Swan started with COVID-19. "Those people that really understand it," Trump said, "they said it's incredible the job that we've done." "Who says that?" Swan asked, but Trump had moved on. "I think it's under control," Trump said later. "How?" Swan asked. "A thousand Americans are dying a day." "They are dying, that's true," Trump conceded. "And it is what it is."
There is the new campaign slogan: "They are dying, that's true. It is what it is."