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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Somebody please tell Rachel Maddow that the TRIAL use of the malaria drug - the compassionate use by doctors asking so for their patients IS IN FACT using the drug (as Trump said could occur within days)



https://news.yahoo.com/anti-malaria-drug-made-available-155032180.html

[josh]

Asked about the production of n95 masks—and reports that a shortage has led some healthcare workers to use bandannas—Vice President Mike Pence said a stockpile of 35 million masks produced by 3M were now available to use after a legislation change Wednesday night, which apparently addressed a liability issue that companies could face, according to Trump.

And it's great and wtf took them so long?! Why did this not happen a week ago or two weeks ago?

But, Kid? While it's wonderful in and of itself:

The change means Minnesota-based 3M will now be free to sell 420 million masks a year to the U.S. healthcare sector, Pence said.

And Honeywell of Charlotte, N.C., will soon boost N95 mask output in the U.S. by an additional 120 million masks per year, Pence said.

Those figures are still well short of the 3.5 billion N95 respirator masks the U.S. could need in a serious pandemic, an estimate Robert Kadlec, an assistant secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services, gave at a Senate hearing this month.

The stockpile is 1/100th the amount we need - and they still need to get where they need to go, which is going to take time.

It's a start, but not enough are being made.

[kiidcarter8]

The stockpile is 1/100th the amount we need -


We'll see.

[josh]

The stockpile is 1/100th the amount we need -


We'll see.

Duh.

[kiidcarter8]

Doesn't take a genius

Trump will order production when it becomes DEFINITE that we as a nation need to.  Could be very soon.  Could be never.

Having invoked the measure, he is now free to use his options.  And sure - he may at times appear more frugal than Josh from Elba and other worrying Americans would like.

It's tough to be untrusting.  I understand.  When you are locked into it so fully, that is even tougher.

[josh]

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

This is a more optimistic look than the Imperial College paper.

I would trust its view more if we didn't have folks like Diaz-Balart, Nunes, Stitt, etc. wandering around.

[josh]

Doesn't take a genius

Trump will order production when it becomes DEFINITE that we as a nation need to.  Could be very soon.  Could be never.

Having invoked the measure, he is now free to use his options.  And sure - he may at times appear more frugal than Josh from Elba and other worrying Americans would like.

It's tough to be untrusting.  I understand.  When you are locked into it so fully, that is even tougher.

Kid, the consideration of using the DPA started 3 weeks ago, which is when he should have invoked it.

U.S. mulls using sweeping powers to ramp up production of coronavirus protective gear
That was Feb 27th.

We knew then that there was a shortage of masks. There was no need to wait 3 more weeks, so that there would be a complete lack of them in many places!

The lack of trust is not political - it is experiential! It is based on facts in evidence, in a failure to do what has needed to be done.

We don't need to wait and see - we have already seen! You just refuse to open your fucking eyes!

President Donald Trump’s administration is considering invoking special powers through a law called the Defense Production Act to rapidly expand domestic manufacturing of protective masks and clothing to combat the coronavirus in the United States, two U.S. officials told Reuters.

[facilitatorn]

http://slate.com/business/2020/03/the-republican-plan-to-mail-checks-to-everyone-still-found-a-way-to-screw-the-poor.html

#mitchsucks

#dumptrump

[josh]

The year was 2018.

Preparing for a pandemic ultimately boils down to real people and tangible things: A busy doctor who raises an eyebrow when a patient presents with an unfamiliar fever. A nurse who takes a travel history. A hospital wing in which patients can be isolated. A warehouse where protective masks are stockpiled. A factory that churns out vaccines. A line on a budget. A vote in Congress. “It’s like a chain—one weak link and the whole thing falls apart,” says Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “You need no weak links.”
...
...
So when demand soars during a pandemic, the supply is not set to cope.

