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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34590 on: May 19, 2020, 12:54:47 AM »

No argument, Bellinger, so you go to snark.

Typical.

What argument?

He’s lying!

He pulled that shit out of his ass because Bright got big ratings on 60 Minutes.

You want snark?

Here’s snark!

https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1262583362079936512?s=21
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34591 on: May 19, 2020, 12:56:58 AM »

No argument, Bellinger, so you go to snark.

Typical.

What argument?

He’s lying!

He pulled that shit out of his ass because Bright got big ratings on 60 Minutes.

You want snark?

Here’s snark!

https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1262583362079936512?s=21
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34592 on: May 19, 2020, 01:06:34 AM »

“Fox News now warning viewers they could die from taking the thing they said was a cure for the disease they said was a hoax.”

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34593 on: May 19, 2020, 01:11:28 AM »

Other people doing his homework for him, wiping his chin, tempting him with candy and whatnot has kept trump to only exacerbating this disaster to WWI levels in under six months instead of the WWII levels he was driving for and would have achieved in the same tight timeframe, had he had his way and more people listened to him and didn’t think, “I wish that disgusting piece of shit would just shut up and go away,” whenever his face appears.

Decent Americans have managed to reduce the size of this republican crisis by at least eightfold by simply behaving smarter than any remaining republican would allow of themselves.

It’s going to be a long hot summer and you can already see trump is getting a little worse each and every day. Hope his white people don’t all descend with him.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34594 on: May 19, 2020, 01:18:53 AM »

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ebef6f1c5b678dd13cc04bb

If the Lord won’t bring about the End of Days, republicans have jinned one up for us so we won’t miss the excitement.

It’s been a big project, but they finally have the pieces in place to pull it off.
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« Reply #34595 on: May 19, 2020, 02:09:12 AM »

There are no valid scientific studies that indicate that drug has any effect on coronavirus.


When thousands benefit....
WHEN THERE IS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THOUSANDS HAVE BENEFITED LET US KNOW. BECAUSE THERE IS NONE NOW.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34596 on: May 19, 2020, 02:40:53 AM »

Not sure what is unscientific about watching a patient get better, survive
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« Reply #34597 on: May 19, 2020, 04:11:50 AM »

Probably because you're a moron.

Q: What is science?
How does it work?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34598 on: May 19, 2020, 08:57:29 AM »

Not sure what is unscientific about watching a patient get better, survive

Jesus Christ.  Trumpism really is just straight-up stupidity.
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« Reply #34599 on: May 19, 2020, 08:58:49 AM »

Not sure what is unscientific about watching a patient get better, survive
Assigning causation without scientific proof, oaf.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34600 on: May 19, 2020, 08:59:07 AM »

1950's style chauvinism used to justify corruption. Your "president" of the United States of America:

"I'd rather have [Pompeo] on the phone with some world leader than have him wash dishes because maybe his wife isn't there."
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34601 on: May 19, 2020, 09:02:20 AM »

1950's style chauvinism used to justify corruption. Your "president" of the United States of America:

"I'd rather have [Pompeo] on the phone with some world leader than have him wash dishes because maybe his wife isn't there."

And as is typical MO for Trump, the outrageous buffoonery is a distraction from the real story:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/saudi-arms-sale-was-second-area-investigation-fired-state-department-n1209521
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« Reply #34602 on: May 19, 2020, 09:31:48 AM »

Raoult spent the first decade of his life in Dakar, in what was then French Senegal, where his father, a military doctor, was posted. To ward off malaria, he was given chloroquine. “I took it all the time when I was a kid,” he told me. In the 1990s, in an early repurposing experiment, he tested the effect of hydroxychloroquine on a frequently fatal condition known as Q fever, which is caused by an intracellular bacterium. Like viruses, intracellular bacteria multiply within the cells of their hosts; Raoult found that hydroxychloroquine, by reducing acidity within the host cells, slowed bacterial growth. He began treating Q fever with a combination of hydroxychloroquine and doxycycline and later used the same drugs for Whipple’s disease, another fatal condition caused by an intracellular bacterium. The combination is now considered to be a standard treatment for both diseases.




https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/magazine/didier-raoult-hydroxychloroquine.html



I crouched on the pavement and asked Cohen, who is 76, how he was feeling. For the past two days, he had been taking hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. “It’s getting better,” Cohen said through his mask. He looked ashen but optimistic. His fever had fallen, and he had begun to regain his sense of taste. I noted that there was some debate about the efficacy of the treatment. “There’s no ‘believing’ or ‘not believing,’” Cohen replied. “We know it’s effective!”




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Others might have proceeded with more caution or perhaps waited to confirm these results with a larger, more rigorous trial. Raoult likes to think of himself as a doctor first, however, with a moral obligation to treat his patients that supersedes any desire to produce reliable data. “We’re not going to tell someone, ‘Listen, today’s not your lucky day, you’re getting the placebo, you’re going to be dying,’” he told me. He believes it to be unnecessary, in addition to being unethical, to run randomized controlled trials, or R.C.T.s, of treatments for deadly infectious diseases. If these have become the accepted standard in biomedical research, Raoult contends, it is only because they appeal to statisticians “who have never seen a patient.” He refers to these scientists disdainfully as “methodologists.”

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« Reply #34603 on: May 19, 2020, 09:33:52 AM »

Several prominent French doctors cautioned that the results would have to be confirmed and warned of possible side effects. The French health minister deemed the trial promising but called for more testing. Raoult had already begun assembling data for a larger study, but he dismissed the need for anything particularly vast or lengthy. Like other critics of the R.C.T., he likes to point out that a number of self-evidently useful developments in the realm of human health have never been validated by such rigorous tests. This observation has come to be known as the parachute paradigm: We tend to accept the claim that parachutes reduce injury among people who leap from airplanes, but this effect has never been proved in a randomized study that compares an experimental parachute group to an unlucky parachuteless control. “It’s like Didier says,” Drancourt told me. “If you don’t have something that’s visible in 10 patients, or 30, it’s useless. It’s not of any consequence.” An effective treatment for a potentially lethal infectious disease will be visible to the naked eye.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34604 on: May 19, 2020, 09:48:13 AM »

Thanks for confirming that science has not proven the efficacy of such drugs.  I knew you'd come around.
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