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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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« Reply #35535 on: May 29, 2020, 11:53:58 AM »

What’s the rationale for not arresting the cop who murdered Mr. Floyd in broad daylight and camera?

They were arresting him for ALLEGEDLY passing a counterfeit twenty.

Eric Gardner was murdered  six years ago for selling loose cigarettes. His murderer was fired after more than five years.

You want peace in Minneapolis?

Make the arrest.

I cannot remotely fathom a justice system in which this brute is not immediately behind bars.   If he's not, then it's not a justice system in any real sense of the word.

It hasn't been a justice system in any real sense of the word for a long time, Barton, if it ever was.

It has been racist throughout its entire existence, with only the combination of ubiquitous videorecording capable cell phones and the internet exposing the rough edges of the police end. But the jail, court, prison, and probation portions of it remain mostly out of site, while at least as racist as the front line police officers. We continue locking people up for petty theft, while giving fines to banks and seldom arresting bankers/financiers for thefts a thousand or million times the size.

How many corrupt government officials, US Senators, or Reps go to prison and for how long compared to hoi polloi in percentages and $$?!

That's our ideal, but when was it last our exe1cution? Even if there was a time (which I doubt) in which our rich vs. poor or powerful vs. weak were equitably treated by our "justice" system within the world of whites, it was only[/] there.



I know, I know. None of that is news to you, but then how can you even think a phrase like, " If he's not, then it's not a justice system in any real sense of the word?"

If he is then there is a vestige of justice, but nothing systemic about it.
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« Reply #35536 on: May 29, 2020, 12:39:31 PM »

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« Reply #35537 on: May 29, 2020, 12:40:11 PM »

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"If these people were serious about restoring economic activity for the workers in need of a paycheck, rather than just for their own personal enjoyment, then they’d be begging to wear a mask so that those workers could return to their jobs as safely as possible. They’d be begging to stay six feet apart to show that Americans can be trusted to look out for each other."

~The Nation
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« Reply #35538 on: May 29, 2020, 12:46:53 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arrested/index.html

All you have to do is comply. Just be polite and you'll have no problem with police.

Believe that and I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.

Their credentials were visible. They were on air - if the state police had doubts, they could have turned on the broadcast to see themselves. They offered to move to wherever the police wanted them to move.

The police deny this... but it was all being recorded from the start.

Sure, the crew got release an hour later, but...
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« Reply #35539 on: May 29, 2020, 12:56:19 PM »

Coal consumption has dropped below renewables.

The last time coal was lower was before 1885.
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« Reply #35540 on: May 29, 2020, 12:57:50 PM »

What’s the rationale for not arresting the cop who murdered Mr. Floyd in broad daylight and camera?

They were arresting him for ALLEGEDLY passing a counterfeit twenty.

Eric Gardner was murdered  six years ago for selling loose cigarettes. His murderer was fired after more than five years.

You want peace in Minneapolis?

Make the arrest.

I cannot remotely fathom a justice system in which this brute is not immediately behind bars.   If he's not, then it's not a justice system in any real sense of the word.

It hasn't been a justice system in any real sense of the word for a long time, Barton, if it ever was.

It has been racist throughout its entire existence, with only the combination of ubiquitous videorecording capable cell phones and the internet exposing the rough edges of the police end. But the jail, court, prison, and probation portions of it remain mostly out of site, while at least as racist as the front line police officers. We continue locking people up for petty theft, while giving fines to banks and seldom arresting bankers/financiers for thefts a thousand or million times the size.

How many corrupt government officials, US Senators, or Reps go to prison and for how long compared to hoi polloi in percentages and $$?!

That's our ideal, but when was it last our exe1cution? Even if there was a time (which I doubt) in which our rich vs. poor or powerful vs. weak were equitably treated by our "justice" system within the world of whites, it was only[/] there.



I know, I know. None of that is news to you, but then how can you even think a phrase like, " If he's not, then it's not a justice system in any real sense of the word?"

If he is then there is a vestige of justice, but nothing systemic about it.

