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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21690 on: October 14, 2019, 07:03:26 PM »



"So you say you're the prime minister of England and you live at 10 Downing St.  Is there a caregiver or relative that we can call, to come and get you?"

(there is a caption contest that's been going on in the UK for this pic)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21692 on: October 14, 2019, 08:35:18 PM »

How you gonna trust the police when you can’t trust the police?


https://www.npr.org/2019/10/13/769891781/fort-worth-officer-kills-woman-in-her-bedroom-in-response-to-open-structure-call

The concerned neighbor, James Smith, told local television station WFAA that he never intended for an aggressive law enforcement response.



JAMES SMITH is a fucking MORON.


https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/14/former-fort-worth-police-officer-aaron-dean-charged-murder-atatiana-jefferson/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21693 on: October 14, 2019, 08:44:57 PM »

How you gonna trust the police when you can’t trust the police?


https://www.npr.org/2019/10/13/769891781/fort-worth-officer-kills-woman-in-her-bedroom-in-response-to-open-structure-call

Yes, that killing is what led to the stupid Bambi post.

Nah, my post was in response to what I saw on Law and Order.
Girl in toilet getting terrorised by killer.
If only she'd had a gun, knew how to uses it, had it strapped on and ready to fire at a moment's notice.

Ah, fictional television shows, pushing voting philosophies.

So stupid.

Look at the piece I posted, then, and think again. (Think once, at least!)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21694 on: October 14, 2019, 08:51:57 PM »

You can stand on "if we hadn't left the Turks would not have come in" - but that was not this president's belief.

So the “president” believed that a “nato ally” was going to attack despite the presence of US troops in the region conducting a mission vital to our interests and that there was nothing the man elected to be the President of the United States of America could do about it but retreat?

I mean, we all knew Trump’s tough guy thing was an act, but for a Trumpist to so casually concede the point is telling.

Turns out, Turkey's invasion was caused by the impeachment inquiry, says Liz Cheney.

Amazing how far the GOP and their adherents will go to avoid admitting the truth.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/liz-cheney-blames-turkeys-invasion-of-syria-on-democrats-impeachment-inquiry?ref=home&fbclid=IwAR1cjL0oNauzsmIKNa73Hg9Bmrv4E8S7-NC-61HE9ONbGck5K1owAHwKvzU
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21695 on: October 14, 2019, 09:48:34 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21696 on: October 15, 2019, 12:16:17 AM »

In today's news:

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Giuliani took a half-million dollars from one of his arrested "associates."

Trump's Russia adviser spent ten hours telling the House how Giuliani had established a shadow Ukraine foreign policy to benefit Trump personally.

Pompeo's former aide is scheduled later this week.

And Bolton reportedly told his staff to report the Giuliani work to WH attorneys.

Separately:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-followed-his-gut-on-syria-calamity-came-fast/ar-AAILbg6?fbclid=IwAR3g4qx0TNncev7fpT3XUV_LJ0OmbeA6x_5Fom6PJvcPg9yweYrNytCv03I

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President Trump’s acquiescence to Turkey’s move to send troops deep inside Syrian territory has in only one week’s time turned into a bloody carnage, forced the abandonment of a successful five-year-long American project to keep the peace on a volatile border, and given an unanticipated victory to four American adversaries: Russia, Iran, the Syrian government and the Islamic State.

Rarely has a presidential decision resulted so immediately in what his own party leaders have described as disastrous consequences for American allies and interests. How this decision happened — springing from an “off-script moment” with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, in the words of a senior American diplomat — likely will be debated for years by historians, Middle East experts and conspiracy theorists.

But this much already is clear: Mr. Trump ignored months of warnings from his advisers about what calamities likely would ensue if he followed his instincts to pull back from Syria and abandon America’s longtime allies, the Kurds. He had no Plan B, other than to leave. The only surprise is how swiftly it all collapsed around the president and his depleted, inexperienced foreign policy team.

But... this is the piece that needs the most attention:
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And over the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, about 250 miles from the Syrian border, according to two American officials.

Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan’s hostages. To fly them out of Incirlik would be to mark the de facto end of the Turkish-American alliance. To keep them there, though, is to perpetuate a nuclear vulnerability that should have been eliminated years ago.

“I think this is a first — a country with U.S. nuclear weapons stationed in it literally firing artillery at US forces,” Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies wrote last week.

For his part, Mr. Erdogan claims nuclear ambitions of his own: Only a month ago, speaking to supporters, he said, he said he “cannot accept” rules that keep Turkey from possessing nuclear weapons of its own.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21697 on: October 15, 2019, 07:34:39 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21698 on: October 15, 2019, 09:55:55 AM »

Wow, that was fast.  Russian troops moving in to fill vacuum left by retreating US forces:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syria-says-government-soldiers-enter-manbij-after-us-troops-withdraw/2019/10/15/d494405a-eeb8-11e9-bb7e-d2026ee0c199_story.html

Almost like it was coordinated.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21699 on: October 15, 2019, 10:26:46 AM »


Lord...



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1183912280544763904.html

Another intricate goatfuck that willl cause many American brains to simply abandon efforts to follow the story at all.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21700 on: October 15, 2019, 12:19:52 PM »

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« Reply #21701 on: October 15, 2019, 12:30:30 PM »

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« Reply #21702 on: October 15, 2019, 01:04:04 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50058859

"Apart from fighting IS, the Kurds were fundamental to the US in limiting the influence of rivals Russia and Iran and keeping some leverage on the ground."

So, what objection do you have to the other link?

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Turkey-Syria offensive: Disastrous moment for US Mid-East policy
By Jeremy Bowen

BBC Middle East editor

And why, Kid, are you swallowing Russian press statements?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21703 on: October 15, 2019, 01:36:30 PM »

Wow, that was fast.  Russian troops moving in to fill vacuum left by retreating US forces:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syria-says-government-soldiers-enter-manbij-after-us-troops-withdraw/2019/10/15/d494405a-eeb8-11e9-bb7e-d2026ee0c199_story.html

Almost like it was coordinated.

Trust only BBC.com/news

I like the BBC, but see no reason to use it as my only source of news.  Certainly, nothing in the above that contradicts the Washington Post.

You innocently asked not long ago what Trump could actually do for Putin.  Right now, as in today, there are Russia Troops in bases in Syria that until just a few days ago were occupied by US troops:

https://twitter.com/Kyruer/status/1184018510835568641

If you need a more stark illustration of what is happening than that, then your head is truly too far up Trump's ass to see the light.  Sorry.
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« Reply #21704 on: October 15, 2019, 01:38:03 PM »

Wow, that was fast.  Russian troops moving in to fill vacuum left by retreating US forces:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syria-says-government-soldiers-enter-manbij-after-us-troops-withdraw/2019/10/15/d494405a-eeb8-11e9-bb7e-d2026ee0c199_story.html

Almost like it was coordinated.

Trust only BBC.com/news

I like the BBC, but see no reason to use it as my only source of news.  Certainly, nothing in the above that contradicts the Washington Post.

You innocently asked not long ago what Trump could actually do for Putin.  Right now, as in today, there are Russia Troops in bases in Syria that until just a few days ago were occupied by US troops.

If you need a more stark illustration of what is happening than that, then your head is truly too far up Trump's ass to see the light.  Sorry.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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