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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51180 on: September 24, 2020, 10:39:55 AM »

---Black attorney general chokes up during Taylor announcement---

Trying to feel the pain, but seriously to start shooting at cops?
The shooters should be charged with recklessly endangering the wall behind the officers.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51181 on: September 24, 2020, 11:05:03 AM »

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President Donald Trump again declined to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the Nov. 3 presidential election.

“We’re going to have to see what happens,” Trump said

“What country are we in?” Biden asked incredulously, adding: “I’m being facetious. Look, he says the most irrational things. I don’t know what to say about it. But it doesn’t surprise me.”

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The American Civil Liberties Union also protested Trump’s remarks. “The peaceful transfer of power is essential to a functioning democracy,” National Legal Director David Cole said. “This statement from the president of the United States should trouble every American.”
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51182 on: September 24, 2020, 11:28:00 AM »

Yep.  People of Praise does share similarities in its doctrines to the People of Hope, and both are Charismatics.   Either community excludes women from the highest leadership positions and teaches that men are the spiritual leaders of their families.  So... tomayto,  tomahto. 
That answer doesn’t even rise to a LOL! it is so juvenile.
But at least the dems got another chance to don the HandMaiden costumes they bought for the Kavanaugh Cavalcade of lies.

You're not following at all.   You post that Newsweek misreported that Atwood based her Gilead society on People of Praise,  when it was a newspaper clipping on a different group called People of Hope.   You implied that this somehow  meant that the cultish comparison between Coney Barret's group and Atwood's Gilead was therefore invalid.

I pointed out that People of Praise,  like People of Hope, also is a charismatic group which does not allow women in leadership positions and places the man as the spiritual leader of a family.   And P of P also used to call women members "handmaidens, " only changing the name when the book was published and widely read.   Therefore,  your distinction,  while it did show a magazine's error,  was a distinction without a difference.
 The two groups indeed share cultish sexist doctrines that would potentially cloud the impartiality of a SC justice.
Congrats.  You now earned the LOL!
A 35 year old news report  was misused as to the source of The HandMaiden’s Tale. But don’t let that ruin your narrative.
Never mind that People of Praise allegedly oppresses, subjugates, and disempowers the women in its ranks so much that Barrett has been forced to  become a federal judge.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51183 on: September 24, 2020, 11:35:09 AM »

Yep.  People of Praise does share similarities in its doctrines to the People of Hope, and both are Charismatics.   Either community excludes women from the highest leadership positions and teaches that men are the spiritual leaders of their families.  So... tomayto,  tomahto. 
That answer doesn’t even rise to a LOL! it is so juvenile.
But at least the dems got another chance to don the HandMaiden costumes they bought for the Kavanaugh Cavalcade of lies.

You're not following at all.   You post that Newsweek misreported that Atwood based her Gilead society on People of Praise,  when it was a newspaper clipping on a different group called People of Hope.   You implied that this somehow  meant that the cultish comparison between Coney Barret's group and Atwood's Gilead was therefore invalid.

I pointed out that People of Praise,  like People of Hope, also is a charismatic group which does not allow women in leadership positions and places the man as the spiritual leader of a family.   And P of P also used to call women members "handmaidens, " only changing the name when the book was published and widely read.   Therefore,  your distinction,  while it did show a magazine's error,  was a distinction without a difference.
 The two groups indeed share cultish sexist doctrines that would potentially cloud the impartiality of a SC justice.
Congrats.  You now earned the LOL!
A 35 year old news report  was misused as to the source of The HandMaiden’s Tale. But don’t let that ruin your narrative.
Never mind that People of Praise allegedly oppresses, subjugates, and disempowers the women in its ranks so much that Barrett has been forced to  become a federal judge.

Why do you guys indulge this motherfucker’s bullshit!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51184 on: September 24, 2020, 11:38:12 AM »

---Black attorney general chokes up during Taylor announcement---

Trying to feel the pain, but seriously to start shooting at cops?

To be fair, seems that one shooter was an outlier

Bothers me more that people in so many cities participated in protest last night.  Not criticizing them at all - but the overall picture in terms of PEACE looks bleak.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51185 on: September 24, 2020, 11:43:38 AM »

---Black attorney general chokes up during Taylor announcement---

Trying to feel the pain, but seriously to start shooting at cops?
The shooters should be charged with recklessly endangering the wall behind the officers.

In your view should the charge to Detective Hankinson be attempted murder since he intended to hit someone?

(Hankinson is the one that emptied his clip and was discharged by Louisville PD almost immediately for - well - what he was eventually charged with - wanton disregard)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51186 on: September 24, 2020, 11:50:59 AM »

You're right, Larry. Each of us has observed that there is no utility in engaging them, since they refuse to discuss the Criminal-in-Chief's outrageous actions and threats, like the one below.