Very good post.

And it is impossible to read the "when the looting starts the shooting starts" reaction to Minnesota when contrasted with Charlottesville or the armed storming of state capitals as anything but the continuity of this racist attitude toward law enforcement.
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« Reply #35541 on: May 29, 2020, 01:00:38 PM »

"...when the looting starts, the shooting starts."
~President Donald Trump

also ~Governor George Wallace, and before him a racist sheriff.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/tech/trump-twitter-minneapolis/index.html

I am sure that Mr. Trump is bent out of shape by the limits imposed on that comment, too.

And... again, tell me how Mr. Trump is not inciting violence?!
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« Reply #35542 on: May 29, 2020, 01:02:36 PM »

And it is impossible to read the "when the looting starts the shooting starts" reaction to Minnesota when contrasted with Charlottesville or the armed storming of state capitals as anything but the continuity of this racist attitude toward law enforcement.

And I'm just going to highlight here because its worthwhile given that the story has already become how Twitter has reacted to the tweet...

This is the man elected to be President of the United States of America declaring that there will be extrajudicial killings of US citizens if they continue to protest.

Put that on the record.  And put on the record that I have yet to hear an objection to that from anyone in the "president's" party.
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« Reply #35543 on: May 29, 2020, 01:05:53 PM »

Russia has just doubled their previously reported COVID-19 deaths for the month of April.

The only surprise is that they did it, not that their numbers were low.

And it's likely that the numbers are still low.

But, Kid, I'm sure that it's just Putin inflating the death toll to make President Trump look bad.
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« Reply #35544 on: May 29, 2020, 01:27:48 PM »

If this is true, then it casts a totally different light on the matter, to me.

It makes me wonder if this was personal, rather than 'merely' police brutality.

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« Reply #35545 on: May 29, 2020, 01:32:24 PM »

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Remember back on May 12 when I told you about Dr. Deborah Birx's sharply worded e-mail about an administration screwup with the distribution of remdesivir, the antiviral drug that had shown promise in helping patients who were quite ill with COVID-19 recover faster. Well, now we know the behind-the-scenes details.

The Washington Post reports today that the first 607,000 vials of the valuable medication, donated by drugmaker Gilead Sciences, were sent to the wrong hospitals, to hospitals with no ICUs (and therefore no seriously ill patients), and to facilities that didn't have the refrigeration necessary to store it. So they had to send it back.

"The fact that we'd be so incompetent in our distribution of this that we'd … inefficiently distribute the one therapy we have is stunning," said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute. "How can we make that mistake? What are you working on that's more important than this?"
~Boston Globe's Fast Forward newsletter
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« Reply #35546 on: May 29, 2020, 01:40:22 PM »

Derek Chauvin has been taken into custody.
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« Reply #35547 on: May 29, 2020, 01:43:46 PM »

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"How can we make that mistake? What are you working on that's more important than this?"

Four months we've known about the threat COVID poses to the health and safety of Americans, and there has been no substantive action at the Federal level.  None.

Two days after twitter put an exclamation mark that linked to a fact check next to two of Trump's tweets promoting the disenfranchising of voters, there was an executive order ready to go which the "president" hastily signed.

Its clear where the priorities of this criminally negligent Administration lies.
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« Reply #35548 on: May 29, 2020, 01:45:36 PM »

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« Reply #35549 on: May 29, 2020, 01:46:45 PM »

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"How can we make that mistake? What are you working on that's more important than this?"

Four months we've known about the threat COVID poses to the health and safety of Americans, and there has been no substantive action at the Federal level.  None.

Two days after twitter put an exclamation mark that linked to a fact check next to two of Trump's tweets promoting the disenfranchising of voters, there was an executive order ready to go which the "president" hastily signed.

Its clear where the priorities of this criminally negligent Administration lies.

Yes, the speed of Trump's reaction on the tweet has not been lost on a bunch of people.

One wonders whether any of them are his supporters (or perhaps his wavering supporters).
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