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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56655 on: November 11, 2020, 02:52:39 AM »

I'd have to check the numbers of family farms in the US, but it's small and dwindling.  Most farming is done by large agribusiness plus farming families who own large tracts of land.  Farming is big business with big gov't subsidies.
It's also become rather high-tech and automated and science-based.  And farmers need a good education and understanding of technical agricultural issues to do well.

And education doesn't have to be expensive.
The system prevalent in the US certainly does exclude and reduce the number of people who go to college and graduate.  Better systems are certainly possible. 
The Dem plan to make 2 year community colleges free is a start in that direction.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56656 on: November 11, 2020, 03:19:22 AM »

The GOP is right, same as always.

There has been voter fraud in PA:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/-trump-supporter-arrested-voter-fraud-pennsylvania_n_5f91e43ec5b61c185f4848de

It's not that it isn't possible to do this sort of thing and try to vote twice.
It's just very hard to do on any kind of scale.
5 or 10 extra cheating Trump (or Biden) double votes is completely negligible and worthless.  And someone would be doing this while facing up to 5 years in jail.
The reward/risk calculation is pretty underwhelming.

The only kind of vote cheating worth doing is something that takes place on a large scale.  Like hacking a vote tabulating center.  Or removing 100K people from the voter rolls.  Or having very few polling stations in a big city so that there are long lines which discourage thousands from not voting.  Or requiring photo ID's which poor urban folks might not have.  The benefits of these approaches is that they effect large numbers and are considered legal.

A lone fool trying to vote for his dead mom is impractical and futile and kind of sad. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56658 on: November 11, 2020, 08:39:36 AM »

Mike Pompeo has stated this morning that the New York Jets will win this year's Super Bowl.
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« Reply #56659 on: November 11, 2020, 08:45:32 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56660 on: November 11, 2020, 08:49:06 AM »

The Party of Deceit (tm) continues down the path of trying to destroy America:
https://news.yahoo.com/pennsylvania-gop-election-audit-233821122.html

Why are they delaying things? Evidence? Nah, they admit they have none.
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« Reply #56661 on: November 11, 2020, 08:54:51 AM »

Good time for Iran or Russia or China to make a move, due to Trump:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/pentagon-policy-official-resigns/index.html
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Hamilton Samuels

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« Reply #56662 on: November 11, 2020, 09:09:17 AM »

Imagine that Donald Trump had won the popular vote by more than 5 million votes last week, but Joe Biden was leading by a total of 70,000 votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. Essentially making the result the inverse of 2016.

If that were the situation today, then what would you think the chances would be that Joe Biden would, eventually, wind up being inaugurated as president


I would expect Biden lawyers out in full force

Then you don't know Joe.

Thanks for playing. Go home, now.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56663 on: November 11, 2020, 09:11:11 AM »

never mind - read it wrong
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« Reply #56664 on: November 11, 2020, 09:17:30 AM »

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/mary-schmich/ct-met-schmich-loser-trump-poem-20201111-u2u4zbnjirfjnox3mhmkihamfq-story.html

LOSER

I WON I WON I WON I WON!

I won I won I won!

I won I won I won I won!

This race is far from done.

I WON I WON I WON I WON!

I’ll tweet it like a scream

And if I tweet it very loud

I’ll wake from this bad dream.

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Sniffle.

.

Remember, folks, not long ago?

My rallies proud and large?

The swarm of fans who risked their lives

So I could stay in charge?

.

They cheered me like a deity

No masks to block their cries

They clapped and roared and loved me

As I superspread my lies.

.

The fake news said I would not win —

They’re always, always wrong —

The only way that I could lose

Was if the count went wrong.

.

And when the early tally came

I really did quite well!

But then the votes for Joe rolled in —

As fraudulent as hell.

.

I bellowed: We must stop the count!

The count’s a giant scam!

I’m still the chosen president

I AM I AM I AM.

.

But still the count kept going

And it did not go my way

In Michigan, Wisconsin

Even down in red G-A.

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The libs praised Stacey Abrams

And her leftist voter pack

No way I’d be defeated

By some women?! And they’re Black?!!

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Sniff.

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To prove that I’m the winner

And the leader of this land

I headed to my golf course

With my putter in my hand.

.