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The President said Wednesday, "We may or may not approve" the guidelines, casting them "as a political move more than anything else."

In explaining his reasoning, the President said, "I have tremendous trust in these massive companies. ... When they come back and they say that we have something that works and absolutely works, and they're coming back with great numbers and statistics and tests and everything else that they have to come back with, I don't see any reason why it should be delayed further. Because if they delay it a week or two weeks or three weeks, that's a lot of lives you're talking about."

The FDA on Wednesday told CNN it was "respectfully" declining to comment when asked about President Trump's statement.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51187 on: September 24, 2020, 12:07:55 PM »

---Black attorney general chokes up during Taylor announcement---

Trying to feel the pain, but seriously to start shooting at cops?

To be fair, seems that one shooter was an outlier

Bothers me more that people in so many cities participated in protest last night.  Not criticizing them at all - but the overall picture in terms of PEACE looks bleak.

NO JUSTICE?
NO PEACE.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51188 on: September 24, 2020, 12:11:52 PM »

Yep.  People of Praise does share similarities in its doctrines to the People of Hope, and both are Charismatics.   Either community excludes women from the highest leadership positions and teaches that men are the spiritual leaders of their families.  So... tomayto,  tomahto. 
That answer doesn’t even rise to a LOL! it is so juvenile.
But at least the dems got another chance to don the HandMaiden costumes they bought for the Kavanaugh Cavalcade of lies.

You're not following at all.   You post that Newsweek misreported that Atwood based her Gilead society on People of Praise,  when it was a newspaper clipping on a different group called People of Hope.   You implied that this somehow  meant that the cultish comparison between Coney Barret's group and Atwood's Gilead was therefore invalid.

I pointed out that People of Praise,  like People of Hope, also is a charismatic group which does not allow women in leadership positions and places the man as the spiritual leader of a family.   And P of P also used to call women members "handmaidens, " only changing the name when the book was published and widely read.   Therefore,  your distinction,  while it did show a magazine's error,  was a distinction without a difference.
 The two groups indeed share cultish sexist doctrines that would potentially cloud the impartiality of a SC justice.
Congrats.  You now earned the LOL!
A 35 year old news report  was misused as to the source of The HandMaiden’s Tale. But don’t let that ruin your narrative.
Never mind that People of Praise allegedly oppresses, subjugates, and disempowers the women in its ranks so much that Barrett has been forced to  become a federal judge.

Why do you guys indulge this motherfucker’s bullshit!

Thanks,  Larry.   I'm done.   When he pretends we're arguing a point that no one disputed,  then I know I'm looking at either dementia or trolling.   Deliberate obtuseness shouldn't be indulged.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51189 on: September 24, 2020, 12:13:11 PM »

---Black attorney general chokes up during Taylor announcement---

Trying to feel the pain, but seriously to start shooting at cops?

To be fair, seems that one shooter was an outlier

Bothers me more that people in so many cities participated in protest last night.  Not criticizing them at all - but the overall picture in terms of PEACE looks bleak.

NO JUSTICE?
NO PEACE.

What do you prefer he charges to have been?
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« Reply #51190 on: September 24, 2020, 12:17:21 PM »

"Only when you take care of your own citizens will you find a true basis for cooperation," Trump told the General Assembly.

If only he didn't mean "kill off" by "take care of."
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51191 on: September 24, 2020, 12:27:11 PM »



What do you prefer he charges to have been?

The original warrant was changed to a "knock and announce" warrant.   The failure to properly execute the announce led to Walker's firing on what were therefore perceived as unknown intruders,  which in turn led to the return fire and death of an innocent resident.   How would you charge an act of negligence that caused the death of an innocent person?   Not rocket science.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51192 on: September 24, 2020, 12:27:40 PM »

Hearing there is now a new virus in China.

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« Reply #51193 on: September 24, 2020, 12:30:40 PM »

In the United States, all states define negligent homicide by statute, often defining the offense as involuntary manslaughter.   

https://www.expertlaw.com/library/criminal-law/what-are-homicide-and-murder

Hope this is of use.
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« Reply #51194 on: September 24, 2020, 12:34:37 PM »



What do you prefer he charges to have been?

The original warrant was changed to a "knock and announce" warrant.   The failure to properly execute the announce led to Walker's firing on what were therefore perceived as unknown intruders,  which in turn led to the return fire and death of an innocent resident.   How would you charge an act of negligence that caused the death of an innocent person?   Not rocket science.

Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said Louisville Metro officers knocked and announced themselves before breaching the door to Breonna Taylor's apartment.
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