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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Echo4]

Brought to you by the people who brought you Brexit:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/football/liverpool-fans-police-criticize-gathering-anfield-title-win-spt-intl/index.html

[Echo4]

Meanwhile, I was appalled that the Kentucky Derby was planning on having people attend - 40,000 of them - in September.

Then I learned that the Indy 500 is going ahead in August, planning on 175,000 attendees.

Yes, in the first case it is reduced by 75% and by ~50% in the second.

But that's seating not milling and grouping. And 6 feet apart is not even remotely enough in cheering groups! Yes, outside is better than inside, but for groups of that size it is still not good.

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The right to assemble has nothing to do with the wisdom to not assemble.

Its also not even true.  State governments can and are limiting the size of group assembly.  Whatever the purpose.

The smirk on his face while mansplaining the Constitution to the reporter was telling, too.  Like "Yeah, we want people to be able to participate in the political process; our people.  If the Democrats want to follow the guidelines we just spent an hour laying out and recommending for everyone else that is their choice."

[Echo4]

https://www.capitalgazette.com/coronavirus/ac-cn-tim-walters-coronavirus-20200626-5l3epvbptng4dn4ys5btb5zika-story.html

Co-founder of ReOpen Maryland says he has COVID-19, but won’t help contact tracing efforts

He'd fit right in here with Kid and Ward.

[Kam]

President Trump has not been seen in public wearing a mask, and has dismissed suggestions he should wear one. He has also suggested they could be counterproductive.

“They put their finger on the mask, and they take them off, and then they start touching their eyes and touching their nose and their mouth,” Trump told the Wall Street Journal last week. “And then they don’t know how they caught it?”---

Um, if the virus is on a person's mask, if they were maskless, they would have breathed in the virus and been infected.  So it's not counterproductive, Trump's actually agreeing masks can help prevent someone from becoming infected by the virus.

And if you've worn a mask and taken it off you know that you do not put your fingers directly on the mask.  You take it off by the ear loops.  Yes, sometimes I adjust my mask while it's on which is why i've also carried an 2 ounce alcohol based hand sanitizer spray in my pocket.   Anytime I touch ANYTHING with my fingers I then spray the hand sanitizer on them.

[bambu.]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/opinion/black-lives-matter-injustice.html

Presidential Reconstruction under Andrew Johnson, a Democrat, would immediately undermine any means to this end, as he restored defeated Confederates to citizenship and gave them free rein to impose laws, like the Black Codes, which sought to reestablish the economic and social conditions of slavery.
But Republicans in Congress were eventually able to wrest control of Reconstruction from the administration, and just as importantly, black Americans were actively taking steps to secure their political freedom against white reactionary opposition.
Working through the Union Army, postwar Union Leagues and the Republican Party, freed and free blacks worked toward a common goal of political equality. And once they secured something like it, they set out to try as much as possible to affect that economic transformation.

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Well there you go.

[Kam]

There what goes?

[oilcan]

Jerzy Kozinski,  you nailed it.

At the Values Voter Summit last October, Trump made a vague appeal to the need for continuity, comparing his first-term efforts to a new plant.

“You seed the plant, you put that plant in, but those roots have to gain,” he said. “That's why we need the next four years. We have to have — those roots, they have to grab on. That's why we need them."   

(from Phil Bump column today,    So what does Trump want to do with a second term, anyway? )

"Being There" is worth rereading.  Or reading for the first time.   It really is like Kozinski had some sort of precognitive powers.

[bodiddley]

Experts have now forecast that there will be 179,106 COVID-19 deaths in the United States by Oct. 1. But a universal mask-wearing order in the US could save as many as 33,000 lives.

The University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation released a model Wednesday with a range of 159,497 to 213,715 deaths nationwide.

Wearing a mask “is extremely low-cost, and, for the individual, provides a 1/3 — as high as one half — reduction in the risk of transmission,” he said in a video press release. “But at the community level, can save an extraordinary number of lives.”

[bodiddley]

Dr. Anthony Fauci said that "everybody should wear a mask when out in public."
"It should not be a political issue," he added. "It is purely a public health issue. Forget the politics, look at the data."

Rubio told reporters after a GOP lunch with Vice President Pence. "everyone should just wear a damn mask

[bambu.]

There what goes?

The Republican Party...Saviour of Black Ametica.

[kiidcarter8]

This was a day or two ago.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/25/donald-trump-white-house-coronavirus-response-acosta-dnt-tsr-vpx.cnn

What I want to know is (a) why the media is not being required to wear masks and (b) what kind of an ass goes off on the reporter for not wearing a mask or social distancing while he is not wearing a mask himself and HE gets to dictate where the reporter stands to start with?!

Acosta is a prick.  No further explanation needed.

[kiidcarter8]

Meanwhile, I was appalled that the Kentucky Derby was planning on having people attend - 40,000 of them - in September.

Then I learned that the Indy 500 is going ahead in August, planning on 175,000 attendees.

Yes, in the first case it is reduced by 75% and by ~50% in the second.

But that's seating not milling and grouping. And 6 feet apart is not even remotely enough in cheering groups! Yes, outside is better than inside, but for groups of that size it is still not good.

Shame on them.

Grandmas will die.

[Kam]

There what goes?

The Republican Party...Saviour of Black Ametica.

You need to remember (or maybe you didn't know) that the Democratic ad the Republican parties underwent a huge change in the 1960s.  The voters who made up the Democratic party prior to the Civil Rights act being passed in 1964 included a majority of southern whites.  As I posted a few days ago in this forum, for nearly 100 years after the civil war African-Americans used to support the Republican party and Southern Whites used to vote Democratic.  After passage of the civil rights act those votings blocs shifted.

You shouldn't mistake the Republican abolitionist party of the civil war era with today's republican party.  The two parties basically swapped uniforms.  Today's Democrats can trace their party lineage to the Pre-Civil Rights act Republican party.  I'm assuming you did not know this. 

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Trump Administration has known about this since March:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

An operation to incentivize the killing of American and other NATO troops would be a significant and provocative escalation of what American and Afghan officials have said is Russian support for the Taliban, and it would be the first time the Russian spy unit was known to have orchestrated attacks on Western troops.

Any involvement with the Taliban that resulted in the deaths of American troops would also be a huge escalation of Russia’s so-called hybrid war against the United States, a strategy of destabilizing adversaries through a combination of such tactics as cyberattacks, the spread of fake news and covert and deniable military operations.

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As of this moment, Trump has not authorized a single response.  Not one.  Not even a diplomatic complaint.

And two months after he was briefed on this, it apparently didn't come up in a call the two had, and Trump said he wanted to invite Putin to rejoin the G7.

This is the tough guy Trumpists are in love with...

He is a traitor.