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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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kidcarter8

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« Reply #62115 on: January 07, 2021, 09:02:03 PM »
They went to war to try and overthrow our government.


You're a moron.

And irresponsible takes such as this are contributory
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« Reply #62116 on: January 07, 2021, 09:04:36 PM »
It wasn't a PM, Kid.


When I quote someone I am responding to them.

You can chime in - but dont expect it to get into any flow.

Just how I do it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #62117 on: January 07, 2021, 09:06:25 PM »
Chris Webber:

"If they were black and brown, ALL of them would have been shot on sight"

False

And contributory

TNT getting an e-mail tomorrow.
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« Reply #62118 on: January 07, 2021, 09:09:40 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on January 07, 2021, 09:02:03 PM
They went to war to try and overthrow our government.


You're a moron.

And irresponsible takes such as this are contributory

You are on the New Jersey cracker terrorist watch list.
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« Reply #62119 on: January 07, 2021, 09:17:42 PM »
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« Reply #62120 on: January 07, 2021, 09:20:26 PM »

Despite plenty of warnings of a possible insurrection and ample resources and time to prepare, the Capitol Police planned only for a free speech demonstration.

Still stinging from the uproar over the violent response by law enforcement to protests last June near the White House, officials also were intent on avoiding any appearance that the federal government was deploying active duty or National Guard troops against Americans.

The result is the U.S. Capitol was overrun Wednesday and officers in a law enforcement agency with a large operating budget and experience in high-security events protecting lawmakers were overwhelmed for the world to see. Four protesters died, including one shot inside the building.

The rioting and loss of control has raised serious questions over security at the Capitol for future events. The actions of the day also raise troubling concerns about the treatment of mainly white Trump supporters, who were allowed to roam through the building for hours, while Black and brown protesters who demonstrated last year over police brutality faced more robust and aggressive policing.


https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-riots-police-coronavirus-pandemic-9c39a4ddef0ab60a48828a07e4d03380
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« Reply #62121 on: January 07, 2021, 09:29:31 PM »
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« Reply #62122 on: January 07, 2021, 09:30:39 PM »
1/10. Whatever happened to protecting monuments and federal property, which seemed so important to our government this summer and fall?
2/10. The idea of protecting property was used to beat people protesting for the right of African Americans to stay alive.
3/10. The idea of protecting monuments was used to justify surveilling any American who might be inclined to protest.
4/10. Yet fascists can casually invade our most important federal property, the Capitol.


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1347316251459284999.html
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« Reply #62123 on: January 07, 2021, 09:33:08 PM »
Ten years a pop to each and every one. Fortunately we already have the cages.

I will visit Kiid at the Otay Mesa facility and try to throw him a roll of paper towel.
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« Reply #62124 on: January 07, 2021, 09:39:34 PM »
Biden, Harris accused of 'gaslighting' for suggesting Capitol Hill rioters, 'peaceful' BLM double standard



"Four people are dead after what happened yesterday. And you know what? People died last summer, too. Countless businesses destroyed. People’s livelihoods set on fire and stolen. You refused to condemn that violence. Yesterday was horrific, but you’ve lost your right to moralize," National Review writer Alexandra DeSanctis scolded the incoming president.

"This is complete nonsense," conservative writer A.G. Hamilton reacted to Biden's remarks. "It's gaslighting that requires ignoring what we actually witnessed on a nightly basis last summer."

"They really just know how to make everything so much worse. This is untrue, divisive race-baiting, and absolutely no one in the media will call her out for this lie," podcast host Allie Beth Stuckey tweeted in reaction to Harris. "This is the same woman who tweeted out a BAIL FUND for rioters who burned down Minneapolis."



https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-harris-gaslighting-capitol-hill-rioters-black-lives-matter
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« Reply #62125 on: January 07, 2021, 09:40:30 PM »
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« Reply #62126 on: January 07, 2021, 09:45:44 PM »
According to Politico, Stenger's resignation is just one of several from law enforcement in the wake of Wednesday's mayhem. Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund is resigning effective Jan. 16 and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has said that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving will be resigning as well.

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McConnell said Wednesday "represented a massive failure of institutions, protocols, and planning that are supposed to protect the first branch of our federal government."

"A painstaking investigation and thorough review must now take place, and significant changes must follow," he added. "Initial bipartisan discussions have already begun among committees of oversight and Congressional Leadership."


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« Reply #62127 on: January 07, 2021, 09:56:43 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on January 07, 2021, 07:00:01 PM
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It's that you keep trying to deflect the conversation, to minimize what the rioters and terrorists and rebels were trying to do and were doing.

Some of them were their to KIDNAP congressmen/women.

Why can't you admit they were out for far worse than BLM?!

And yes, I do minimize.  Compared to what is being reported

This was easily containable.  And anyone who entered the Capitol

a). broke the law
b)  was in danger of being injured/killed.

Let it all be dealt with now, including police resignations, suspensions and the arrest of the wildings.

I responded to the version of this post that was pre-edit, a couple minutes before your edit appeared, so I missed it.

No, you minimize it totally, not just "compared to what is being reported."

You refuse to address the kidnapping intention (shown by some having brought zip ties with them and their wanting to know "where did they go?" of the congresspeople).

You refuse to address the explicitly stated intention to revolt. War is an overstatement, but coup or revolution are not, even if they were dolts and went about it badly.

It's not just trespass. It's not just vandalism.

And it was urged on by President Trump, on Parler, not just in person. And supported. "We love you." Or Ivanka's calling them patriots.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #62128 on: January 07, 2021, 09:57:18 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on January 07, 2021, 09:02:03 PM
They went to war to try and overthrow our government.


You're a moron.

And irresponsible takes such as this are contributory

To what?
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« Reply #62129 on: January 07, 2021, 09:58:09 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on January 07, 2021, 09:04:36 PM
It wasn't a PM, Kid.


When I quote someone I am responding to them.

You can chime in - but dont expect it to get into any flow.

Just how I do it.

While ignoring it when others are posting.

Got it.

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