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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30795 on: April 04, 2020, 05:24:14 PM »

What is wrong with these people?!

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/man-coughed-spit-produce-mass-stop-shop-witness/2102640/

This isn't the first person or the first state to have this happen.

And in my own local supermarket, some folks have been right up in grocery workers' faces about this shortage or that product, as if there were no issues going on. Elsewhere, a man was observed walking up to people, coughing on them, and claiming that he had tested positive, for example.

I hope they all have their respective books thrown at them.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30796 on: April 04, 2020, 05:29:14 PM »

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Gov. Kristi Noem told reporters, "The people themselves are primarily responsible for their safety." She also pointed to the state and national constitutions that "prevent us from taking draconian measures much like the Chinese government has done."

China took strong measures in Wuhan and Hubei after the outbreak was huge.
Otherwise I considered Shanghai to have a voluntary lockdown.  That is, I could go out any time I wanted, for any reason, for as long as I wanted.  There was no restriction on movement, except for entering apartment buildings or courtyards if you didn't live there or been invited in by a resident.  And then they'd take your name and # for contact tracing purposes if later needed.  There just wasn't much open and much to do.  Buses and subways continued runnign the whole 8 week vol lockdown.

I find generally when anyone mentions China they have little idea what they are talking about.  It does make a good boogeyman though.   People should bash China about their far west where they are truly doing bad things.

Boogeyman?
No need, China is now in full view.
Those who know all are spilling the beans.
2000 deaths from the virus in China?  "yeah, right" those who know all are saying.

Now about those doctors in China who tried to alert the world.........
People are getting a much clearer picture of exactly what goes on in China...as temporary morgues in the West are taking over parks etc.
China ...baaah, things will be done differently in the world once this pandemic is over.
Bat soup...baaah.
Roasted rat...baaah.
Roasted civet cat...baaah.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/the-next-pandemic-is-already-coming-unless-humans-change-how-we-interact-with-wildlife-scientists-say/ar-BB12aizC?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

© Richard A. Brooks/AFP via Getty ImagesA civet cat sitting inside a cage at a market in Guangzhou, China. The civet cat is believed to have played a role in transmitting SARS to humans during the 2002 outbreak. (Richard A. Brooks/AFP)

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Cat has a cute face. Cat should be viewed from 'social distance'...not eaten!


Late last year, a horseshoe bat coronavirus likely leaped in China, scientists say, where commerce in exotic animals is driven by luxury tastes in game and demand for parts used for medicinal purposes.

At a “wet market” in Wuhan linked to an early cluster of coronavirus cases, at least one store sold creatures including wolf cubs and masked palm civets for consumption. Such markets, experts say, feature stressed and ill animals stacked in cages, bodily fluids sprinkling down, as well as butchering — prime conditions for viral spillover.


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China...baaah!
The world sees all, and is very angry!
ScoMo launched into a tirade the other day of the wet markets in China.

China...baaah...100,000 to 240,000 Americans are going to die from the Corona virus...best case scenario, we are being told.

"China must be punished", many people are saying.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2020, 05:37:48 PM by bambu. »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30797 on: April 04, 2020, 05:50:33 PM »


I find generally when anyone mentions China they have little idea what they are talking about.  It does make a good boogeyman though.   People should bash China about their far west where they are truly doing bad things.

Up thumb.   The "re-education" camps for Uighurs is horrifying.   And I'm not crazy about the who social credit system,  either. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30798 on: April 04, 2020, 05:51:30 PM »

https://www.newser.com/story/289108/germany-hurls-big-accusation-at-trump-over-n95-masks.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

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German officials are accusing the Trump administration of "modern piracy" after 200,000 high-quality masks were apparently seized before reaching Germany, the Wall Street Journal reports. Seems the N95 masks—sought after by medical professionals for protection against the coronavirus—were made by the US company 3M's factory in China and confiscated in Bangkok among an order of 400,000 pieces. 3M says it knows nothing of the confiscation and "cannot speculate where this report originated," but German officials are fuming, with one calling Trump's actions "inhumane" and another saying "America's behavior since the crisis started has been positively rabid when it comes to medical supplies."

