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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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bodiddley

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34740 on: May 20, 2020, 12:46:48 PM »

Yeah, another wacky conspiracy theory is that Bill Gates wants to microchip everyone.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34741 on: May 20, 2020, 12:48:42 PM »

GOP and followers are WARY of electorate.


(as it always has been - see Kennedy/Nixon and other races)



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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34743 on: May 20, 2020, 12:52:10 PM »

Simple methodology clouding minds.  If you let it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34744 on: May 20, 2020, 01:01:17 PM »

GOP and followers are WARY of electorate.


(as it always has been - see Kennedy/Nixon and other races)



https://www.facebook.com/1353459319/posts/10222442073744659/

Fucked


See Bush v Gore and Brook Brothers riot.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34745 on: May 20, 2020, 01:06:58 PM »

Simple methodology clouding minds.  If you let it.


Too late for you...


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« Reply #34746 on: May 20, 2020, 01:36:38 PM »

Mr President, Vice President Pence, members of the Cabinet and colleagues,

As I have listened to states and communities struggle with mental health issues that have arisen due to the virus, I wanted to ensure that governors yesterday heard these concerns from a medical perspective.  As my physician colleagues on the task force have been careful to rightly note, their perspective and advice centers on one aspect of the pandemic, virus containment.  However, even medically it is not the sole perspective.  I felt that it was important to offer the governors a different, albeit equally important medical perspective.  As such - I made the following remarks:

It is my privilege to serve as the Assistant Secretary for Mental Health and Substance Use, but today I really speak to you more as a psychiatrist, who also happens to hold a PHD in infectious disease epidemiology.  Never did I imagine the nation would be experiencing the coinciding of mental health issues and infectious disease that my training addressed.

The research literature is clear on the effects of quarantine and stay at home practices on mental health.  We know that the longer the duration of these orders, the greater the intensity of the mental health problems experienced.  We also know that these symptoms persist for years to come even once quarantine is lifted.  The data tell us that when the lives of adults, children and families are drastically changed for extended lengths of time - for many, anxiety, depression and stress disorders will become manifest and will persist.  These are real health conditions with potentially long lasting consequences.

To put all of this in perspective I believe it is important to point out that pre-pandemic we lose 120,000 lives per year to drug overdose and suicide.  How many more lives are we willing to sacrifice in the name of containing the virus?  When we look at strategies to reopen, I ask as a medical doctor that you take into account whole health, not just one narrow aspect of physical health.  We continually ask ourselves what the risks might be of reopening, but I ask what they might be of not reopening - or of reopening in such a restrictive way that American lives are not restored. 

Of course containing the effects of corona virus are critically important but so too is preventing suicide.  So too is keeping a person from being so terrified to ever leave their home.  So too is protecting the mental health of our nation's young people.

I ask you to remember that not every home is a safe home.  Not every individual can withstand the trauma of not seeing or interacting physically with loved ones.  Not every parent can survive the mental anguish of not being able to feed their children because of lost employment.  Not every child can exist in a healthy way without the structure and support of school.  We have to take a step back and recognize the other effects of our policies.  While we contain the virus, are we increasing the risk of suicide and drug overdose?  Are we creating a future of substance abuse and addiction for millions of additional Americans - and if we are doing these things, why have we decided collectively that this is OK?  We have worked so hard in states and communities across this country to combat epidemics like the opioids crisis.  Why are we willing to forget those efforts now, or deem them less important?

As a psychiatrist I would argue that a life lost to suicide is just as important as a life lost to corona virus.  A family who loses someone to drug overdose experiences the same grief as a family who loses one to corona virus.  Let us not forget that all American lives are precious.  Our citizens count on us to remember their health and safety in all aspects of life.  The preservation of America's health and the health of our citizens cannot be measured by only one metric.  Virus containment cannot be our only goal, no matter the cost to Americans. 

