger, thumbs-down.

“We still love you!” one protester yelled.

This was more like it was when they protested for the first time last month.

Meghann Puckett winced as she remembered a neighbor hurling trash at the small protest of about a dozen, hearing someone yell “White power!” and seeing “more middle fingers than I’ve seen my whole life” that summer evening.

But she wanted to try again. She asked police for backup, and on Saturday they watched from inside the station, after telling Puckett it was okay to protest on the curb outside. After spreading the word on social media, the numbers were about five times as big.

“It’s so much better,” she said, about two hours into Saturday’s protest. “This group is bigger. And we’re stronger.”

A Prius rolled past them. Thumbs-up! (Of course.)

Another biker, with a long beard and a stars-and-stripes helmet. A wave and a hang-loose waggle.

Jason Officer, 35, spent three hours standing at the protest — to apologize.

“I have said the n-word in the past,” Officer said.

But when he heard about Floyd and then learned that Eric Garner said the same words — “I can’t breathe” — as Garner died in a police chokehold in New York in 2014, that convinced him there was something deeply wrong with the way police treat black Americans. And he finally decided to step up.

“That hit me,” he said. “It’s just not right.”

And a big truck rolled by and Officer held his breath.

It was a muscle truck, black and shiny. The driver had his elbow resting on the window, road-trip style. What would he do?

“Wow, the big tires and everything,” Officer said. “You never know about people.”
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If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

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« Reply #42891 on: July 15, 2020, 10:27:42 AM »

TUBBERVILLE!!!!!!

Trump wins.

Sessions was the first Senator to endorse Trump, willing to embrace Trumpism while most others in the party were not ready to embrace its toxicity to use it to their own ends.  He was also Trump's Attorney General, and was ready and willing to use that position to enact Trump's anti-immigrant agenda.

So why are we celebrating his loss?

Oh yeah, he did not see his job as Attorney General as serving as the Trump's personal lawyer and fixer, the way Barr does.  Ethics will not be tolerated in the Trump Administration, and any sort of morality will be shouted down to the point where Trump's loyal followers will celebrate his "wins" without knowing what it is they are actually celebrating.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42892 on: July 15, 2020, 10:34:12 AM »

Trump wants Tommy - or is it Tomy - in the Senate



Trump wins.
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« Reply #42893 on: July 15, 2020, 10:35:50 AM »

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"We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from Covid," he said. "We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose, that are above excess, than we had as background, than we are seeing deaths from Covid."


-  CDC Director Redfield



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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42894 on: July 15, 2020, 10:38:55 AM »

Re:  school age children

"We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from Covid," he said. "We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose, that are above excess, than we had as background, than we are seeing deaths from Covid."


-  CDC Director Redfield



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Last year the US saw about 185 drug overdose deaths per day.  Yesterday, according to the CDC, the US saw 351 new deaths due to COVID.  So for there to be "far greater" deaths that are above what would be expected otherwise, we would be looking at what, at least 550 drug overdose deaths per day, or a threefold increase in drug overdose deaths nationwide?

Annually, as in one year, the US had about 67,000 drug overdose deaths.  We are looking at 140,000 deaths from COVID in Four Months and it is far from being contained, and shows every sign of getting worse.  But Trump's CDC Director thinks we should all be more concerned by overdoses right now?

Redfield is a political hack.  If he is going to make that kind of claim, he needs to support it with the numbers.
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« Reply #42895 on: July 15, 2020, 10:39:35 AM »

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« Reply #42896 on: July 15, 2020, 10:40:29 AM »

Trump wants Tommy - or is it Tomy - in the Senate



Trump wins.

And the reason Trump turned on Sessions is because Trump is corrupt.

But you could care less about that.  All you care to do is yell "scoreboard."

Because you are an imbecile.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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« Reply #42897 on: July 15, 2020, 10:41:17 AM »

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"We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from Covid," he said. "We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose, that are above excess, than we had as background, than we are seeing deaths from Covid."


-  CDC Director Redfield



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CNN.com

Right there on the home page
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« Reply #42898 on: July 15, 2020, 10:41:34 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/trump-administration-coronavirus-hospital-data-cdc/index.html

As I am sure you have by now heard...


You wearing your mask over your eyes again?

Nose and mouth kid, cover your nose and mouth.

Jusr because Trump wants to keep you in the dark doesn't mean you have to blind yourself to the truth.

I posted about it yesterday, you must have missed it.


Speaking of running the #s

Sounds like someone wants to fix the #s

and keep the public in the dark

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/coronavirus-updates.html?action=click&module=Alert&pgtype=Homepage#link-47bd459f

The Trump administration has ordered hospitals to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and, beginning on Wednesday, send all coronavirus patient information to a central database in Washington — a move that has alarmed public health experts who fear the data will be distorted for political gain.

The new instructions are contained in a little-noticed document posted this week on the Department of Health and Human Services’ website, Sheryl Gay Stolberg reports. From now on, H.H.S., and not the C.D.C., will collect daily reports about the patients that each hospital is treating, how many beds and ventilators are available, and other information vital to tracking the pandemic.


Now I know you're new to mask etiquette, but don't hide your eyes, just cover your nose and mouth.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42899 on: July 15, 2020, 10:43:22 AM »

Trump wants Tommy - or is it Tomy - in the Senate



Trump wins.

And the reason Trump turned on Sessions is because Trump is corrupt.

But you could care less about that.  All you care to do is yell "scoreboard."

Because you are an imbecile.

Sessions currently suffering consequences of going against the leader of the free world.

Like Vindman and others.

Not sure where Jeff will land or if he is financially secure enough to just chill.
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