I rode there in my motorcade

Fans cheered me on my path

I wore my all-white MAGA hat

I tried to hide my wrath.

.

And when the networks called it —

When they said Joe Biden’s name —

I felt a chilling, red-hot rage

But kept on with my game.

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Folks partied in the streets, I heard,

Some broke into a dance

They cheered for Joe in Germany

The church bells rang in France.

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Libs cried “The emp’r has no clothes!”

Some sang, “The witch is dead!”

But I? I golfed on bravely

And I covered up my dread.

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They honked their silly, lib’rl horns

But here’s what made me gag —

The sight of all those Democrats

Who waved our country’s flag.

.

Now Rudy and my lawyers

Figure out what we should do

There’s really just one answer —

It’s to sue and sue and sue.

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Concession is for losers

And for those who don’t mind pain

For victims, wimps and Democrats

And guys like John McCain.

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Sniff. Don’t get me started on Arizona.

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Some say I’m throwing tantrums

That I’m just a bratty boy

A kid who’s starved for mommy’s love

So won’t give up his toy.

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Some say I’m Putin’s puppet

In some giant Russian plot

To undermine democracy

I tell you I AM NOT!

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But strongmen are my biggest fans —

Like Obrador and Xi —

They won’t acknowledge Biden yet —

Their bets are still on me.

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We manly men love macho guys

And women love us too!

And what could be more manly

Than a good old-fashioned coup?

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Chortles.

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I think back on the past four years

By God it’s been a trip

I tore this land to shreds so fast

Like flimsy paper — rip!

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I never was a leader

But I surely was The Boss

I turned your fears to hatred

Fed my ego with your loss.

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And still I seed your minds with fear

I plant the rot of doubt

And if I tweet lies loud enough

I’ll never get kicked out.

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The GOP still backs my play

They know I hold the ace:

They cross me and I’ll tweet it —

I’ll divorce them from my base.

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Yet Sleepy Joe and Kamala

Now act like king and queen

They’re even taking credit

For my miracle vaccine!

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I WON I WON I WON I DID!

You know what else is swell?

Inauguration Day is booked

At my D.C. hotel.


And if things go against me

Well, of course, I just might flee

Or maybe I can get a job

As host on “Jeopardy?”
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56665 on: November 11, 2020, 09:20:14 AM »

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The f*****g nerve it takes to not only benefit from an already imbalanced system but to then gut the Voting Rights Act, engage in unprecedented gerrymandering, remove voting machines to cause hours-long lines, pass voter ID laws, cripple the USPS & then claim YOU'VE been cheated.

http://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelHattem/status/1325664627443830784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1325664627443830784%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2020%2F11%2F10%2F1994762%2F-Tuesday-Night-Owls-Climate-hawks-relieved-by-Biden-win-and-say-they-ll-push-where-we-need-to-push
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« Reply #56666 on: November 11, 2020, 09:38:44 AM »

Great Trump poem from the Trib.   Let's hope Jeopardy says no.   Though I'm sure some meme artist somewhere has come up with special Jeopardy categories for Trump.   "I'll take Puppet Governments for $400, Ken..."

IIRC,  Buzzy Cohen wanted Alex's job.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56667 on: November 11, 2020, 09:38:55 AM »

The f*****g nerve it takes to not only benefit from an already imbalanced system but to then gut the Voting Rights Act, engage in unprecedented gerrymandering, remove voting machines to cause hours-long lines, pass voter ID laws, cripple the USPS & then claim YOU'VE been cheated.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
Systematic voter suppression is much more effective than somebody trying to vote both by mail and in person (which is one extra vote that's not hard to catch and illegal).

The same day the Voting Act case was decided (with CJ Roberts saying that the federal controls were no longer needed) some states -- pretty sure Texas -- passed voter suppression laws the same day as the court decision. 

As Larry like to say, you know your policies are unpopular and bad for most folks when your main electoral strategy is to reduce the vote, dampen turnout and have as few people vote as possible.
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« Reply #56668 on: November 11, 2020, 10:22:31 AM »

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« Reply #56669 on: November 11, 2020, 10:24:36 AM »

Summer Zervos,  Jean Carroll,  Cyrus Vance,  Letitia James -- Trump's real transition team.   
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