If we ignore the reality of the tremendous mental health strain we have put on our citizens - on the backdrop of an already over-burdened mental health care system, I am saddened but certain that the next major health crisis of our time will be that of mental and substance abuse disorders - and it is not far behind.  I urge you to factor this reality into your planning - and I thank you for the work you have done thus far - on behalf of the millions of Americans with mental and substance abuse disorders


-  Doctor Elinore McCance-Katz, Assistant HHS Secretary   May 19, 2020
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34747 on: May 20, 2020, 01:40:29 PM »

As a psychiatrist I would argue that a life lost to suicide is just as important as a life lost to corona virus.  A family who loses someone to drug overdose experiences the same grief as a family who loses one to corona virus.  Let us not forget that all American lives are precious.  Our citizens count on us to remember their health and safety in all aspects of life.  The preservation of America's health and the health of our citizens cannot be measured by only one metric.  Virus containment cannot be our only goal, no matter the cost to Americans.

-  Doctor Elinore McCance-Katz, Assistant HHS Secretary   May 19, 2020

Crocodile tears from an administration that was prepared to throw 30 Million Americans off of their health insurance.
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« Reply #34748 on: May 20, 2020, 01:48:54 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/20/trump-just-said-corrupt-part-out-loud/

Hi! 👋🏼 I also have a name, it’s Jocelyn Benson. And we sent applications, not ballots. Just like my GOP colleagues in Iowa, Georgia, Nebraska and West Virginia.

https://twitter.com/JocelynBenson/status/1263089382690631680
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« Reply #34749 on: May 20, 2020, 01:50:02 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/20/trump-just-said-corrupt-part-out-loud/

Whoever uses any part of any appropriation made by Congress for work relief, relief, or for increasing employment by providing loans and grants for public-works projects, or exercises or administers any authority conferred by any Appropriation Act for the purpose of interfering with, restraining, or coercing any individual in the exercise of his right to vote at any election, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/598
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« Reply #34750 on: May 20, 2020, 01:50:24 PM »

Crocodile tears from an administration that was prepared to throw 30 Million Americans off of their health insurance.


with options.....
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« Reply #34751 on: May 20, 2020, 02:06:43 PM »

Crocodile tears from an administration that was prepared to throw 30 Million Americans off of their health insurance.


with options.....

Bullshit.

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« Reply #34752 on: May 20, 2020, 02:15:32 PM »

As a psychiatrist I would argue that a life lost to suicide is just as important as a life lost to corona virus.  A family who loses someone to drug overdose experiences the same grief as a family who loses one to corona virus.  Let us not forget that all American lives are precious.  Our citizens count on us to remember their health and safety in all aspects of life.  The preservation of America's health and the health of our citizens cannot be measured by only one metric.  Virus containment cannot be our only goal, no matter the cost to Americans.

-  Doctor Elinore McCance-Katz, Assistant HHS Secretary   May 19, 2020

Crocodile tears from an administration that was prepared to throw 30 Million Americans off of their health insurance.
And is voth against extending the unemployment life line to the 30 m plus out of work Americans and in favor of cutting benefits to workers who do not want to risk their lives by going to work.
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« Reply #34753 on: May 20, 2020, 02:16:46 PM »

Well they're just lazy snowflakes.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #34754 on: May 20, 2020, 02:22:21 PM »

GOP and followers are WARY of electorate.


(as it always has been - see Kennedy/Nixon and other races)



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CAUTIOUS, CIRCUMSPECT, WARY, and CHARY all mean prudently watchful and discreet in the face of danger or risk.

CAUTIOUS implies the exercise of forethought usually prompted by fear of danger.  a cautious driver 

CIRCUMSPECT suggests less fear and stresses the surveying of all possible consequences before acting or deciding. circumspect in his business dealings

WARY emphasizes suspiciousness and alertness in watching for danger and cunning in escaping it.  keeps a wary eye on the competition 

CHARY implies a cautious reluctance to give, act, or speak freely. chary of signing papers without having read them first
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