That echoes complaints from other countries about America allegedly hogging medical supplies, Deutsche Welle reports. French politicians say US buyers have snapped up masks destined for France, while Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has ordered an investigation into masks allegedly rerouted from Canada. Trump, meanwhile, has invoked the Defense Production Act to pressure 3M into supplying more N95 masks after the company refused to divert roughly 10 million masks from Asia to the US, an insider tells the Financial Times. "We're not happy with 3M," Trump said Friday. But 3M warned that blocking masks to Canada and Latin America posed "humanitarian implications" and might cause other countries to withhold supplies to America.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30799 on: April 04, 2020, 06:08:40 PM »

If people didn't kill and eat animals both people and animals would be safer and better off.  Meat = murder.  I don't really differentiate between the deaths.  The animal holocaust is endless and appalling.

I was at the Sea of Galilee a few years ago.  And in the lake are what are called St Peter's fish.  And they tout the history by saying that the fish in the lake are the descendants of the fish Jesus and St. Peter and posse ate, and their descendants keep killing and chomping on the same family of fish down the ages.  And I thought how awful that is.  You not only kill and eat fish, but you and your descendants kill and eat them for generations on end for thousands of years.  I thought it a horrible concept of endless cruelty and maybe St Peter and Jesus got what was coming to them.
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« Reply #30800 on: April 04, 2020, 06:23:30 PM »

If people didn't kill and eat animals both people and animals would be safer and better off.  Meat = murder.  I don't really differentiate between the deaths.  The animal holocaust is endless and appalling.
I am certain cows or.pigs, were our positions on the food chain reversed, would keep us in herds and eat us without a second thought. Fuck them.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30801 on: April 04, 2020, 06:29:29 PM »

Case numbers are inaccurate everywhere.
Whether due to official dishonesty, testing limitations, reporting methodology, etc.

China like almost every country got off to a bad start and then took the virus seriously, got their act together, and stopped transmission chains.  A lot of lives were saved as a result.  I'm mostly thinking of the 1.3B Chinese outside of Hubei.

The US had forewarning of what was coming and what worked prophylactically.  And still failed to take adequate measures, botched the measures it did take, wasted time, went in for halfway measures and is only slowly getting serious about fighting the virus.  The ineptitude is shocking.

Look at actions and failures to act.
That's what tells the story.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30802 on: April 04, 2020, 06:31:33 PM »

I am certain cows or.pigs, were our positions on the food chain reversed, would keep us in herds and eat us without a second thought. Fuck them.

1) but they aren't reversed
2) cows are vegetarians
3) humans should be able to act better than pigs
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30803 on: April 04, 2020, 06:31:38 PM »

If people didn't kill and eat animals both people and animals would be safer and better off.  Meat = murder.  I don't really differentiate between the deaths.  The animal holocaust is endless and appalling.


How do you feel about the eating of insects?

What makes it okay to eat plants, which are surely as alive as animals?

Is meat grown in a vat going to be okay? After all, no brains or nervous systems, right?

And do you ever take antibiotics? (I'm prepared to grant that a virus is not alive, for the time being.)
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« Reply #30804 on: April 04, 2020, 06:35:26 PM »

I am certain cows or.pigs, were our positions on the food chain reversed, would keep us in herds and eat us without a second thought. Fuck them.


3) humans should be able to act better than pigs

Whatever in our histories would make you think that?!
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« Reply #30805 on: April 04, 2020, 06:40:02 PM »

https://www.newser.com/story/289108/germany-hurls-big-accusation-at-trump-over-n95-masks.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

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German officials are accusing the Trump administration of "modern piracy" after 200,000 high-quality masks were apparently seized before reaching Germany, the Wall Street Journal reports. Seems the N95 masks—sought after by medical professionals for protection against the coronavirus—were made by the US company 3M's factory in China and confiscated in Bangkok among an order of 400,000 pieces. 3M says it knows nothing of the confiscation and "cannot speculate where this report originated," but German officials are fuming, with one calling Trump's actions "inhumane" and another saying "America's behavior since the crisis started has been positively rabid when it comes to medical supplies."