American hospitals, which often operate unnervingly close to full capacity, likewise struggled with the surge of patients. Pediatric units were hit especially hard by H1N1, and staff became exhausted from continuously caring for sick children. Hospitals almost ran out of the life-support units that sustain people whose lungs and hearts start to fail. The health-care system didn’t break, but it came too close for comfort—especially for what turned out to be a training-wheels pandemic. The 2009 H1N1 strain killed merely 0.03 percent of those it infected; by contrast, the 1918 strain had killed 1 to 3 percent, and the H7N9 strain currently circulating in China has a fatality rate of 40 percent.
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Tom Inglesby, a biosecurity expert at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told me that if a 1918-style pandemic hit, his hospital “would need in the realm of seven times as many critical-care beds and four times as many ventilators as we have on hand.”
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The University of Nebraska Medical Center is one of the best in the country at handling dangerous and unusual diseases, Ron Klain, who was in charge of the Obama administration’s Ebola response, tells me. Only the NIH and Emory University Hospital have biocontainment units of a similar standard, he says, but both are smaller. Those three hospitals were the only ones ready to take patients when Ebola struck in 2014, but within two months, Klain’s team had raised the number to 50 facilities. It was “a lot of hard work,” he says. “But ultimately, we had 144 beds.” A more contagious and widespread disease would have overwhelmed them all.

It is not news in 2020. It is just ignored data.

"We'll see?"

No, Kid, we have already seen.

[josh]

The year was 2018.

This mock pandemic killed 150 million people. Next time it might not be a drill.
WaPo

We knew. But the president repeatedly ignored the advice he received for short-term political reasons.

We don't need to see, later, Kid.

We have already seen.

The advisers were asked to give recommendations to a fictional president (who remained offstage). They received briefings and news reports as the exercise progressed. Their consensus advice was repeatedly ignored and overridden by the president for short-term political reasons.

In real life, NSC meetings would not include members of Congress. But the political leaders consistently highlighted the political pressures and the need to communicate tough policy decisions effectively, in the judgment of health security experts who watched the exercise.
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In the exercise, schools closed, the demand for surgical masks and respirators far exceeded supply, and hospitals in the United States were quickly overwhelmed — just as many were by a bad flu season this year.
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The Johns Hopkins pandemic exercise, as some of the audience members noted, took place one week after the top White House official responsible for leading the U.S. response in the event of a deadly pandemic left the administration and the global health security team he oversaw was disbanded under a reorganization by national security adviser John Bolton.
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Added Tara O’Toole, a former top Homeland Security Department official who played the homeland security secretary: “We are in an age of epidemics, but we aren’t treating them like the national security issues that they are.”

[josh]

We have the need. We knew we had the need.

Nationwide projected N95 need for 1918-like influenza pandemic: 1.7 – 7.3 billion
– Approximate cost to purchase: $1-5 billion every several years (shelf life ~ 5 years)
– Approximate cost to store annually: $100 million (Veterans Health Administration)
▪ Gap in national surge needs:
– ASTHO Report (2014): Total number of N95 held by U.S. acute care hospitals ≈ 60M
– This means, hospitals have about 1% of expected national demand for a severe pandemic
▪ Shortages of N95 respirators occurred during SARS (2003) and H1N1 influenza (2009)

[josh]

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/parson-defends-decision-not-to-close-schools-statewide-galloway-urges/article_95ac0bf3-06e4-5a19-8d48-474064a0592f.html

The Governor of Missouri will not shut down the schools.

He will not limit restaurants or pubs.

He will not limit sizes of groups that can get together.

He's a Republican, so he knows better than the scientists.

[kiidcarter8]

"The virus CAN be beaten - and it appears in some cases that is happening"


-  Tucker Carlson

[LarryBnDC]

"The virus CAN be beaten - and it appears in some cases that is happening"


-  Tucker Carlson

Nigga, please...

[LarryBnDC]

"When the politicians complain that TV turns the proceedings into a circus, it should be made clear that the circus was already there, and that TV has merely demonstrated that not all the performers are well trained."

Edward R. Murrow