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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53655 on: October 17, 2020, 08:36:13 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53656 on: October 17, 2020, 08:41:14 AM »

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Former White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, has told friends that President Donald Trump "is the most flawed person" he's ever known.

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends, CNN has learned.

The reporting comes from a new CNN special scheduled to air Sunday night, "The Insiders: A Warning from Former Trump Officials," in which former senior administration officials -- including former national security adviser John Bolton, former Health and Human Services scientist Rick Bright and former Department of Homeland Security general counsel John Mitnick -- explain why they think the President is unfit for office.

Kelly's sentiments about the President's transactional nature and dishonesty have been shared by other former members of the Trump administration who also appear in the special.

Fuck John Kelly who still hasn’t acknowledged LYING about a US Congresswoman.
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« Reply #53657 on: October 17, 2020, 09:11:05 AM »

I think people have finally realized that nearly everything Trump says is essentially the equivalent of 'we're gonna build a big beautiful wall, and Mexico is going to pay for it.'
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53658 on: October 17, 2020, 09:53:19 AM »



Fuck me, the Amy argument was that raping prisoners wasn't part of the guard's job and didn't benefit his employer, so the county wasn't liable.  How about a duty to supervise their employees, a duty to protect prisoners under their care, hiring such a person in the first place.  That's a lot of culpability and negligence.  And this wasn't a one time sexual assault but an ongoing series of assaults...


It's weird that she joined with a ruling that did hold a county liable,  in another similar case.   Why was she seeing the county as negligent in one case but not the other?   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53659 on: October 17, 2020, 10:13:00 AM »

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Fuck me, the Amy argument was that raping prisoners wasn't part of the guard's job and didn't benefit his employer, so the county wasn't liable.  How about a duty to supervise their employees, a duty to protect prisoners under their care, hiring such a person in the first place.  That'su a lot of culpability and negligence.  And this wasn't a one time sexual assault but an ongoing series of assaults...


It's weird that she joined with a ruling that did hold a county liable,  in another similar case.   Why was she seeing the county as negligent in one case but not the other?
maybe you need to read the opinions 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53660 on: October 17, 2020, 10:45:28 AM »

Scholar, fix your quote boxes.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53661 on: October 17, 2020, 10:57:35 AM »

Designated Survivor is now on Netflix.   Watched the first coupla episodes,  not bad,  with a scary/interesting premise:  what if a bomb wiped out POTUS,  the entire Congress,  SCOTUS,  cabinet,  and anyone else attending the SOTU speech?   Only two people, the HUD secretary, and a congresswoman survive.   The HUD guy,  played by Kiefer Sutherland, becomes the POTUS, and turns out to be a man of great integrity.   As escapism,  I think this series might be satisfying.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53662 on: October 17, 2020, 11:12:02 AM »

Designated Survivor is now on Netflix.   Watched the first coupla episodes,  not bad,  with a scary/interesting premise:  what if a bomb wiped out POTUS,  the entire Congress,  SCOTUS,  cabinet,  and anyone else attending the SOTU speech?   Only two people, the HUD secretary, and a congresswoman survive.   The HUD guy,  played by Kiefer Sutherland, becomes the POTUS, and turns out to be a man of great integrity.   As escapism,  I think this series might be satisfying.

I enjoyed it, except for the realism...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53663 on: October 17, 2020, 11:15:36 AM »

Designated Survivor is now on Netflix.   Watched the first coupla episodes,  not bad,  with a scary/interesting premise:  what if a bomb wiped out POTUS,  the entire Congress,  SCOTUS,  cabinet,  and anyone else attending the SOTU speech?   Only two people, the HUD secretary, and a congresswoman survive.   The HUD guy,  played by Kiefer Sutherland, becomes the POTUS, and turns out to be a man of great integrity.   As escapism,  I think this series might be satisfying.
Sadly, I thought the show got progressively worse. Though maybe I'll use some of the plot points to buttress my arguments here
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53664 on: October 17, 2020, 11:22:28 AM »

It's weird that she joined with a ruling that did hold a county liable,  in another similar case.   Why was she seeing the county as negligent in one case but not the other?

Different fact patterns.
In the case where the county was held liable, there had been a prior incident of inappropriate sexual conduct by a guard and the county jail did nada in response.
That county also refused state materials on sexual misconduct.

The standard for gov't liability is rather high in these cases.
The Chief Appeals Circuit Judge Diane Wood stated: “The question is whether the country created an environment that showed deliberate indifference to a substantial risk of harm.”   That was during the oral arguments, and is a seriously high bar to clear. 

Fwiw, Diane Wood was my Civil Procedure prof, a nice enough woman and solid professor if a little dull.  Her husband at the time Dennis Hutchinson was a much more interesting character and a more lively teacher.  His course on slavery era law was the second best class I took there.

Both cases decided at the fed appeals level there was no county liability, but the 2-1 decision in one case was overturned by the full circuit en banc.  Meaning plaintiffs/victims got kind of lucky there (the one dissent almost certainly saved them).  The full panel decision was issued just this May and interestingly the 7-4 decision involved 6 female judges who favored liability for the sexual assaults by a margin of 5-1.  The males judges split 2-3 against liability.

It should be noted that Amy C-B didn't write either opinion and her vote wasn't needed for the outcome in either.  So these were low pressure decisions for her.

I'd also note that the abuse in the liability case was much worse and much more extensive (3 years and many women), and the perp guard got a 30 year sentence, whereas in the other case involved one (pregnant) woman, a few incidents and the guard lost his job but plead guilty to a lesser charge and did no time.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53665 on: October 17, 2020, 11:23:27 AM »

Scholar, fix your quote boxes.
After you fix your facts.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53667 on: October 17, 2020, 11:30:00 AM »

Designated Survivor is now on Netflix.   Watched the first coupla episodes,  not bad,  with a scary/interesting premise:  what if a bomb wiped out POTUS,  the entire Congress,  SCOTUS,  cabinet,  and anyone else attending the SOTU speech?   Only two people, the HUD secretary, and a congresswoman survive.   The HUD guy,  played by Kiefer Sutherland, becomes the POTUS, and turns out to be a man of great integrity.   As escapism,  I think this series might be satisfying.
Sadly, I thought the show got progressively worse. Though maybe I'll use some of the plot points to buttress my arguments here


At best the second most impressive WH show.



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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53668 on: October 17, 2020, 11:37:26 AM »

Independents in this poll favor Trump 43-41, after Dems had a 47-40 cushion earlier

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_US_092820/

Its OLD - we are waiting for the new Monmouth numbers

But last 3 polls have Biden overall

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+5 (latest)



Trump - trending
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53669 on: October 17, 2020, 11:55:10 AM »

Another Great Year for Trump!!
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