That echoes complaints from other countries about America allegedly hogging medical supplies, Deutsche Welle reports. French politicians say US buyers have snapped up masks destined for France, while Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has ordered an investigation into masks allegedly rerouted from Canada. Trump, meanwhile, has invoked the Defense Production Act to pressure 3M into supplying more N95 masks after the company refused to divert roughly 10 million masks from Asia to the US, an insider tells the Financial Times. "We're not happy with 3M," Trump said Friday. But 3M warned that blocking masks to Canada and Latin America posed "humanitarian implications" and might cause other countries to withhold supplies to America.

heh

Like I said - Biden don't have the stones
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« Reply #30806 on: April 04, 2020, 06:49:54 PM »

https://www.newser.com/story/289108/germany-hurls-big-accusation-at-trump-over-n95-masks.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

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German officials are accusing the Trump administration of "modern piracy" after 200,000 high-quality masks were apparently seized before reaching Germany, the Wall Street Journal reports. Seems the N95 masks—sought after by medical professionals for protection against the coronavirus—were made by the US company 3M's factory in China and confiscated in Bangkok among an order of 400,000 pieces. 3M says it knows nothing of the confiscation and "cannot speculate where this report originated," but German officials are fuming, with one calling Trump's actions "inhumane" and another saying "America's behavior since the crisis started has been positively rabid when it comes to medical supplies."

That echoes complaints from other countries about America allegedly hogging medical supplies, Deutsche Welle reports. French politicians say US buyers have snapped up masks destined for France, while Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has ordered an investigation into masks allegedly rerouted from Canada. Trump, meanwhile, has invoked the Defense Production Act to pressure 3M into supplying more N95 masks after the company refused to divert roughly 10 million masks from Asia to the US, an insider tells the Financial Times. "We're not happy with 3M," Trump said Friday. But 3M warned that blocking masks to Canada and Latin America posed "humanitarian implications" and might cause other countries to withhold supplies to America.

heh

Like I said - Biden don't have the stones isn't a crook with a shallow perception of the future.

Like we've said, you defend Trump from things that you would have been all over Obama for doing. You are one-sided, narrow-minded, and hypocritical in the extreme.

No news here.
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« Reply #30807 on: April 04, 2020, 07:04:09 PM »

Kiid will be alright. He’s already too sick to host any more disease.
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« Reply #30808 on: April 04, 2020, 07:13:01 PM »

https://www.newser.com/story/289108/germany-hurls-big-accusation-at-trump-over-n95-masks.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

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German officials are accusing the Trump administration of "modern piracy" after 200,000 high-quality masks were apparently seized before reaching Germany, the Wall Street Journal reports. Seems the N95 masks—sought after by medical professionals for protection against the coronavirus—were made by the US company 3M's factory in China and confiscated in Bangkok among an order of 400,000 pieces. 3M says it knows nothing of the confiscation and "cannot speculate where this report originated," but German officials are fuming, with one calling Trump's actions "inhumane" and another saying "America's behavior since the crisis started has been positively rabid when it comes to medical supplies."

That echoes complaints from other countries about America allegedly hogging medical supplies, Deutsche Welle reports. French politicians say US buyers have snapped up masks destined for France, while Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has ordered an investigation into masks allegedly rerouted from Canada. Trump, meanwhile, has invoked the Defense Production Act to pressure 3M into supplying more N95 masks after the company refused to divert roughly 10 million masks from Asia to the US, an insider tells the Financial Times. "We're not happy with 3M," Trump said Friday. But 3M warned that blocking masks to Canada and Latin America posed "humanitarian implications" and might cause other countries to withhold supplies to America.

heh

Like I said - Biden don't have the stones

You idea of strength and manhood is a reason you dumb white people voted us into this shit show.

Have a seat.
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« Reply #30809 on: April 04, 2020, 07:13:18 PM »

We know it takes less than 4 weeks to do an impeachment, five tops if you want Senate witnesses.

If trump hasn’t started putting his pants on like he’s supposed to be doing some kind of job by Easter when the pews were supposed to be packed, start calling your Senators and Congresscritters.
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