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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32820 on: April 29, 2020, 10:05:12 PM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on April 29, 2020, 08:59:36 PM
Quote from: josh on April 29, 2020, 08:39:18 PM
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on April 29, 2020, 08:31:19 PM
Well.
Isn’t that special.
Obama was chauffeured to his golf course over the weekend while Michelle via a PSA was telling the rest of us to stay at  home. 
LOL.

Got a link to those links, Ward?

Sure. Daily news reports.

Oddly enough, when I looked I didn't see it or I would not have asked.

I saw things that purported to be "daily news reports," but which turned out to be older reports with recent dates on them.

https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+golf+course+limousine&sxsrf=ALeKk00q5LMHEY1CAKPKO5D70O5ewwgGqA:1588212179397&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWlJ-2h4_pAhWuct8KHe7eAo0QpwV6BAgMEBw&biw=1163&bih=525

Put up or shut up.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32821 on: April 29, 2020, 10:06:04 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32822 on: April 29, 2020, 10:24:03 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32823 on: April 29, 2020, 10:45:58 PM »
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« Reply #32824 on: April 29, 2020, 11:12:43 PM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on April 29, 2020, 10:45:58 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musk-cnn-ventilators

heh

13 days later, this is what you have to talk about?

And you think I am obsessed.

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« Reply #32825 on: April 29, 2020, 11:49:02 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32826 on: April 30, 2020, 12:18:57 AM »
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If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

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« Reply #32827 on: April 30, 2020, 12:32:54 AM »
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« Reply #32828 on: April 30, 2020, 12:34:12 AM »
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« Reply #32829 on: April 30, 2020, 12:38:52 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/fox-and-friends

Jared, talking about testing at 5:45 into the youtube.

I'll take CNN's screwing up with Musk 100 times over Fox's refusal to call Jared Kushner on his bullshit.

"We've achieved all the milestones we needed. This is a great success story."
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« Reply #32830 on: April 30, 2020, 12:45:44 AM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on April 30, 2020, 12:32:54 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/tech/elon-musk-twitter-coronavirus/index.html

Elon Musk knows about as much about epidemiology as you do, Kid.

Look at the Norway/Sweden comparison.
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« Reply #32831 on: April 30, 2020, 12:49:54 AM »
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An epidemiological comparison of Norway and Sweden: the best natural COVID-19 experiment possible, minus a time machine.

Before we delve in: what was that word I used above? "Epidemiological?" Not political, right? Not economic, right? Feel free to use this analysis as it suits you to inform your views- meditate by the fire, send a tweet, hammertext an enemy- but please don't share those views in the staunchly apolitical comments section below.

NORDIC MODEL N VS MODEL S

The two nations share nearly everything which would be relevant to the COVID-19 pandemic:
- Parrot-less fjords: Physical geography and climate (identical latitude, identical temperature ranges at the same time of year)
- Number of chefs: Population density (though Stockholm is more densely populated than Oslo)
- Vikings: Genetics of natives + similar immigrant populations from similar regions of the world
- Those red fish: diet, physical fitness, and overall health status
- Krone, Krona: Levels of wealth, economic complexity, and advanced health care infrastructure
- Kings who Wave And That's It: Strong central governments with robust regulation and public compliance

Differences: The importation of cases occurred about 10 days earlier in Sweden v Norway (though on March 1, Sweden had 14 reported cases and Norway had 19). Also, only one has a magical ice queen.

Essentially, Sweden and Norway are as near-perfect foils for each other as possible. The only relevant differences are in their responses to the pandemic. It's the best possible natural experiment to test out containment strategies, without a time machine ("let's go back in time and instead, this time we'll do X").

THE APPROACHES

Norway: The Hammer
- Widespread population testing (~31K tests/million)
- Aggressive case-searching and transmission chain delineation
- Closure of schools and some businesses; gatherings restricted to <10; borders sealed: March 12 (798 cases on March 12, 1 death). No stay-at-home order.

Sweden: The Surgical Strike
- Less testing (~12K tests/million)
- Less aggressive case-searching
- Closure of schools for children over 12; gatherings restricted to <50 March 11; voluntary social distancing guidelines recommended (and followed); borders, restaurants and businesses remain open.
- After a very high case and death rate in nursing facilities, visits to those facilities were banned.

THE RESULTS

Current *epidemiology* scorecard: Norway by a mile. Not even close. Sweden had 1.4x as many cases per million, 6.4x as many deaths per million, and their epidemic has lasted at least 3 weeks longer, with serious worries about Sweden missing cases (check out those relative % positives down below, whoa). The data's below. And yet...antibodies.

ANDERS TEGNELL, YOU TEASE, YOU

Sweden's chief epidemiologist has been on camera a ton dropping cryptic hints about how many Swedes appear to have antibodies to the virus. How does he do it?! What does he know?! It's a mystery. He evidently tested some hospital workers and found 27% of them had antibodies. He stated 25% of Stockholm residents have antibodies now. He says they'll be at herd immunity in May. I spend way too much time thinking about Anders Tegnell.

WHAT DOES THIS EXPERIMENT REALLY TELL THE WORLD?

Check it. A million people live in Stockholm, so 25% = 250,000 people. 7835 cases were reported there. So.... ANDERS TEGNELL, MAN OF MYSTERY IS TELLING US THAT THERE ARE 33 INFECTIONS FOR EVERY DIAGNOSED CASE, BUT NOT, LIKE, BY SHOWING US ACTUAL NUMBERS OR ANYTHING.

The experiment also confirms what we already know: social distancing works. It saves lives and reduces morbidity. There are also natural transmission dynamics to COVID-19: the high proportion of asymptomatic / mildly symptomatic cases, an IFR that will eventually be downwardly adjusted, and that curves will wane as R-naught drops naturally.

We really, really, really need to know how many Norwegians have antibodies, and then need to watch like hawks once distancing is lifted and the second wave (the Mop-Up) begins. That's the ultimate scorecard: was death and suffering prevented, or not?

But the bottom line, for all you dichotomists who love either/or instead of both/and: it's definitely both/and. Both distancing, and the natural course of human and viral events.

Of course, the uncontrolled variable is that magical ice queen. It could be her.

DATA

Norway
- Aggressive testing discovered 7710 cases / 169,124 tests (4.6% tests were positive).
- That's 1422 cases/ million Norwegians
- 207 deaths (38 / million Norwegians died)
- Epidemic curve peaked on March 28; deaths peaked on April 7 [Note: ignore "Monday bumps" in Scandinavia since many cases/deaths are not reported on the weekend- Monday gets 3 days' worth]
- Fraction of population exposed/immune: Unknown

Sweden
- Testing discovered 20,302 cases / 119,500 tests (17.0% tests were positive)
- That's 2010 cases / million Swedes
- 2462 deaths (244 / million Swedes died)
- Epidemic curve potentially peaked April 24; deaths potentially peaked in the same week
- Fraction of population exposed/immune: per chief epidemiologist, "25% of Stockholm is potentially immune; 27% of health care workers are"
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32832 on: April 30, 2020, 01:22:13 AM »
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« Reply #32834 on: April 30, 2020, 03:10:05 AM »
Having failed to get their lipstick to stick on the trump pig, Faux news is now trying to tart up the Kushner weasel.

http://secondnexus.com/jared-kushner-trump-virus-response

The tarting failed. The world still sees Jared as the piece of shit failure he is. His future cellmate can spend years explaining to him why none of his brilliant plans worked out and why no one ever bought his bullshit.
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