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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bambu.]

Our dear leader on 1st amendment rights.

President Trump on Friday morning issued a thinly veiled threat to individuals who want to protest his campaign rally scheduled for Saturday evening in Tulsa, Okla., writing on Twitter:

“Any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes who are going to Oklahoma please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in New York, Seattle, or Minneapolis. It will be a much different scene!”

The fucking asshole wants to start a riot.

he's got a lot of climbing to do to reach "lowlife"

it might be nice if the Governor of OK or mayor of Tulsa re-affirmed 1st amendment rights of all citizens and vistiors to the The Farther Lands from the coasts.

Do they teach constitution 101 out there?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/us/juneteenth-2020.html#link-7cd30b1f

Someone has to make a stand somewhere...might as well be by him there.

[bambu.]

There are parts of the world where they can never build anything because they are always busy tearing everything down and fighting among themselves. We need to be smarter than that, and we need to be more civilized than that.

Salute,

Tony V.

Amen.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/05/11/republicans-are-wrong-side-history-and-everything-else

[facilitatorn]

Someone has to make a stand somewhere...might as well be by him there.

Trump stands on the growing pile of corpses of those who supported him.

Those dead crackers and their dead grandmas make trump feel bigger even than his shoe lifts.

They almost make him feel like he’s 6 feet tall again.

[Kam]

Of note too, I think that we should keep the statues of Columbus, etc, he was part of our history. Instead of removing statues of Columbus then go out and build your own statue of someone you admire from history. Instead of tearing down something, build something new.

Salute,

Tony V.

re: build your own statue

You have a wall of photos.  You take a new photo that you want up on that wall.  A photo must come down.  You take down the one that is no longer relevant.

[kiidcarter8]

Nice level of sanity shown by Paul Howard in declaring (as if he needed to) that the Rolfe-Brooks case does not rise to the level of death penalty.

MSNBC and CNN anchors please do take note.

[barton]

Nice work bart.

I thought it was easy to dance to and I'll give a solid 8.

Have to point out I was merely riffing off your clever lyrics.   And thank you.   

Re Tulsa - yes,  Trump is riot mongering.  For sure,  that form of narcissism thrives on watching people get hurt.   

[barton]

Birtherism was a statement of values, a way to express allegiance to a particular notion of American identity, one that became the central theme of the Trump campaign itself: To Make America Great Again, to turn back the clock to an era where white political and cultural hegemony was unthreatened by black people, by immigrants, by people of a different faith. By people like Barack Obama. The calls to disavow birtherism missed the point: Trump’s entire campaign was birtherism.

Trump won the Republican primary, and united the party, in part because his run was focused on the psychic wound of the first black presidency.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/birtherism-and-trump/610978/

Excellent piece on how the conservative media latches onto someone's fantasy and then truthifies it by endless repetition.  It's scary how well that psychological technique works.  On adults.  Or what you might once have thought were adults.

Good stuff.  Thanks

So you agree?   It's good stuff as in you understand and value the writer's perspective.?

Expand a little?

[facilitatorn]

http://youtu.be/Ylv1LyVWc-c

The late, great Richard Pryor explains trumpism and the GOP, how American capitalism needs American racism to continue on its murderous rampage.

[barton]

Of note too, I think that we should keep the statues of Columbus, etc, he was part of our history. Instead of removing statues of Columbus then go out and build your own statue of someone you admire from history. Instead of tearing down something, build something new.

Salute,

Tony V.

re: build your own statue

You have a wall of photos.  You take a new photo that you want up on that wall.  A photo must come down.  You take down the one that is no longer relevant.

Yep.   I was going to point out there are only so many town squares.

[barton]

Nice level of sanity shown by Paul Howard in declaring (as if he needed to) that the Rolfe-Brooks case does not rise to the level of death penalty.

MSNBC and CNN anchors please do take note.

Direct quote,  please.   Who said the shooting called for the DP?

[kiidcarter8]

That Hillary started birtherism - and that Romney praised and thanked Trump?

Sure - I agree that occurred.

[kiidcarter8]

Nice level of sanity shown by Paul Howard in declaring (as if he needed to) that the Rolfe-Brooks case does not rise to the level of death penalty.

MSNBC and CNN anchors please do take note.

Direct quote,  please.   Who said the shooting called for the DP?

fuck off

[barton]

Not every day a debate is won so easily.   So you have no actual quotes or other evidence that a news anchor was saying the DP was called for.    So it's a Strawman you just made up to make certain press organizations sound foolish.   

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/politics/uss-roosevelt-investigation/index.html